www.rateyourmusic.com C/D?

I'm still haunted by a review by an anime (which I can't find now) that began with something like, "it's 2100 and I'm a fembot with a perfect bubble butt..." and only went downhill from there. the deviantart containment wall is in urgent need of repair.

Part of the thing that bothers me with these guys is that they're often into lots of surprisingly great stuff but then they love all these shitty cartoons too.

also most of them are chauvinist dicks iirc

xpost - I probably don't have a right to complain about that because I have "good"/"obscure" taste in music but somewhat vanilla taste in music and tv. but I guess I have enough self awareness to keep my questionable tastes to myself (and I'm over the age of 19, unlike a lot of those anime bros)

it's weird that those users are downrating dreampop albums when Loveless and Souvlaki and Long Season are mainstays in the /mu/ canon. I didn't think it was typical for 4chan types to dump on "esoteric" indie stuff

I like some godawful crap too but I wouldn't put it in my avatar.

As much as I agree that the reviews on this site are super garbage, this one of Sun Ra's Atlantis actually made me lol today:

Side A: Welcome to Atlantis! Listen to the music of our people!

Side B: Fuck, we're sinking! You chose a bad day for visiting us.

How does any other site with reviews from the public compare? Metal archives? Prog archives? I don't know many others.

the reviews on prog archives tend to be super wordy and often use timestamps to just describe what's happening in the music in the most literal way

the reviews on metal archives tend mainly to be 90% and up or 30% and under iirc

your average metal archives review is about as good as your average rym review, which is to say bad

I'd imagine many of those reviews are on both sites.

democracy sucks eh

All Music, Album of the Year, and Metacritic all have user reviews. About the quality you'd expect. Probably more boring than RYM reviews.

and yet still more interesting and varied than the critics'

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professional music criticism in 2020 is a circled-wagon hellscape of desperate assent and absolute fealty to the pitchfork-industrial canon

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RYM is a discourse, a place of argument, of back-and-forth

I think we need a 'rolling 2020 music-related challops thread'. Not being sarcastic btw.

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the critics do not speak for me and they are not my people

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rym is my people

pfork didn't start reviewing taylor swift albums until 2017 and she's always gotten good reviews, every time you bring up the pitchfork industrial complex you sound like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about

especially in comparison to the uhhh rampant misogyny on rym

"rym is my people"

the rym katie dey score is a 75

i wasn't thinking so much of the score as the 117 (and counting) ratings

oh damn the ultimate metric of engagement

you play yourself by looking at metacritic too

it's just nice to know that someone else cares about the music i care about

obv i know metacritic is far from exhaustive i never visit it usually, just did today to let off steam and make my wack point ok lol

and ftr i liked 'lover' more than i thought i would, i gave it 3/5. it's entirely possible that if the farflung cocteau twins comparisons hold water i cd give taytay another 3/5 this time around

i just don't like RYM getting dissed when it is very often the only avenue for finding out about great music

There are a lot of RYM people who will give anything Taylor Swift releases a 0.5 without bothering to listen to it.

they're obviously awful cunts and that is the price of democracy

taytay stan policy is to return in kind to kanye anyway iirc ;)

xp under my benevolent rule they will be sent to the salt mines for re-education

I remember once messaging some dude who gave an album that I was really looking forward to a 0.5 like 2 months before it was released and I asked him, "so uh, you've heard this?" and he was like "nah I just really hate these guys, can't explain why"

i just don't like RYM getting dissed when it is very often the only avenue for finding out about great music

Adverse reactions tend to focus on the community, which I haven't really engaged with so far beyond adding binge-prone RYMers whose tastes closely mirror my own and reading the occasional quality review by specific user(s) such as [redacted].

and look, yes I know it's metacritic, but 'the critics' have Fetch The Bolt Cutters as AOTYSF with a 98 average rating

RYM also has it as AOTYSF, but at a healthy and debate-laden 76 lol

... man, i've been on rym, nothing on there resembles "debate"

this is marketplace of ideas horseshit you're purveying

yeah there's lots of bad-faith idiotic badmouthing, sure, but there are also a few thoughtful critiques, i'm willing to sift through for them

Calling this "Progressive Pop" is a huge disrespect to Steven Wilson.

^lmao yeah i know, i know

Aside from a few obnoxious reviews I generally find them serviceable. I don't demand huge insights or great writing, I just generally want to know what albums to get. I tend to prefer short and to the point reviews.

As many others have said, the greatest value tends to be the lists and charts.

settled on a 7/10 for new taytay. her metacritic average is now like 94 ;)

yeah there's lots of bad-faith idiotic badmouthing, sure, but there are also a few thoughtful critiques, i'm willing to sift through for them

― imago

i mean, i've pointed this out before, but not all of us have the same luxuries.

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I don't care about the reviews but I will often look to the charts for the best album of the year and listen to things that are highly rated that I never heard before.

I discovered IDLES that way when they released Brutalism which subsequently became one of my favorite albums and I also love the band.

not all of us have the same luxuries

I get this, and often think about it when I browse less palatable websites, but it seems to me that RYM is friendlier to trans artists than most, at least if we go by the charts. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

and yet still more interesting and varied than the critics'

― imago

lj i mean this is really weird. i mean, you know a lot of people who post here are or were professional critics, right? i mean, i've read a lot of stuff written by folks who post here. a lot of it is really good. i mean, certainly a lot better and valuable writing than most of what passes for criticism on rym. complaining about "critical hegemony" makes about as much sense to me as complaining about the hegemony of the intersectional left. "see, look at how much people like this death grips album", and it's a sea of diametrically opposed fandoms screaming at each other, go to a shoutbox for any recently released woman artist and it probably isn't there because the mods couldn't keep track of the misogyny - i mean, is that what you mean by "interesting" and "varied"? rym is an interesting resource, a fun place to find new music, there are a couple of people there i like. hell, i went to the message forums there today, just to check them out, and of course they're unutterably awful, and i still found my way to this fucking amazing khan bootleg i didn't know existed within five minutes. that doesn't make the rym forums "my people". i don't blame pitchfork for not writing enough articles about khan bootlegs, i don't think their failure to so much as mention khan bootlegs represents some hideous failure of what you charmingly call the "pitchfork-industrial complex".

your continuing high dudgeon about pitchfork, in goddamn 2020, in favor of a site whose musical standards are mostly informed by /mu/ and the fantano-industrial complex, frankly baffles me.

I get this, and often think about it when I browse less palatable websites, but it seems to me that RYM is friendlier to trans artists than most, at least if we go by the charts. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

― pomenitul

yeah seriously i am still on rym all the fucking time, don't get me wrong

Now I'm tempted to poll the Pitchfork-industrial complex vs. the Fantano-industrial complex.

which has the better IPA recommendations?

this fucking amazing khan bootleg

King, or Nusrat Fateh Ali?

I was thinking the Steve Hillage band

Now I'm tempted to poll the Pitchfork-industrial complex vs. the Fantano-industrial complex.

― pomenitul, Friday, July 24, 2020 6:52 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i insist that you do not turn ilx into rym