“medillia of the gray skies” is a killer bside too
― brimstead, Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
Ah, on the tonite tonite EP as brad mentioned
― brimstead, Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
OK, I'm adding "Ruby" into my MCIS playlist (I can haz cred now?)
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW7qkjCiKXo
― Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Friday, 18 September 2020 09:59 (four years ago) link
Lol so he ditched the "Shiny and Oh So Bright" continuing volume conceit already, even though he's keeping the similar artwork?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
that would be extremely in character of him, cf. oceania being a part of "teargarden by kaleidyscope"; the day for night project
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link
oh yeah, this is one artist that needs to stop announcing grand plans
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 September 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
The one thing Gerard Way is always going to have over Billy: when the former comes up with ideas for grand schemes he actually DOES make comic books and TV series out of them.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
Who are some other artists who reached dazzling, dizzying artistic heights with a singular, indelible sound for a 3-4 year period... and then fell way, way, way, all the way down but kept on trucking (and somehow garnering attention) for literal decades, like Billy Corgan? (Bonus points if they, too, also became reactionary lunatics in the process, too.)
― Soundslike, Friday, 18 September 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
Van Morrison?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link
the working title for the new album was Shiny and Oh So Bright vol. 2 & 3 but completely unsurprising that billy got bored of that already
― ufo, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link
lots of mid/late 70s and 80s van rules hard
― brimstead, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link
Van Morrison had one last massive hit in the late 80’s. Will Corgan have a “Maria” in him?
Corgan’s career trajectory in the 21st century does fascinate me, though. His unbelievable hubris and ability to make an ass out of himself constantly is awe-inspiring
― beamish13, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
i used to be a little boy
― origami condom (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 September 2020 05:23 (four years ago) link
and two more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFYaUYce8jY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-yos6keKvQ
― Nourry, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
"wrath" is excellent imo but as established in this thread i'm a fan of synth-pop bc especially when the hooks sit right ("death from above," which is zeitgeist-era, is one of my favorite songs he's written in the last two decades)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link
i should adjust my language for other ppl's expectations: "wrath" is good for sp mk 2
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 25 September 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
Underwhelmed by these new tracks.
More enthusiastically, there's a new Jimmy Chamberlin Complex album/ep 'Honor' out and it sounds great.
― brain (krakow), Saturday, 26 September 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link
Dare I say that 'Anno Santana' is probably the first SP song (Zwan excluded) in 20 years that sounds really good? I dareth.
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 16 October 2020 09:06 (three years ago) link
I haven't heard that one yet, time to check it out!
Full tracklist floating about. I can't be the only one slightly disappointed to see a 72 minute Pumpkins record without a 9 or 10 minutes plus epic anywhere. Although I'm sure my hopes for any good "Silverfuck" style jam are long gone.
1. "The Colour of Love" 4:242. "Confessions of a Dopamine Addict" 3:143. "Cyr" 4:034. "Dulcet in E" 3:225. "Wrath" 3:466. "Ramona" 3:487. "Anno Satana" 3:508. "Birch Grove" 3:179. "Wyttch" 3:4410. "Starrcraft" 4:1011. "Purple Blood" 3:1912. "Save Your Tears" 3:3113. "Telegenix" 3:2314. "Black Forest, Black Hills" 4:4215. "Adrennalynne" 3:4216. "Haunted" 3:1117. "The Hidden Sun" 3:2418. "Schaudenfreud" 3:0219. "Tyger, Tyger" 2:5020. "Minerva" 3:33
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 October 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
xpost
I think it's a bit meh. Oceania had a few really great songs, so I wouldn't say it's been a totally fallow 2 decades. (I also thought "Tarantula" was killer at the time, though my enthusiasm has waned over the years.)
― Sam Weller, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
yeah those very uniform track lengths are weirdly dispiriting xp
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 16 October 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
"adrennalynne" and "wyttch" lmao
i maintain that shiny & oh so bright is the only time they've occasionally sounded pretty good post-reunion
― ufo, Friday, 16 October 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
Mellon Collie was released 25 years ago today! Happy birthday. I was 13 and it opened up a cool world for me.
Billy announced a few things in a video yesterday:1. He and Jimmy are in the studio working on a 33-song "sequel to Mellon Collie and Machina," the third in the "trilogy of stories involving a single character [ie, Zero, Glass, and now a third]". It's an "opus", "rock opera", etc. 2. Currently mixing Machina. Tracklist (minus extra cuts?) is "in the neighborhood of 50 to 51 songs".3. They had planned to announce a "MCIS-themed" arena tour -- "a night built around that period of music...with a narrative arc...celebration of that time period...something with a conceptual base." Plan is to do that when possible.4. Cyr (20 songs) is the next album, then the MCIS-Machina sequel, then the third Shiny album (10 songs) after that.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 23 October 2020 07:58 (three years ago) link
the mellon collie/machina sequel album will absolutely not come out in anything resembling the form described. either he'll completely scrap it or repurpose whatever they're currently working on into a completely different project before too long
also "the third shiny album"? what's the second? what turned into cyr was originally supposed to be volumes 2 & 3 but i figured he'd just completely given up on whatever the concept was there as usual
― ufo, Friday, 23 October 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link
also the machina/machina ii combined reissue being ~50 tracks just for the album itself sounds nightmarish lmao. not that i have any confidence that'll finally come out either. how long has it been in the works now?
― ufo, Friday, 23 October 2020 08:10 (three years ago) link
Fwiw he did describe Cyr as the 2nd part of the Shiny series.
― Sam Weller, Friday, 23 October 2020 08:12 (three years ago) link
It's an "opus", "rock opera", etc.
Love the "etc." here :)
I was sure to be the first in my local record store early morning to pick up MCIS. It came out on the 23rd but my local started selling it at Saturday the 21st already. Spotify's 'we're dumping the album here on Friday' just doesn't compare to the trve Release Day of yore!
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 October 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link
if they’re mixing it i’ll bet the machina reissue comes out. the more songs the better imo
rest of those projects sound like billy’s usual bullshit
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link
hoping that someone accidentally lost the masters for "heavy metal machine"
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 23 October 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NcVNOWjv1E
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
(this album's gonna be so weird, i don't really get where bc's going with any of it)
("wyttch" sounds kinda cool anyway)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
I keep forgetting we still have another full month before this thing comes out. I am really excited for the Machina era stuff, less hopeful about another massive rock opera being any good.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
oh shit, i just realized, "wyttch" is totally bc's attempt at writing a blue öyster cult song. pretty good!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcMR8JXnYgw
this is probably the song from the new record that's easiest to ridicule, it's zwan-esque in mood, but i... fucking love it. my favorite song bc's written in ages. the chorus is perfect
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
the whole first half of the record is basically out now, and i'm finding myself... really liking it? ugh lmao being a smashing pumpkins fan in 2020 i clown myself
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
yeah i feel stupid about it but i totally love this legit followup to thefutureembrace
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
lmao i fucking love this record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
chorus of "starrcraft" reminds me of the anniversary
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
holy shit "save your tears" is the best pumpkins song i've heard since machina
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I think Weezer and SP might have similar post peak hit miss ratios
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 27 November 2020 01:56 (three years ago) link
idk i think weezer's white album is actually pretty comparable to their peak material, while sp have never gotten that close to their own higher peak.
― ufo, Friday, 27 November 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
ugh lmao being a smashing pumpkins fan in 2020 i clown myself― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)
i feel exactly the same. still have to hear the new one, is it any good? 'shiny and oh so bright' didn't win me over, but i really enjoyed corgan's cotillions, surprisingly.
― Nourry, Friday, 27 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link
its way too long, it needs jimmy drums, but its... pretty good
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 27 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
i thought jimmy was on this one
― ufo, Friday, 27 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link
I like the background vox and harmonies on this one, surprisingly
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 27 November 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
i'm sure he's on it but you would never know.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 27 November 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
jimmy played all the drums on the record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link
the record is def too long but i am so thrilled i don’t actively dislike any of these songs. they’re also all stuck in my head constantly :(
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link