50 Best Albums of All Time According to Rolling Stone's BRAND NEW, 100% Revamped Top 500

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there's not an obvious Kind of Blue/Legend/Indestructible Beat* type token pick for Brazil

i think there is and it's Os Mutantes' self titled

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

or Africa Brasil. But every list *should* have Africa Brasil in it

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

I got to Pithoprakta first. There are definitely some banging sounds, thread has delivered

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

I'm all for focusing on Brazil but it's hardly the only country with a rich musical tradition that got the short end of the stick here.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

'californication' was, in 2003, merely the 401st best album ever recorded; now it's 286th

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

Agreed! I got sick of scrolling but Japan was certainly underrepresented. Lots of Europe too

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

'californication' was, in 2003, merely the 401st best album ever recorded; now it's 286th

― mookieproof, Tuesday, September 22, 2020 3:43 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is directly attributable to the growing influence of psychic spies from china that try to steal your mind's elation

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

lol

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

1. Yes, 'Close to the Edge'
2. ZEPPELIN IV
3. Pink Floyd, 'Dark Side of the Moon'

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

^ what the liberal elite is trying to suppress

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

I got to Pithoprakta first. There are definitely some banging sounds, thread has delivered

<3

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

It's a good 'un.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

_Jonchaies_ absolutely bangs.


Quite true. Am I having a heart attack though?

rob, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

I should hope not!

Try this as well for some literal banging:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCVx_XwRaRU

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

No Pink Floyd in the top 50 is just criminal imo.

― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, September 22, 2020 10:14 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this does not rule

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

17. Kanye West, 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy'

not even a top 5 kanye west record

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

They didn't even put Legend at #420

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

A harry styles album from last year two spots above “here my dear” is one of those moments where I’m like ... hmm poptimism did go too far after all

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

Even putting aside the list I felt so cheated by that Harry Styles album. People were hyping it up like “he’s put a modern spin on glam and Fleetwood Mac and hall and oates” and it sounded like maroon 5 https://t.co/jtgntcruLF

— Dee Beare (@MadBeare) September 22, 2020

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

music, as a whole, is very disappointing it seems.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

and that's why i give music...2.5 stars

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/619258069059375104/IA50xUAO.jpg

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

man, that thing is really old home week… folks that ain't worked there in a long time or for them in a freelancing capacity in a long time showing up to shower hosannas, not to mention some who swore to never have anything to do with the mag ever again…

It can't help but be super-conservative, but I contributed to every single list they did from 2000-2004, and I am confident that the people who work there now and the longtime freelancers, all of whom do not consider themselves conservative one whit, are proud as fuck that this thing was produced without a thought to what Jann wenner would or would not like.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

awesome, too bad it still comes off as list made by a bunch of narcs.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

ABBA The Definitive Collection?? What the fuck even *is* that?? There's like, even a 33/3rd book about ‘Gold’. That’s hilarious I’m sorry. I mean they should have gone with Arrival anyway obvs.

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link

*on rooftop of Rolling Stone’s NYC offices*

staff: “so this list is ancient and has bald ponytail vibes”

Dave Fricke: “The 500 does not change. The 500 was written in blood. You bump Sgt. Pepper and you’re gonna enter a fucked up black hole where I can’t help you anymore”

— Ryley walker (@ryleywalker) September 22, 2020

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

sock solipsist (pomenitul) at 3:18 22 Sep 20

At least it's not Zaireeka

I hate the Flaming Lips now, but I got stoned w some dudes and we did the thing with 4 cd boomboxes in four corners of an apartment and it was absolutely amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

Just assume I'm jealous (which I kind of am, even though weed has never been my jam).

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

I contributed to the list and did my best to fuck it up

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link

^Miranda?

Scam Likely (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

Bad list, needs more Ween.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

lol at putting a greatest hits album in yr top 50

Wish there were many. And Neil Young.

clemenza, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

I can get behind #1 & 2 as being the pinnacles of popular music.

I think Stevie Wonder, the Beatles, Prince, Dylan, Michael Jackson and Springsteen all had better albums than the ones that got the most votes. (All great albums to be fair.)

Greatest hits shouldn't count, especially Legend which I would put behind Bob Marley & the Wailers' first three Island albums alone.

Miles Davis's Kind of Blue feels like a worthless token addition. If anything, it deserves to be in the top 5, but not without many other jazz albums in the top 50. I guess ultimately it's too tricky to include jazz in polls like this - I think most listeners tend to strongly favor one or the other, and the results in this case isn't necessarily the best jazz, it's just what's known to people who don't spend as much time listening to it.

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy already seemed like the solid consensus pick for Kanye's best album, but The College Dropout remains my favorite.

And someone who actually went through the whole list pointed out that Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica was nowhere to be found, much less in the upper echelons where it belongs.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

YES. Trout Mask Replica is the first thing I look for when trying to determine whether a massive list of classic albums is bullshit or not.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

I hate the Flaming Lips now, but I got stoned w some dudes and we did the thing with 4 cd boomboxes in four corners of an apartment and it was absolutely amazing

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, September 22, 2020 6:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm on record saying that Transmissions from the Satellite Heart is the only legitimately good Flaming Lips album but I would also like to go on record saying that everyone should have the full Zaireeka experience just once in their lives because it's a pretty great experience (if not such a great album qua album).

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

Greatest hits shouldn't count

This makes no sense to me. It's one of the long-standing limitations of these lists, and I thought that maybe by now it was a thing of the past. It essentially rules out the likes of Dionne Warwick, the Shirelles, the Spinners, Bo Diddley, many '60s Motown artists, etc. (Everyone I've named is black...there are white artists from that era too who are also much better served by compilations--Gene Pitney, the Lovin' Spoonful, the Rascals--but key black pop artists from the early '60s are especially ignored.)

An album is an album is an album.

clemenza, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

i would actually love to hang out with four friends and four boomboxes and smoke mad weed and listen to zaireeka rn

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

The dumping of Trout Mask Replica from the RS canon is bizarre

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

And someone who actually went through the whole list pointed out that Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica was nowhere to be found, much less in the upper echelons where it belongs.

Trout Mask Replica is Beefheart's, like, third worst album. A vote for Doc at the Radar Station, Ice Cream for Crow, Lick My Decals Off, Baby or Bat Chain Puller (the real version, not the Shiny Beast version) would be reasonable, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

The day one of these listmakers has the courage to include One Kiss Can Lead to Another is the day they finally have my undivided attention.

The 2012 list actually had something called The Best of the Girl Groups, Volumes 1 and 2 at #422 - though it's gone now. (They could have subbed in One Kiss... back then, if they wanted to!)

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link

Man, I like Shuggie's Inspiration Information more than What's Going On and it didn't even crack the Top 500.

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

Is no one else as fascinated by the R.E.M. thing as I am? There was a time when Murmur would have been in every RS critic’s Top 20, no?

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

The fact there's no mention of Louis Armstrong whatsoever is also a joke. There are numerous comps on that list by artists whose best work came before the advent of albums. So where's Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, or Complete Hot Fives and Sevens? Those collections are superb and document the birth of pop music — not just jazz — as we now know it.

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

REM's erasure from the canon is mos def bizarre. It's been long documented that the yoot of today ain't feelin' their vibes. I keep thinking we're coming back around to a time where their brand of abstract sincerity will once again become the heart music (like, christ, maybe the days of pandemic hardship?) but it doesn't seem like it's happening.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

xpost RS lists are largely unconcerned with anything that happened pre-1960s, as I'd think would be wholly apparent by now.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

fwiw I think this one is better than RYM or AcclaimedMusic's lists

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

Are you sure bc RYM had more King Crimson

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile, Abbey Road isn’t even the best album with that cover... amirite??

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

Zero Nas albums
Zero Brandy albums

very weird

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy already seemed like the solid consensus pick for Kanye's best album, but The College Dropout remains my favorite.

― birdistheword, Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:34 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think Late Registration is the consensus of like, rap fans who don't live on RYM/Reddit

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

I would enjoy a Rolling Stone Top 500 that was created by reviewing the play history of all the contributors' electronic devices and streaming services and assigning each album a point score based on the frequency that tracks from it appear (and maybe bonus points each time an album was played in its entirety). Then rank the albums by total points scored.

Obviously the Joshua Tree would be #1 but I can't say what spots 2-500 would look like!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link


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