50 Best Albums of All Time According to Rolling Stone's BRAND NEW, 100% Revamped Top 500

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I like Kid A more than OK Computer and at the same time recognize it ranking higher is corniness of the highest order.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

ODB never ran for president.

as if *being* big baby jesus isn't better than merely running for president

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

yeah, Sharon Batts and PowerSource wrote their letter to Jesus, not the President

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

I vote for "I Can't Wait" as the next nat'l anthem, easily.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

yo yo MIami

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

Was just reading the list in chronological order... noticed a few cool selections I wouldn’t have necessarily expected, like The Raincoats and Fever to Tell.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

is Marley's Legend big anywhere besides America? just echoing the lol at a greatest hits album being on here

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

Wait, why is that corny? It's their best imo. xp re Kid A

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

Kid A was my first midnight release purchase ever

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

OK Computer is unironically the best album of all time and nothing anyone says or does will ever change that.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link

Turning Chopin's Em Prelude into an anthem for Romeo and Juliet is kind of great but also supremely corny.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

Ha, as if I knew that when I picked it up at the age of 12.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

OMG, this whole time I've been reading "Legend" and thinking "Exodus" and wondering what people were getting upset about.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

They both deserve a spot on a Pepper-centred list anyway.xp

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

Willa Cather should be better represented imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

before COVID went to a karaoke night where someone sang "Paranoid Android". was very confused. I understand "Karma Police", as that's very catchy and short, but ffs, as much as I love P.A. (and I do), it was awkward and lame.

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

It's not even that Kanye is such an egregious inclusion but that MYBDTF in particular is (as I said at the time) TL;DR: the Album and thusly too bloated and unedited to qualify for such a high placement imo.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

To me, "Rumours" moving ahead of "London Calling" is perhaps the shift that really crystallizes the generational passing of the torch, from Gen X to Millennials, in terms of music audience taste.

o. nate, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

My ballot!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

"so appalled
Spaulding...ball"

"I put the pussy in the sarcophagus"

"yeezy upholstered my pussy"

vs

"Raw I'ma give it to ya, with no trivia
Raw like cocaine straight from Bolivia
My hip-hop will rock and shock the nation
Like the Emancipation Proclamation
Weak MC's approach with slang that's dead
You might as well run into the wall and bang your head
I'm pushin' force, my force your doubtin'
I'm makin' devils cower to the Caucus Mountains"

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

xxposts

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

props for the Supreme Clientele vote

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

Alfred, your ballot is much better and more fascinating but, lol, let's face it...you never stood a chance.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

before COVID went to a karaoke night where someone sang "Paranoid Android". was very confused. I understand "Karma Police", as that's very catchy and short, but ffs, as much as I love P.A. (and I do), it was awkward and lame.

Did you do the different voices during the opera section?

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link

lol i will admit I was singing the bass part of the choir for about 20 secs and then got bored cos nobody else knew the song at my table

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link

RS's list is an Elantra, Alfred's is a Corvette

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

Maybe picking Abbey Road as the best is more honest for a list that does whatever RS lists are supposed to do.

Great point. Abbey Road pretty much single-handedly set the sonic template for 70s rock/"classic rock"

Kid A was my first midnight release purchase ever

Yup, as a 14-year-old October 3, 2000 was the most important day of my life up until that point. I find it impossible to be remotely objective about Radiohead, but I think OK Computer is still their best.

Also I have absolutely no problem with the inclusion of Legend. It's orders of magnitude more iconic any other greatest hits comp I can think of (maybe the Great 28 is up there), and it's a flawless listening experience. They could have swapped it for Exodus, but I'm glad they didn't.

I do think it's a bummer that Tropicalia is the only era of Brazilian music that gets any attention from mags like RS; 70s and 80s MPB were way more interesting.

J. Sam, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

I've been thinking lately that I need to run back through the Radiohead discography (for the first time in a decade and a half, and having never ventured further than Hail to the Thief). Kid A was inarguably a mindblowing experience upon first listen but I went into it on release week with no real expectations, and also I was utterly bombed on substances in that particular moment so I can't say for sure that Cracked Rear View wouldn't have been a mindblowing listen.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link

"Idioteque" is my favourite song of theirs.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link

xpost can you create a thread where you trip acid and listen to Hootie plz

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link

Here are a few albums that I’m genuinely surprised don’t make the cut (and not just based on my personal taste or whatever):

Talking Heads 77 – while More Songs... is good, this is even better! The list undervalues the band via this omission.

Volunteers – while Surrealistic Pillow is good, this is even better! The list undervalues the band via this omission.

The Blue Mask – this album rules; I thought that was universally acknowledged.

Green – ok, it is my favorite R.E.M. album; but I also think it’s their best (next to Murmur). It was a creative peak for the band, and has also (IMO) stood the test of time better than most of theirs.

John Fogerty, Centerfield – has anyone listened to this? It’s, like, great – and fits right in the RS pocket.

Neko Case, Blacklisted – this really should be a canonical LP, in the same vein as Lucinda Williams and Gillian Welch.

Massive Attack, Protection – it’s even better than Blue Lines, no?

SAW II – nothing to explain here.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link

just noticed EPMD's Unfinished Business is not on this list

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link

one more:

Traveling Wilburys, Vol. I – sorry to get all Boomer on ya, but this is a total pleasure; and if three Petty albums make the cut (including Full Moon Fever), there’s a perfect case.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:40 (three years ago) link

top 50 lacks Neil Young, Al Green, Steely Dan.....all of whom I suppose lack a consensus best album

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 04:59 (three years ago) link

in general the complaints about philosophical coherence are right. I mean, if you’re gonna put Al Green’s Greatest Hits v1 on here at all it has to be a hell of a lot higher than #456...

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link

top 50 lacks Neil Young, Al Green, Steely Dan.....all of whom I suppose lack a consensus best album

With Neil, Tonight's the Night and Rust Never Sleeps would be my two picks, but if I had to pick one, I'd go with the former.

I thought Call Me was as close to a consensus pick as you could get for Green, and it's certainly my favorite out of an incredible run of great albums. It's his most fully realized album and does everything just a little better IMHO.

Steely Dan's Pretzel Logic may have been the consensus pick at one point, and I go back and forth between that and Katy Lied. The latter is more consistent and even more gorgeous melodically speaking, but the former's a bit more idiosyncratic (a plus) and a bit sharper.

But hey, the fact that so many favorites are missing in a top 500 means there's just so, much, great, music in the world! What a wonderful Golden Age we're living in! (Apologies, the news has got me down.)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

I thought it had been agreed that MBDTF Is not even the best Kanye album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 07:00 (three years ago) link

Marvin Gaye at #1 over Sgt Pepper’s is a choice I can get behind tho

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

Are the individual ballots for each voter going to get published? Interested in seeing those, specially a couple of the producers and musicians involved.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 07:15 (three years ago) link

I shouldn't get annoyed about stuff like this, but that's a rubbish top 50 list. God knows what the rest of it is like.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

Individually these records are all great (or at least, I can see the appeal), but man is this a narrow slice. Among the best 50 records of all time, is there really no place at all for any classical music, opera, ambient, metal, afrobeat? Not a single house/techno album or even a DJ mix? No place for Sinatra, Duke, Coltrane, Ella, Billie? Kraftwerk?

Siegbran, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link

christ a boring 50 in the most expected way imaginable. will have to be,'Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), the other albums i care for here were bested by their creators elsewhere

devvvine, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 11:28 (three years ago) link

will toast alfred for putting oceans apart on his ballot

devvvine, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

Obviously not, Siegbran.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

Tbf, classical music isn't a tradition built primarily around recordings - doesn't mean that e.g. Bernstein's Beethoven 5 isn't a great recording but 'albums' don't quite mean the same thing imo. RS did come out of 60s rock culture; I don't necessarily think they're doing something wrong by privileging a particular aesthetic.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

I agree with you all, albums do suck.

好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

And it even came out of a particular literary, songwriterly approach to 60s rock culture whereby e.g. Bob Dylan is obviously greater than Led Zeppelin and the Velvet Underground are more significant than King Crimson, which, again, is fine.but is a particular aesthetic. (I mean, f. hazel is probably right that they DO love the Joshua Tree.)

One thing I'll say about eclecticism is that by its very nature it tends to make lists like this redundant. You can coherently rank and compare things that are comparable and can be evaluated relative to each other. The more aesthetics you are willing to appreciate on their own terms, the less it makes sense to rank the greatness of What's Going On vs a recording of the Paris Opera vs a 12" techno mix vs a field recording of Inuit vocal games etc. A list just becomes a random individual's favourites, cf. my EOY ballots for ILM polls. xp!

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

fwiw I know at least slightly about half of the critics who wrote blurbs, and I'm not sure "they" love TJT.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

they ain't Robert Hilburn

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I totally defer to you on this; I'm just spitballing with no direct knowledge.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link


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