Musicians you would really punch in the face

Sorry to get all emo but this is the second time you've played this card today

Which one of these things doesn't belong here? (hint: coughthesecondonecough)

BTW, I hate gays and blacks equally.

and I love you, and you know it, too, but your conviction that white ppl not liking aboveground rap=white ppl revealing their secret racist hearts!!! needs serious reexamination. My hatred of Puffy isn't 'cause he's a convenient stand-in for stuff I don't like, it's cause back when he was all over the charts, listening to pop radio/watching MTV or its various equivalents became a fucking chore because I couldn't stand all that uncreative, dull recycling of songs under the guise of "sampling." You gotta give people the benefit of the doubt & take 'em at their word: people might just wanna punch Puffy in the face 'cause they think he sucks.

Oh yeah and there was the whole "I am no longer Puff Daddy, now I am P. Diddy" thing, which merits as much ridicule as the world can spare

physically attacking a bunch of black people who make 'bad' music = not racist

also he was diddy was before the namechange, he used it all over no way out!!

My hatred of Puffy isn't 'cause he's a convenient stand-in for stuff I don't like, it's cause back when he was all over the charts, listening to pop radio/watching MTV or its various equivalents became a fucking chore because I couldn't stand all that uncreative, dull recycling of songs under the guise of "sampling."

this statement makes no sense!! the second half merely reaffirms the first part you deny!! 'i hate modern hiphop--puffy is a representative of modern hiphop--i hate puffy' (or the even less convincing conclusion '--puffy is not a representative of modern hiphop')

and all that biggie stuff you love j0hn? straight puffy productions.

badboys 4 life was great too.

trife, here's what you said upthread:

in the past week the only thread on ilm to mention puffy or em or 50 or jay z is this one, when you only trot out these artists for a useless beatdown thread it starts to seem a little like racial profiling!! puffy hasnt even had a hit in years, hes not there for himself hes there as a symbol for rap that white people shouldnt like

so I was responding to that. Despite your multiple exclamation points, it is perfectly possible (even rational!) to hate Puffy because one thinks his music is ass & he couldn't write a lyric if his life depended on it. His records are ass. His production skills, whatever. The records he takes lead on suck bone. Period. As Sterling points out, he has appalling taste in music ("Every Breath You Take" is worth biting? JESUS), and his "sampling" is just such dull use of the medium. I NEVER SAID "oh he steals other people's stuff." I said that the way he did it is BORING. And it is.

I honestly can't think of any musician I'd like to punch; I accidentally ended up shoving Damon Albarn once and since he is my most hated that was satisfying enough.

I am not a big fan of Moby, but after my limited viewings of Cribs, I respect him a lot for still staying in the City.

The worst offenders are: Hollywood people who seem to care a lot about the victimized around the world, but probably dont ever step down from the hills to do anything about it at home (NB I finished City of Quartz a month ago and am still naseuous.) I am more unusure of how to feel about rappers, as some have made their money decalaiming the opressive police state in the ghetto and then they escape behind gated communities once they get famous. Either they didnt learn anything or know too much.

I need clarification on these points.

also once in Soho by a bunch of beered-up mooks

both times it was because i was at the top of my game yet not sufficiently humble about it

You have identified the chief flaw. Also, the prospect of Mr. Weedy Boy getting homoerotic with anything disturbs my soul.

however some of the pranks seem real insofar as the celebrity reactions are much more muted than hoped for. "oh, guys, this waiter is being annoying, let's leave a tip and go." "hahahaha beeatch you got PUNK'D!" "hm? oh, good show ashton, does anyone know where i parked my jetta?"

Chris Robinson. I know how to box; I'll help you out. Oh yes, and it's sub-Stones, darling. :)

As for a number of other posts here

1. MTV is the devil. If I could punch the lights out of every single individual responsible for MTV from ca. 1998 - present, I would.

2. Puff Daddy and people like him nauseate me. The very classic, very great Run DMC never needed a "posse" -- why the hell should this poor excuse need one? Oh, that's right -- to show off in the only way his bloated ego knows how. Bloody hell. All I know from 50 Cent is what my youngest cousins tell me, and I wouldn't touch him with a 50-foot pole. Does all the above make me racist? Hell no. If I were racist, I wouldn't miss Corey Glover on VH1 so much. If I were racist, I wouldn't have the love for Chic, Change, Chaka Khan, and Queen Latifah that I do. If I were racist, I wouldn't be able to play Duran Duran's Liberty, because you know, the drummer's one of "them" (Sterling Campbell, fyi). I am not racist for absolutely abhoring the "show the camera the $100,000 of jewelry you have, in a gaudily-decorated mansion no one of taste would actually get, with big bottles of undetermined liquor laying about everywhere, in a video that shows women nearly nude and men with big, baggy clothes and teed-off expressions that are pathetic instead of being threatening" ilk. I'm just someone who's a bit fed up, that's all. And it would be a bit laughable to assume I'm racist, after all the stories my parents have told me about how they were treated Way Back When.

*whew* Needed some things to be worked out, of course. :)

!!!!!!!!!!

fuck, where do i sign up for this!!! dee, what kind of mansions do people 'of taste' have?

er, they don't.