Good points all.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
Like, even this Barbara Streisand song is pretty tighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVyeNZCENZA
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
The Streisand/Gibb record got 5 stars ("indispensable") in The New Rolling Stone Record Guide (1983) and I remember thinking, "...really?" But hearing "Guilty" and "Woman In Love" recently I thought, ok, maybe I should check out the rest of the album.
And "Bernard Lupe" is credited as the drummer on three of its songs!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
Woman in Love could almost fit on the moody AOR thread.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
I was thinking about "Grease" (not mentioned in the film) and how odd it is that a song written by a singer who recently discovered his falsetto voice, for a singer known for falsetto, contains no falsetto at all.― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:42 AM (one hour ago)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:42 AM (one hour ago)
Also the incongruity of a contemporary disco song in a retro film about the 50s.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
Sure, but you're gonna have a Stigwood-produced, Travolta-starring film in 1978 without a disco song?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
There was already a similar time warp thing with "December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)"
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
It's kind of a disco song too, isn't it
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
Really good points about "Grease." Here you have a guy known for his falsetto ... singing *not* in falsetto, just after the Bee Gees made it fashionable (for white people), and for that matter singing an incongruous if denuded disco song on the soundtrack to a movie about the '50s ... right at peak disco, written by one of disco's prime engines. As Travolta would say, that's like, so weird.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
Okay, the fact that it wasn't sung falsetto really is kind of bizarre. It's barely even sung, some Rex Harrison stuff.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
I think the major issue with "Grease" (song) is that we live a life of illusion, wrapped up in trouble laced with confusion...
What are we doing here?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbeNpqE0Ys4
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
https://ew.com/movies/2018/04/20/barry-gibb-grease-demo-40th-anniversary-blu-ray/
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
Okay, always thought it was weird that the title song of Grease was not a doo-wop song and seemed so fixated on the actual word “grease.”
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
There's a story somewhere of Robert Stigwood telling Barry Gibb he needed to write a new theme song for his upcoming film Grease.
"'Grease'? How the hell do I write a song called 'Grease'?"
"Oh Barry, you know... Grease di di di, Grease da da da..."
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
Some of that stuff (xpost) is covered in the interview I linked to.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
Are you excited to have people hear this demo?
No, not particularly.
lmao
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
I guess it's similar in approach to a George Clinton song about The Funk.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link
Most of all we need The Grease.
https://theaudiophileman.com/true-falsetto-talking-frankie-valli/
Intriguingly, however, Valli generally only uses the falsetto when singing with the Four Seasons. For most of his solo hits, it’s nowhere to be found, “Falsetto is a great tool to have, if it’s not overdone.”
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
Valli was going all in on disco at that point, he also recorded the first version of "Native New Yorker" at about that time
― Josefa, Thursday, 17 December 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
He was also having some kind of hearing problems at the time, which is one of the reasons the drummer in the (new) Four Seasons was singing so many of the their material - including their singles.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
Here we are:
Valli began suffering from otosclerosis in 1967, forcing him to "sing from memory" in the latter part of the 1970s. Surgery performed by Los Angeles ear specialist Victor Goodhill restored most of his hearing by 1980.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
“Falsetto is a great tool to have, if it’s not overdone.”_
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link
Is that a quote from The Sopranos?
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Goodfellas:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPYDZsXBvw
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link
and that continued on into the '80s. i had no idea that they wrote islands in the stream. which means two members of the fugees had solo tracks that interpolated songs written by the gibbs bros.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 December 2020 05:08 (three years ago) link
wow, that's great, thanks. ethereal, yeah. would have slotted in beautifully next to late yacht stuff, and also "Cruisin'." hard for me to not hear it as a duet after all these years with Dolly and Kenny though!i note a small instrumental lift from "S.O.S." (the "when you're gone" part) about 2/3 of the way through...
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 December 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link
My favorite Gibb brothers tune written for another artist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KBfkDaOxEk
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
Which I had forgotten about until the doc, and then the second I heard the second of it included in the movie I started humming along.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 December 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
Another great Barry demo of that one, tho I think I still prefer the final version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnbs3YHkXgThis is another one he did for the Kenny Rogers album he wrote, I love the chorus on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiCnUqjAueY
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 19 December 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
saw two Bee Gees threads bumped back to back and was afraid Barry died. phew.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
The doc should have been a series, like the Grateful Dead one on Amazon. Also, a lot of the vintage interview clips, etc, seemed to have been sped up, perhaps to fit enough material in the timeframe?
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:28 (three years ago) link
Maybe they were just changing the pitch to make it sound more like they were speaking in falsetto.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
so the Barry Gibb talkshow was real?
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
Barry’s new country duets album Greenfields is great, have been listening to it a lot
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link
Barry sounds great and Little Big Town guesting for "How Deep Is Your Love" is every bit as smooth as one would hope.
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
if they do more of these I would KILL for a countryfied "Mr. Natural"
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link
yeah agree!i could listen to Butterfly on repeat, it sounds so good, the way his voice blends w Gillian Welch is lovely and the Keith Urban opener, Got To Get A Message To You really knocked my socks off
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link
the one w/ miranda is great... sounded like something that could've been on one of her records
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link
it took me a couple of listens to get into that one - it was weird hearing it slowed down like that, i wasnt sure if i liked it! but i agree now that they really nailed it
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link
miranda manages the impossible, making "Jive Talkin" sound like it's about something
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 January 2021 00:44 (three years ago) link
otm
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 January 2021 03:07 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHa6vYq6Nyk
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 November 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
Am I unwiseTo open up your eyes
― tvod+ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link
Indeed. Though that line about needing someone older has always irritated me somewhat.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link
I used to sing that song to my kid when she was tiny at bedtime, though I obviously changed that whole problematic chunk of lyric. Still one of my favourite Bee Gees jams though.
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link
You need a boulder?You look like a soldier?You need someone’s folder?What did you sing?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link
I'm trying to remember the fudge. I think I may have just repeated "you need someone's shoulder" or "someone to hold yer"... She was only 3 then and not so demanding an audience, I totally would not get away with it now.
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:17 (two years ago) link