"Sun City" - Artists United Against Apartheid - Classic or Dud?

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Yeah, what's kind of amazing about "We Are The World" is that all those very distinctive singers (and huge stars') personalities actually somehow manage to emerge, in just the few brief seconds they're each alloted. (Though they're pretty much all Americans, right? Hardly the "world". Which I'm sure lots of people must have pointed out at the time. Not that it makes the record any worse.)

Christgau liked both songs btw ("Sun City" was his #5 single of the year, "We Are The World" his #8). Greil Marcus hated "We Are The World," though, as I recall, and I could never make sense of his reasoning, which struck me as really convoluted.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually thought We Are The World was a really good album, too -- "If Only For The Moment Girl" is this great lost Steve Perry song that nobody ever mentions, and "Trapped" might well be my favorite post-Born In The USA Bruce track.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Greil Marcus hated "We Are The World," though, as I recall, and I could never make sense of his reasoning, which struck me as really convoluted.

I followed it fine (he gets off one great zinger using the line "When you're down and out" -- "The Ethiopians are `DOWN AND OUT'?") but didn't agree with most of it.

A Band Aid started a few years ago horrified me: lots of preferred "Do They Know It's Xmas?"

defend the indefensible: "we are the world"

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow...I had no idea people hated the song so much!

But what do they think of "Tears Are Not Enough" by Northern Lights, is what I really want to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJN3u1wAWIk

Or Hear N' Aid, for that matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AGHguQ_oM

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Doesn't Marcus also make some half-baked cultstud argument about U.S. celebrities devouring the bodies of the third world or whatnot?

Hoot Smalley, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"We Ate the World"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh...I swear I wasn't aware of this til just this second (was kind of busy with other things today):

The ceremony closed with two even more powerful gestures. Lionel Richie kicked off his and Michael's pleas for global peace, "We Are the World" and "Heal the World," joined by background singers and dancers from Michael's comeback tour "This Is It" that was scheduled to begin next week.

Is that the first time somebody actually covered it? Was it any good? Was anything else at the tribute ceremony any good? Kind of curious now.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, lots of tribute stuff viewable here (which is where that quote came from):

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/147357/michael-jackson-tribute-fit-for-a-king/

Don't get the "We Are The Ones" in the screen in that one clip...Maybe they covered the Avengers classic, too?

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

first time somebody actually covered it?

Well, there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQLhOXlGnRE&feature=PlayList&p=D12E9F33AA184C72&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43

SNL one doesn't seem to be on youtube.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 03:36 (fourteen years ago) link

And there's this:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/33851/the-simpsons-sending-our-love

dad a, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I always found "We are the World" the most loathesome example of celebrity back-patting self congratulatory dribblespit out of the whole lot of those things. So schmaltzy! So dreadful. At least "Ain't gonna play Sun City" had some kick and funk to it.

lolsbury hill (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah "sun city" is the best song qua song of the bunch -- they all have stupid lyrics, but "sun city" is more specific at least, and i always sort of admired the small scale of its ambitions. not saving the world or the children, just saying that we as rock stars will at least not go play in a south african resort. ok, maybe the least they could do, but as far as i know they actually all lived up to it.

Banalities aside, "We Are The World" allows Steve Perry, Willie Nelson, and Ray Charles to be themselves, whereas I can't distinguish John Oates from Ruben Blades, or Nona Hendryx from Bono; it's a lot of cross-racial humanist yelling.

i dunno, joey ramone singing "con-STRUCK-tive en-GAGE-ment is ronald reagan's play-un" is pretty joey ramoney. plus, the rap breakdown alone on "sun city" is better than any part of "we are the world."

us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Serious question: Do you think anyone in the world played this album straight through last year? It was #5 P&J for 1985.

Mark, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I've played weirder, more time-trapped things beginning to end on a whim, so I suppose it's possible. If it happened, though, I'd be surprised if it was more than 3 or 4 people out of 6 billion.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

I got this album a month ago and let the whole thing play. It was surprisingly good from start to finish. I had low expectations and there’s no doubt that it’s by design an LP length maxi-single, but these are really good B-sides.

Put it on again in memory of Desmond Tutu.

birdistheword, Sunday, 26 December 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link


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