In Praise Of... Mick Taylor

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All that keeps me from preferring Mick Taylor to Ronnie is that the Stones recorded Goat's Head Soup and It's Only Rock and Roll with him.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, the least essential of the 1977-1986 almost-decace is Undercover, so...

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Mick Taylor >> Brian Jones >>> Ronnie Wood (Stones-era, not Faces)

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel like Bimble, is that so wrong?

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

awful video sorry, just listen to Mick Taylor rule your world.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

great thread. favorite stones era.

ian, Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

as far as taylor era boots go, yeah the LiveR Than You'll Ever Be is great, the Leeds 1971 is killer and a 1972 or 73 show in Brussels is worth seeking out ...

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:40 (fourteen years ago) link

dunno if the download link still works but http://stonestocry.blogspot.com/2007/07/rolling-stones-nasty-music.html

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

All that keeps me from preferring Mick Taylor to Ronnie is that the Stones recorded Goat's Head Soup and It's Only Rock and Roll with him.

― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:03 PM

If Goats Head Soup hadn't come on the heels of that crazy epic run, it would be a lot less slept on.

I'm usually with you on the whole challopsy Emotional Rescue-through-Steel Wheels thing but Taylor's lead work starting around 2:20 is worth any one of those records, and maybe all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwu0MQrk_ec

That said, Keith's jab is douchey but I respect it. Mick Taylor is a tremendous guitar player, but the 24/7 rolling stones rock star circus did not agree with him.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link

heard an awesome boot from the perth show of the '73 tour on the radio one day, they were slamming through the tracks like a punk band, but never was able to find it unfortunately.

old chisel (haitch), Thursday, 9 July 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

fuckin sway, man

Woke up with this song in my head this morning. One of the absolute best they ever did.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link

a 1972 or 73 show in Brussels is worth seeking out ...

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/the-rolling-stones-concert/20050846-7762.html

willem, Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i got me a nice little list to work with - thanks!

sknybrg, Thursday, 9 July 2009 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Didn't Jimmy Miller play drums on lots of "Exile," or at least some of it?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I know he played on "Happy."

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"heard an awesome boot from the perth show of the '73 tour"

I have a boot from an Australian show in '72 or '73 that is so fucking awesome it's jaw dropping. This may be the one.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon scotland...

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

caught with 1.1km to go

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

haha sorry, wrong thread.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

MacTaylor

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Tour de Keef

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Instead of water you get blood replacements as you bike.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.usmagazine.com/files/images/605_jlu_richards.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd wondered why Ned was posting here.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

here's something mick taylor did after the stones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znchZzjRfuU

m coleman, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

here's something mick taylor did before the stones (video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzYBTIDYO0

m coleman, Thursday, 9 July 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus, none of these links (for nasty music or perth) work anymore. anyone fancy taking it over to the Leandro Music Journal?

beta blog, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

google blog search dawg

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

(which one is that, the Perth? I don't have that one.)

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I've got two separate boots which claim to be Brussels shows from that era xp - there's a 'Gimme Shelter' on one of them where Taylor is just incredible

I was flicking through a book about Exile recently and learned that not only did MT not enjoy being a Stone, but he didn't really want to join them in the first place and did so against his better judgement

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

is that the robert greenfield book? i wanna read that...

I understand that the romantic interest route is very popular. (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

That classic albums series of books also informs us that Jagger flirted non-stop with Taylor.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it was, yeah. It looked pretty good, but when I went to order it off Amazon the reviews pretty much trashed it and I got cold feet

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I would've made a bad Stone too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it is a weird set-up that doesn't really appear many other places -- the awesome lead guitarist who musically is a huge presence, but is completely overshadowed in terms of the other band members. are there other bands like that?

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

it seems like lots of folks i know are kinda blah on Mayall's propensity for formalism, but Bare Wires (showcasing a young Mick taylor) is pretty dope & highly recommended

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

All that keeps me from preferring Mick Taylor to Ronnie is that the Stones recorded Goat's Head Soup and It's Only Rock and Roll with him.

― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:03 PM

lol man i totally adore it's only rock & roll

goat's head and B&B are the ones I can go a while without hearing.

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Big ups for the link, Steve Shasta! Never heard this one before - sounds great.

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it was, yeah. It looked pretty good, but when I went to order it off Amazon the reviews pretty much trashed it and I got cold feet

amazon reviewers otm

dmr, Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

who here remembers "Leather Jackets"?

henry s, Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

{url=http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M0EVSQ4O]here's the 'Gimme Shelter' I was talking 'bout earlier[/url]

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgot he was on bare wires. i love that album.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost gtr5101 is a treasure trove of musica

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 July 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for that link Tyler, listened to that live '72 album on the commute this morning. It's fantastic.

willem, Friday, 10 July 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

So I am dumb and don't know anything at all about music or instruments. Would it be possible to explain to me, in words I could understand, what I'm hearing here and which part Mick Taylor is playing? I ask because I love the outro to Tumbling Dice and I've been wondering for years what exactly is happening in it that makes it sound so good.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link

The outro is a simple repetitive riff by Keith who is the heart of this song, he really drives every aspect of it. Mick Taylor is just a kid, fresh out of Mayall's Blues band (he replaced Peter Green who replaced Eric Clapton), so he has a tendency to want to do these wanky leads which are just unnecessary, but Keith is like: "Just surrender to this groove man" and when they are in-step/sync, it's just about heaven.

The more complicated way to describe what's happening is that Keith plays a very particular tuning that was not common outside of blues & some folk (he only uses 5-strings in open-G but capo'd on the 4th fret = BF#BD#F#) whereas Mick Taylor is playing standard (EADGBE) but despite the different tunings, they are playing the exact same notes for most of the outro. Some strings Keith plays ring open at times, and most of the time Mick's playing gives more depth & body to the repetitive groove. It's the stylistic differences of the two of them being forced to do the same thing that is rather magical to my ears. And not to discount the rest of the band, the keys & the brass is also great. But sometimes I hear why Mick Taylor was such a key figure in this era of the Stones and I try to put my finger on it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:43 (three years ago) link

Beautifully put. And it's enlightening to catch Keith playing boss/bandleader (maybe a bit territorial?) in that clip. Never noticed it before.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 19 September 2020 08:43 (three years ago) link

Always enjoy trying to parse the lyrics to TD. I seem to hear “fever in the pork house, now” when it goes to the fourth and fifth

calstars, Saturday, 19 September 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

Thank you, that's a great explanation.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Big Taylor fan, but in hindsight he was a really weird choice for the Stones. I mean those guys could barely play…

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

I don't know if I would say he ever overplayed on the studio albums, though. Maybe on "Time Waits For No-One".

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 August 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

KR: "Mick Taylor is a great guitarist, but he found out the hard way that that's all he is"
He found out the hard way---that he isn't/doesn't really know all the things that it takes to sustain a satisfying (or any?) career in music? He made an album or two, maybe more, somewhere, also toured with Dylan several times, shows up on some live records that way, but other than that, what? I read a long time ago that he was supposedly selling off his gold Stones records and other stuff---
Anyway, was already thinking about some of the things he recorded w Mayall & Bluesbreakers, especially this earworm from Crusade: "Oh Pretty Woman," orig. by Albert King---Taylor fits in here pretty well, providing a lilt and spark w/o showboating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xvc-KzniPM

dow, Sunday, 14 August 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzC_3ai1ek

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

I mean wasn't Mick Taylor stuffed by the Stones for songwriting royalties or am I misremembering something?

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah. He legit wrote the music for "Moonlight Mile" and "Sway," for example.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

upthread there's a claimed update to the gold-records story, where taylor apparently told NME that actually the daily mail version of the story was scurrilously exaggerated gossip and that he was still on good terms with the band

Taylor's retracting the original story: http://www.nme.com/news/the-rolling-stones/47326

― dad a, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 02:55 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

unfortunately linkrot and the NME's usual digital incompetence means the story isn't there any more so who knows where things stand (daily mail never a good source tho)

mark s, Monday, 15 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah. He legit wrote the music for "Moonlight Mile" and "Sway," for example.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, August 15, 2022 5:00 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

two of the best Stones songs imo

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

also "time waits for no one"

veronica moser, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

That one absolute leapt out at me on a recent replay of the IORNR LP

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

two of the best Stones songs imo

― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie

top tem for me

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

What do we think of Leather Jacket?

calstars, Saturday, 3 June 2023 21:25 (eleven months ago) link


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