In Praise Of... Mick Taylor

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is that the robert greenfield book? i wanna read that...

I understand that the romantic interest route is very popular. (stevie), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

That classic albums series of books also informs us that Jagger flirted non-stop with Taylor.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it was, yeah. It looked pretty good, but when I went to order it off Amazon the reviews pretty much trashed it and I got cold feet

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I would've made a bad Stone too

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it is a weird set-up that doesn't really appear many other places -- the awesome lead guitarist who musically is a huge presence, but is completely overshadowed in terms of the other band members. are there other bands like that?

tylerw, Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

it seems like lots of folks i know are kinda blah on Mayall's propensity for formalism, but Bare Wires (showcasing a young Mick taylor) is pretty dope & highly recommended

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

All that keeps me from preferring Mick Taylor to Ronnie is that the Stones recorded Goat's Head Soup and It's Only Rock and Roll with him.

― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:03 PM

lol man i totally adore it's only rock & roll

goat's head and B&B are the ones I can go a while without hearing.

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Big ups for the link, Steve Shasta! Never heard this one before - sounds great.

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it was, yeah. It looked pretty good, but when I went to order it off Amazon the reviews pretty much trashed it and I got cold feet

amazon reviewers otm

dmr, Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

who here remembers "Leather Jackets"?

henry s, Thursday, 9 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

{url=http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M0EVSQ4O]here's the 'Gimme Shelter' I was talking 'bout earlier[/url]

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgot he was on bare wires. i love that album.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 July 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost gtr5101 is a treasure trove of musica

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 July 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for that link Tyler, listened to that live '72 album on the commute this morning. It's fantastic.

willem, Friday, 10 July 2009 05:43 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Mick Taylor speaks!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 September 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the ravages of time : (

velko, Monday, 14 September 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

poor guy

iago g., Monday, 14 September 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd like to think that somehow that is not as clear cut a case of theft as it sounds. If he really hasn't gotten any checks in all these years, it's contemptible.

what shit.

Zachary Taylor, Monday, 14 September 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link

In the words of the old song THATS LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- minnie, midlands, 13/9/2009 10:05

rich, velvety condescension (stevie), Monday, 14 September 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

That's bullshit

Bill Magill, Monday, 14 September 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

how is this even possible? that is a sad story...

Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Taylor's retracting the original story: http://www.nme.com/news/the-rolling-stones/47326

dad a, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The Daily Mail tell fibs? Shocking.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Can you imagine joining the biggest band in the world at the time, at age 20?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ1CRKiwdho

ffwd to the epic outro (~2:30): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ1CRKiwdho

Keith is in open-G capo 4 (open B) and Mick is in standard but listen to (aside from a few throwaway lead lines 2:58-3:16, looks like Keith tells him to stop) how absolutely locked in he is with Keith & the rhythm section, you get nice video at 3:33-3:39.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link

So I am dumb and don't know anything at all about music or instruments. Would it be possible to explain to me, in words I could understand, what I'm hearing here and which part Mick Taylor is playing? I ask because I love the outro to Tumbling Dice and I've been wondering for years what exactly is happening in it that makes it sound so good.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link

The outro is a simple repetitive riff by Keith who is the heart of this song, he really drives every aspect of it. Mick Taylor is just a kid, fresh out of Mayall's Blues band (he replaced Peter Green who replaced Eric Clapton), so he has a tendency to want to do these wanky leads which are just unnecessary, but Keith is like: "Just surrender to this groove man" and when they are in-step/sync, it's just about heaven.

The more complicated way to describe what's happening is that Keith plays a very particular tuning that was not common outside of blues & some folk (he only uses 5-strings in open-G but capo'd on the 4th fret = BF#BD#F#) whereas Mick Taylor is playing standard (EADGBE) but despite the different tunings, they are playing the exact same notes for most of the outro. Some strings Keith plays ring open at times, and most of the time Mick's playing gives more depth & body to the repetitive groove. It's the stylistic differences of the two of them being forced to do the same thing that is rather magical to my ears. And not to discount the rest of the band, the keys & the brass is also great. But sometimes I hear why Mick Taylor was such a key figure in this era of the Stones and I try to put my finger on it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:43 (three years ago) link

Beautifully put. And it's enlightening to catch Keith playing boss/bandleader (maybe a bit territorial?) in that clip. Never noticed it before.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 19 September 2020 08:43 (three years ago) link

Always enjoy trying to parse the lyrics to TD. I seem to hear “fever in the pork house, now” when it goes to the fourth and fifth

calstars, Saturday, 19 September 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

Thank you, that's a great explanation.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 19 September 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Big Taylor fan, but in hindsight he was a really weird choice for the Stones. I mean those guys could barely play…

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

I don't know if I would say he ever overplayed on the studio albums, though. Maybe on "Time Waits For No-One".

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 August 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

KR: "Mick Taylor is a great guitarist, but he found out the hard way that that's all he is"
He found out the hard way---that he isn't/doesn't really know all the things that it takes to sustain a satisfying (or any?) career in music? He made an album or two, maybe more, somewhere, also toured with Dylan several times, shows up on some live records that way, but other than that, what? I read a long time ago that he was supposedly selling off his gold Stones records and other stuff---
Anyway, was already thinking about some of the things he recorded w Mayall & Bluesbreakers, especially this earworm from Crusade: "Oh Pretty Woman," orig. by Albert King---Taylor fits in here pretty well, providing a lilt and spark w/o showboating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xvc-KzniPM

dow, Sunday, 14 August 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzC_3ai1ek

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

I mean wasn't Mick Taylor stuffed by the Stones for songwriting royalties or am I misremembering something?

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah. He legit wrote the music for "Moonlight Mile" and "Sway," for example.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

upthread there's a claimed update to the gold-records story, where taylor apparently told NME that actually the daily mail version of the story was scurrilously exaggerated gossip and that he was still on good terms with the band

Taylor's retracting the original story: http://www.nme.com/news/the-rolling-stones/47326

― dad a, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 02:55 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

unfortunately linkrot and the NME's usual digital incompetence means the story isn't there any more so who knows where things stand (daily mail never a good source tho)

mark s, Monday, 15 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

Yeah. He legit wrote the music for "Moonlight Mile" and "Sway," for example.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, August 15, 2022 5:00 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

two of the best Stones songs imo

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

also "time waits for no one"

veronica moser, Monday, 15 August 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

That one absolute leapt out at me on a recent replay of the IORNR LP

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

two of the best Stones songs imo

― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie

top tem for me

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

What do we think of Leather Jacket?

calstars, Saturday, 3 June 2023 21:25 (eleven months ago) link


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