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Well, "I Don't Believe in the Sun".

Josh, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

There was a time when Cher's "Believe" was inescapable. Plus: She married "SON"ny Bono! ( sorry.)

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"The Beat Goes On" by the All Seeing I was a danced-up reworking of the same song by Sonny and Cher. Meanwhile, "New Years Dub" by Some Chancer was recently a danced up version of "New Years Day" by U2 featuring that other Bono. The beat from NYD though had been used 7 years before on:

DJ Shadow - Lost And Found

Tom, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another Shadow, Morton of that ilk, produced the Shangri-Las, whose "Past, Present And Future" was the structural starting point for "Various Times" by The Fall.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

DJ Shadow no doubt "lost and found" many different things at his home in the Temescal apartment complex on Sycamore street in Davis, California, where he used to live (across the street from me!) The fact that sycamores are native to Egypt is a piece of botanical trivia no doubt lost upon Pharoah Sanders who titled himself after the rulers of ancient Egypt, who currently lives about a half hour away from Davis, California, and who used to cut records with Wah Wah Watson -- who can be said to be to the guitar what Jah Wobble is to the bass. Therefore, PIL's "Careering".

Kris, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Various Times" proving that Mark E Smith was at least as interested in death camps and nazi psychoanalysis as John Lydon was, a theme further explored by Rush in "Red Sector A".

Kris, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The clone-counterpart of the robot Sektor in Mortal Kombat 3 was Cyrax, whose name sounds rather like Cyrix, whose recent processors are far faster than the CPU used in the eponymous "cyberpunk band" 386 DX, led by Russian ("Rush in") Alexei Shulgin.

Phil, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I seem to remember Alexei Shulgin sponsoring a "Form Art" competition on the nettime mailing list some years back (whatever happened to that?). Alexei's attitude towards found materials reminds me of RUN-DMC's "Walk This Way", which made a journey from studio lark to full-on remake - much like...

Madonna's "American Pie"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The most American of pies being, of course, Apple, the label of our good friends Badfinger (who were also heavily cribbed by other apples, our Apples in Stereo).

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I can't hear "Badfinger" without thinking of Soundgarden and "Rusty Cage" from Badmotorfinger.

Josh, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Soundgarden started out on SST so did Husker DU, who released a number of fine albums on SST including Zen Aracade before moving to Warner Brothers.

DJ Martian, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Zen Arcade.

DJ Martian, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Husker Du is Swedish for "do you remember?", and do you remember that other great Swedish pop sensation, Abba?

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

They won the eurosong festival, Celine Dion also participated in that hip event - a few laters of course.

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

a few *years* later. or is that centuries?

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dion & the Belmonts' "Runaround Sue", rumoured to be about somebody with venereal disease, sort of like "WHy Does It Hurt When I Pee" by Frank Zappa.

tarden, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Frank Zappa and Paula Yates both loved giving their kids daft names; Ron Yeats could never be accused of such behaviour, but *did* put through his own goal in the 1966 European Cup Winners' Cup final, a match played at Hampden Park, Glasgow. This was also the venue for The Greatest European Club Final Of All Time (Until Last Month) - Real Madrid's 7-3 win over Eintracht Frankfurt in 1960.

Hence: Prefuse 73: "Vocal Studies and Uprock Narratives"

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Frank Zappa manufactured and produced the girl group, the GTO's, of which Pamela Des Barres was a member. Good old Pammy enjoyed a long and naughty underage groupie sex affair with Jimmy Page. Now we've got this thread away from that nasty football nubbins and back on the right page again.

masonic boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Pammy's 1st groupie experience was (apparently) giving DON VAN VLIET aka CAPT BEEFHEART a hand job!

duane zarakov, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

shit , sorry, it was supposed to be something about Jimmy Page. OK he was mentioned in "Rock Show" by WINGS, & Paul McCartney married EX- GROUPIE Linda E. & Pamela Des Barres was a famous GROUPIE & like i just said(...) CAPT. BEEFHEART.

duane, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The line "it's the blimp"in a Beefheart song was sampled by dEUS.

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

"Deuce" is the opening track on KISS ALIVE!

tarden, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The opposite of kissing alive people is kissing dead people. The Nic Roeg/Art Garfunkel film 'Bad Timing' touches on the thorny issue of necrophilia. Is that title supposed to be hilariously inappropriate euphemism/excuse for shagging dead people? ("If only I'd got there a day sooner no one would have batted an eyelid!" cries the culprit as he is hauled off the corpse by the cops). Anyway, The Billie Holliday song "It's The Same Old Story" runs over the end credits to the film.

Nick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

[Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday Holiday — OP]

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Greil Marcus pontificated on the significance of the Sex Pistols' "Holidays In the Sun" for a number of pages in his weighty tome Lipstick Traces.

Nicole, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Which 'Lipstick Traces' song are you picking to link to, Nicole?

Nick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

er, Holidays In the Sun?

As a link to the Holliday/Holiday refs above? Sadly, even in print I am using upspeak.

Nicole, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

So the Griel Marcus bit is kind of redundant, yeah? (I like this upspeak - is that really what it's called? Especially since Stephen Fry moaned about it?)

Nick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I just like picking on Greil and to throw in a gratuitous reference? He has some really interesting theories on things but gets a bit tiresome in the long run?

Nicole, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

'Lipstick' soundtrack by Michel Polnareff!

tarden, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Greil Marcus' "Rock Death In The 70s: A Sweepstakes" starts with a rant against the overuse in pop culture of the word "survivor", which has been obnoxiously revived by Destiny's Child.

Patrick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Guns N roses had ahit with Sweet Child o Mine, and Tommy what's his face from The Replacements is now in Guns N Roses, and Westerberg's Hair always reminds me of Dave Pirner who fucked Winona Rider who fucked Johhny Depp, so how's about the theme from 21 Jump Street, which kinda ties back into the GNR link, via the 21 gun salute, Traci Gun being a founder of GNR, who later went on to form LA Guns. AAARgh

Geoff, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Thanks for instigating that new rule, Kate - if you don't like the way a connection was made you can jump back one. Let's hope it doesn't lead to chaos.

I naturally detest all mention of Guns'N'Roses, so I'll stick with Destiny's Child...

Spear of Destiny... Billie Jo Spears: "Blanket On The Ground"

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

One Perfect Green Blanket by Barbara Manning

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Bernard Manning did 'comedy' at his own Embassy Club, Embassies are cigarettes, and through slang mangled as it crosses the Atlantic we get 'Faget' by Korn

tarden, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Run DMC wrote a song about (my) ADIDAS, just like Korn.

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The first bit of ADIDAS backwards is SADI. Come had an album I bought cause of a Melody Maker review and then regretted it, one of the tracks on which was 'Sad Eyes'

Nick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

If you move the space, you get Sade Yes, and hey, how about that Trevor Horn?

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Who produced Dollar, who covered "I Want To Hold Your Hand" by the Beatles.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The secretly reformed Beatles were rumoured to be the anonymous Klaatu, whose song Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft was recorded by karen Carpenter, heroine of an all-doll movie directed by Todd Haynes, who also directed Velvet Goldmine, which featured made-up band the Maxwell Demons, in hommage to a 60s band that Eno often said he was in, but probably also just made up.

mark s, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Another Rhode Island School of Design grad created the group that wrote the 80's smash:

"Burnin Down the House"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

sorry, to clarify: Todd Haynes went to RISD, the talented arty fuck.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Gibby Haynes is no relation to Todd, but made a great Butthole Surfers record called Hairway To Steven...

suzy, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dealing with buttholes and stairways we soon find ourselves ascending the "Anal Staircase" by Coil.

Janne Vanhanen, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Oops! We have a gap up there, which I'll try to patch by stating that buttholeisms and (burnt-down) houses converge at the mentioned Coil with their label, Treshold House.

Janne Vanhanen, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

You can get Coil's soundtrack to Derek Jarman's "Blue" on that label if I'm not mistaken. Jarman had almost completely lost his sight due to AIDS when he made "Blue"; the movie is a 3hr soundtrack to an unchanging blue screen. N'Sync made extensive use of blue-screen technology in the video for their new song, "Pop", which Justin Timberlake (real name??) claimed is N'Sync's answer to two-step anthems like

"Destiny" by Dem 2

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

So much for desitny
A pin prick on my knee . . .

Thus spoketh Stephen Malkmus on Pavement's Terror Twilight

bnw, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

SM released an album called Stephen Malkmus.

JM, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The artwork of the Watery, Domestic EP by Malkmus' old band was stolen from an old Atomic Rooster album.

Patrick, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

If a rooster were bombarded with atomic energy, the radiation might render it infertile, much like a capon. Today, I was at a computer event where lunch was served, and one of the entrees was, in fact, capon. The computer company (which shall remain nameless) has been including networking components in its PCs. This ties in nicely with the first part of the question: The Water Walk was a domestic band (thus, watery and domestic), which put its music out on the label Nettwerk.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link


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