I have never heard a good Tom Waits cover
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:39 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Come on, man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tpu_XoNABA
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
Youtube indie ukulele voice always scans as a gross perversion of Billie Holiday to me.
― Citole Country (bendy), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
epic is nu metal af. linkin park did it better tho
― nothing (Left), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
I've seen so many nu metal acts who cite Faith No More as inspiration, including I would assume the band considered the most important nu metal band
"My favorite Faith No More record is The Real Thing. That's when Mike Patton took over. That's the one. I do like We Care a Lot. We got a lot of our influences from The Real Thing. It showed everybody you could do heavy music and not be "metal". It was something completely different." - Jonathan Davis 2015"They can do no wrong by me. They sound great. I like their new stuff, too. It fits right in with the old stuff, I think. I think everyone is so excited to hear them and see them playing together again, I know a couple of the guys, they're great guys and phenomenal musicians. To me, they're not a metal band. They always say they're not a metal band. I've always kind of felt that way about Korn. They inspired Fieldy and I to start a band and start playing. That was back in 1987, so it's inspiring that not only are they still going, but they sold out that place three nights in a row. It gives guys like me hope." - Munky Shaffer 2015"The chemistry of the way that Bill Gould plays bass in Faith No More is incredible. He and I kind of play the same, but he plays on-beat and with a pick most of the time, even though it sounds like he’s slapping. As much as I practise, I can’t play like that." - Fieldy 2020
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
Corollary question: has said bad influence dragged down your estimation of the good artist?
Like, I once rated Cream a great band, and they're hardly a broad influence these days, but I don't think of them as a great band anymore. Not sure if dull blues rock or Clapton's subsequent awfulness is the bigger weight.
― Citole Country (bendy), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
I think Clapton's stock is real low across the board these days
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link
Whiney - that video's unavailable in my country
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
I quite like Dion's cover of "Looking for the Heart of Saturday Night."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9fZLOqsTxM
― Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
System of a downSerj Tankian: “I love Faith No More and Mike Patton. Patton always pushes boundaries and does something completely different.”
SlikpnotCorey Taylor: “Mike Patton is a crazy genius. Watching him basically take the piss out of that entire audience and the fact everyone in that band had such diverse personalities that it worked, I was mesmerized. It shook my whole idea of what you can do musically”
DeftonesChino Moreno: “The first album had a couple of good songs, but Angel Dust sounded savage to me. It sounded way more like a Mike Patton record. I feel like he had a lot more influence on it.”
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link
ramones' "i don't wanna grow up" is the first one i thought of too.
also, the various "way down in the hole" versions used in the wire.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
important to note that there are many godawful tom waits covers too (eagles, rod stewart, scarlett johansson)
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
It's still up for debate whether I saw Serj wandering around at the first Mr. Bungle reunion show
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
I think I actually like the nu-metal bands/songs best when they're influenced by Patton. System of a Down, definitely. Korn's second album sounds very much like he heard "Ugly In The Morning" and made a whole album out of that. So I concede on it - definitely a huge influence on the genre.
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link
The Scarlett Johannsson album is one of my favorite albums of the '00s
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
to look at?
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
maybe i should also renege slightly on the Waits covers: I've never heard one I can safely say improves on the original. None of the Wire ones float my boat
― Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link
Mike Patton is one of my favorite singers. Faith No More, one of my favorite bands of all time. Very inspiring to me. I fell in love with that band at a very young age, and I saw them a few times growing up. I was bummed out when they parted ways [in 1998], but they're doing shows again, which is awesome.But as far as influence, the way that I sing, I definitely was inspired by Mike Patton, but lyrically, I approach my songs very differently than Mike Patton does. He comes from a place of a bit more sarcasm... a lot more sarcasm. Whereas I come from that heart and soul kind of place. My two favorite singers are Mike Patton and Mike Ness from Social Distortion. Total opposites, but I like the storytelling that Mike Ness does so I kind of fused both those two guys together at an early age, and it inspired me to become my own thing." - Jacoby Shaddix
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
ums, i didn't notice an open quote so i thought you were speaking for yourself there haha
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link
to look at?― voodoo chili, Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:59 PM (fifty-two seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― voodoo chili, Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:59 PM (fifty-two seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's a bleary 4AD-style record by the TVOTR producer, the songwriting is obviously peerless, and ScarJo has an affectless post-punk delivery that everyone jizzed over when Italians Do It Better was doing the same.
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
voodoo I am jacoby shaddix just try to keep a low profile
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link
trying to think of ground zero for the awful rinkydink uke/xylophone/toy piano sound that has defined music used in commercials, TV and movies for the last 15+ years, and coming back to the Mark Mothersbaugh's Wes Anderson soundtracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDYZ5CzfGg
impossible to hear that music today and not hear a voice going "think all credit monitoring apps are created equal? think again."
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link
I rather like Sarah McLachlan's cover of "Ol' 55", Ramones cover of "I Don't Wanna Grow Up", and Holly Cole made an entire album of jazz-trio Waits covers that most people kinda dump on but I think is vg
― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't consider them one of my favorite bands or anything but Mr. Bungle influenced a lot of nu metal and Disco Volante is a pretty solid album (the others have their moments, too).
― zacata, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
Stockhausen influenced a lot of third-rate "avant-garde" rock artists like Frank Zappa.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
and ... The Beatles
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
Zappa might be the worst artist who influenced far better music than they made themselves (argument begins...now). Probably another thread though.
― judged and found wanting by the steve hoffman forums (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link
good call on the rushmore soundtrack one eye open
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:40
my first thought when i saw this thread
― mark e, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link
Every influential artist ever.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link
true.
― mark e, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
Dylan or the Beatles. That just comes with being massively influential - it's hard NOT to influence a lot of bad music when you're that famous and celebrated.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
I thought what we're focusing on here is the (negative) quality of the bad music, not the quantity...
― beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
Whoever was responsible for post-grunge.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
I wonder whether post-grunge really is the most hated genre of all time or if it's just an ILX affectation.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
Tom Waits was a pretty good influence on things up until the late 90s. That's almost 30 years. It started going south with Dresden Dolls, Gogol Bordello.
― Citole Country (bendy), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link
not sure if this is correct, but I feel like a lot of extremely tepid 90s and early 2000s music was influenced by REM
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
I went to Cesky Krumlov one time and spent the weekend hanging out with (among other people) the singer from a Tom Waits covers band, he was a nice guy and very funny but had also just done a load of acid and was only just about holding it together the whole time. I saw his band in Prague a few months later and they were pretty good, spoke to him afterwards and he had absolutely no memory at all of me or the weekend.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link
I think the problem with post-grunge is that it was still a thing until the mid 00’s so it lasted for a better part of a decade. Also, it was hard to ignore because it managed to sneak in hits into mainstream radio.
That wasn’t a problem with say, nu metal because it hardly had radio airplay (were there many crossover hits? I think Linkin Park was the closest one) and it didn’t really last for a fucking decade.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:38 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
pearl jam: Best artist who influenced the worst music
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link