I like Alphonse Pierre a lot
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 April 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link
https://cdn.vor.us/event/424740/og/e421819e71d340088bf24b588ef277da.image!png.2791898.png.IGLineUp_Static.png
https://wl.seetickets.us/event/Pitchfork-Music-Festival-2021/424740?afflky=PitchforkMusicFestival&sp=ALTXMW&utm_source=hive&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hive_email_id_66619&h_sid=033a84ad5a-5e32f3a9951ac441df7ef2bf&h_slt=eyJoYXNoIjoiY2JlNjBhYzc1OTlmNWIyIiwiaGl2ZV91c2VyX2lkIjozMzQzODczMX0%3d
― Indexed, Monday, 17 May 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link
How's Erykah Badu live?
prettttttttty gooooood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY2-mrsXgMM
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
it’s old but the mtv unplugged show is one of my favorite live things ever
― brimstead, Monday, 17 May 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
a few obvious highlights aside, not a great lineup overall imo, lots of "popular with p4k" acts that are good-to-fine on record but seem like not that exciting to catch live
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
Fantastic! Though not sure how her show would translate to a festival stage, tbh. Saw her in 2010 at the Chicago Theatre and it was an absolutely wonderful show.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
that's otm, i think, tho it's hard to say how good a lot of these newer acts who haven't played for a crowd this size due to covid will do
xp
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
Of the acts on the bill I've actually seen, the best was Hop Along, just because they had a bit of energy and their songs are very singalongable, but I wouldn't describe that show as particularly memorable.
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
tbh barely any artists are that good at playing to festival sized crowds, it's pretty much the worst way to see music
unless they are like U2 or beyonce or someone who knows how to handle it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
i've seen hop along three times, pretty good each time, but they had by far the most energy when i saw them shortly after the release of painted shut. didn't feel to me like they figured out to summon that spirit when playing the newer songs
― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
festivals are for hanging out with friends and hearing music in the background
― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 May 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link
i haven't been to a musical festival in forty years
Last time I saw AnCo at P4k they were actually quite good at filling the festival stage. Pitchfork is pretty darn small as far as festivals go. Not everything translates, but more does than you might expect. E.g., Jamila Woods brought the whole church band last time and it was a blast.
― Indexed, Monday, 17 May 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
i've seen badu at smaller and larger festivals and she's been great every timeshe's gonna show up late tho
― Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 03:35 (three years ago) link
DJ and Producer i_o’s Cause of Death Revealed
I can understand families not wanting people to assume suicide based on his age (or maybe to raise awareness about a particular disease/illness), but hiding/teasing the real answer behind a click like it's an album cover is pretty weird. (The answer: "The deadmau5 signee and Grimes collaborator died last year from complications caused by Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis.")
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 13:33 (three years ago) link
"Causes of Death for Semi-Famous DJs and Producers (you won't believe #7)"
― enochroot, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
"complications caused by Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis" maybe a little wordy for a headline, but I hear you on the tease implied by "Revealed".
― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
Here’s Everything that Happened at the Cause of Death Reveal Party
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
Wow, surprise move for Pitchfork to pull Chicago away from touring with Rick Springfield to headline! (Although it would be awesome to hear Chicago II in its entirety, especially the harmonies on 'Fancy Colours')
― Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Thursday, 20 May 2021 02:17 (three years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/reigning-sound-a-little-more-time-with-reigning-sound/
First paragraph of this review is ridiculous, calling out Greg Cartwright for once being in a band of alleged "edgelords" who, twenty six years ago had a song with a bad word in its title (a song not written by Greg, by the way). The guy has been releasing records with his own band for two decades. This is the lede? Really?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 21 May 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
pitchfork is just following the culture here. stories that drag up old controversies get clicks and drive engagement.
― treeship., Friday, 21 May 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link
this stuff getting called out 26 years late isn't deal but it's better than not at all. you can't give these bands and their enablers enough shit for this kind of thing
― Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 10:17 (three years ago) link
sorry this is a never living it down kind of situation, or should be
* not ideal not deal
― Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 10:18 (three years ago) link
But Pitchfork has reviewed the previous four RS albums without even mentioning this quarter century-old gaffe, so why effectively sink an album on the day of its release by dredging this up now?
And the thing is, the review is actually really good, in that it is a) positive (if unnecessarily snarky), and 2) well-written (many writers would kill to have written that cigarette-smoke-and-coffee-steam line). But there's no way this "Oblivians were actually Skrewdriver" angle isn't going to hurt what would have already been pretty meager sales. Not saying anyone should get a pass for using that word obviously, now or ever, but I still feel like it was an unnecessary cheap shot
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 21 May 2021 10:25 (three years ago) link
I assume because p4k came out of the same racist edgelord indie culture and no reviewer thought to bring it up before or it would have hit too close to home
the comparison isn't skrewdriver it's cocorosie or something idk
― Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 10:35 (three years ago) link
do they really have the power to sink albums these days
Gee I wonder if there's anything about the different reviewers that might clue us in here. Something that unlike the previous two reviewers might make Terry not dismiss the n-word as a "bad word"? Cool to get some white people's thoughts on the statute of limitations on racial slurs though, thanks, there hasn't been enough of that in our public discourse.
This thread's persistent desire to view pfork as some kind of totalitarian culture committee or treeship's relentless need to make a sadface at cancel culture can end up making you look pretty ignorant.
― rob, Friday, 21 May 2021 12:02 (three years ago) link
this stuff can sometimes irk but it didn't seem like a bad approach here - "note the offense, note how the artist's approach has changed, then go on to talk about the new record" as is done here seems perfectly fine to me
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 12:18 (three years ago) link
lmao at getting mad at this review
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link
yeah tbh it strikes me as an extremely fair & broadminded way of handling that, not ignoring, excusing or forgiving that stuff while also not defining him by it. the whole context of how & why its brought up in the review is to talk about the ways in which hes changed. a totally fair cop imo
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 21 May 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
yeah i didn't think it was unfair
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
This is like saying no one can ever say "in retrospect, naming a band 'Rapeman' was a bad idea" when talking about Steve Albini
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
Having checked out the song in question, Terry was, if anything, overly generous: the word's not just in the title, which that review kind of implies is the case
― rob, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
I was struggling to think of a good analogy but Albini is a good one.
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link
has albini talked about that any time recently? i vaguely remember it in Our Band Could Be Your Life, but it seemed to be not much more than wanting to shock people
― Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link
within circles that care about albini that exact sentiment is still v much a thing xps
― Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
that sucks.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link
the azerrad book was so uncritical (not just in his case) it pissed me off
his edgelord thing had a clear ideological edge to it which I'm sure he's keen to disavow now- but it's hard to miss unless you're really trying
― Left, Friday, 21 May 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
this is the most substantial conversation I've seen w Albini wrt these issueshttps://www.listenlistenlisten.org/stevealbini/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link
in general having talked to a lot of people who have worked with him, is he's sort of the inverse of a lot of "sensitive guy" indie creeps in that his public persona is problematic but people who know him seem to say great things about him personally (latter day Shellac/producer era Albini)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 May 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link
that's a very good interview, thanks!
― Karl Malone, Friday, 21 May 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
albini is legitimately confounding to me wrt this stuff. i think i posted elsewhere about seeing him go on a weird tirade of sexual insults at a female fan for talking at a shellac show a few years ago, and he definitely has been known to still throw around an n-bomb from time to time, in the context of "can you believe ignorant rappers say this?" but then other times like in that interview he can be super intelligent & insightful about allyship, he clearly thinks deeply about that stuff and cares a lot, but just seems to be saddled with some kind of weird compulsion leftover from the 80s re:"taboo language" where he just cant resist putting his hand on the hot stove from time to time. its so weird.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link
In an April 2020 interview on the Conan Neutron's Protonic Reversal podcast, Albini expressed regret for the name of the band, saying that he didn't feel he had been "held to account for being in a band called Rapeman". He added that "it was a flippant choice", calling it unconscionable and indefensible. He later likened it to getting a bad tattoo.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeman
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
The highest-profile promotion I've ever seen the Reigning Sound and Greg Cartwright receive is from Beto O'Rourke and Tom Scharpling, not the music press, so I'm not sure how much impact the Pitchfork review will have on their fortunes.
― Chris L, Friday, 21 May 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
Feel Like I Have To Defend Myself. 1 Idk Who The Fuck Steve Albino Is 2. I Dont 'Nigger Everything Insight' 3. I Never Say Fuck U To Drivers— Tyler, The Creator (@tylerthecreator) August 10, 2011
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 21 May 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
"Steve Albino" is still the funniest thing Tyler ever said
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
The History of Pitchfork's Reviews Section in 38 Reviews
They include the monkey pissing in its own mouth but somehow don't illustrate the piece with a picture of a dog licking its own balls. Oh well, at least there's this, from the intro:
For a large swath of time, the site was run mostly by middle-class white guys in their 20s and 30s, and a decent chunk of the taste and writing reflected that limited perspective.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link
And there is an ILX mention! (Check the Lizzo entry towards the end of the list.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link