The infinite regress
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 June 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
it would be more exciting if she made her mellon collie now in her new indie-singer/songwriter style, rather than re-releasing old music...
but a ten-minute version of all too well? sometimes quantity really is more important than quality. inject it directly into my veins.
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link
so much new music but we Swift fans are supposed to put more time into _another_ version of an album?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link
this album already had too many needless tracks
― dyl, Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link
Preorder is digital download format only? Why
― search term: buttrock (morrisp), Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link
I dunno, I can readily believe that she wrote a shitload of tracks that (a) didn’t make it; and (b) are better than several of the songs that were included. From a sales perspective it makes more sense to include a blah Gary Lightbody duet and a flawed-but-interesting Mazzy Star homage over a sixth and seventh flawless love song about Jake Gyllenhaal.
― Tim F, Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:45 (three years ago) link
― dyl, Saturday, June 19, 2021 12:49 AM (one hour ago)
wrong
anyway artists release expanded editions of albums w/ demos and b sides all the time, what's the big deal
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 June 2021 05:51 (three years ago) link
if the vault tracks for fearless hadn’t been mostly astonishing i’d be wondering myself, but
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 June 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link
*presses post**cackles maniacally*Level: casually cruel in the name of being honest pic.twitter.com/Tf0ahCMql8— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) August 5, 2021
― groovypanda, Thursday, 5 August 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
phoebe bridgers and chris stapleton to appear on red (taylor's version)
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
fairly good upgrade from Ed Sheeran and Snow Patrol guy
― bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 5 August 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
don't worry, ed sheeran will still be there
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 August 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
of course
― bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 5 August 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxrwjOtIag
10 minute "all too well" doesn't really justify its length but it's still great to hear. gorgeous & shimmering & she wrings endless new variations out of the melody
― ufo, Friday, 12 November 2021 07:16 (two years ago) link
the actual rerecordings of red are either ok (title track) or suck (i knew you were trouble). i still don't like this project
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link
i thought trouble and getting back together both sounded noticeably livelier and more fun on first listen... is she doing 1989 as well? that'd be insane. wildest dreams is a worldie
― maelin, Friday, 12 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
"All Too Well" is probably my favorite Swift song -- the one that made me fully confident that she was more than the current teen pop sensation.
I love this through about the 7 minute mark and am fully obsessed with the new lyrics!:
They say all's well that ends well/ but I'm in a new hell every time/ you double-cross my mind/ You say if we had been closer in age maybe it would have been fine/ and that made me want to die/ The idea you had of me who was she?/ A never-needy ever lovely jewel whose shine reflects on you/ Not weeping in a party bathroom/ some actress asking me what happened/ YOU. That's what happened. YOU.
― Indexed, Friday, 12 November 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
the brand new arrangement of "girl at home" is dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNckfN9upqo
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
her version of "better man" is also like... 1000x better than the little big town version? i think? someone confirm
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
"nothing new"... wow a long lost collection of devastating taylor swift lyrics from 2012, just what i wanted, brb crying forever
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
How long will it be cuteAll this crying in my roomWhen you can’t blame it on my youth And roll your eyes with affection And my cheeks are growing tired From turning red and faking smilesAre we only biding time till I lose your attention?And someone else lights up the room People love an ingénue
kick my ass taylor swift!!!!
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
Nothing new is definitely too good to have been shelved
Whether you prefer the re-recordings or OG is kinda besides the point here, I think, the genius of the project is that we, people around the world, will sit down again with her entire album discography - en masse- and really talk and listen to it. I don't know exactly how she'd be able to make these big events happen without the gimmick of the project. We re-appraise, we find new truths from different contexts, and for her, as a businesswoman, the breadth of her career is appreciated by more people and sells a lot more. Plus of course the extra EPs worth of new old songs. For something that does seem like it happened by accident, it's brilliant.
― abcfsk, Friday, 12 November 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
"message in a bottle" like the rerecorded "girl at home" is like an alt-universe version of taylor-going-pop, very refreshing
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
Didn't get into this when it came out but my kids are into it and I'm enjoying listening to it with fresh ears.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
I really rode hard for this album when it came out and can't say I've revisited it even once in the 8 or 9 years since. Big & Rich 2.0
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link
even the new ed sheeran duet ("run") is really good, lmao
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Just listened to Taylor's version of "Begin Again" and the original back to back, and I think I like this better than some of the earlier re-recordings, but I still feel like something of the freshness and immediacy of the original gets lost in the process of trying to copy her own vocals. It's still a beautiful song and it still sounds great, but to my ears the vocals in the original carry more of that sense of wonder and surprise and gratitude that makes the song so devastating.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
https://www.gawker.com/celebrity/taylor-swift-is-lying-about-all-too-well-10-minute-version-taylors-version
Author uses Google trends to prove Taylor could not possibly have heard the phrase "Fuck the Patriarchy" in 2011.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
Swift herself did not enter her feminista era until 2014.
.......lol
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link
yup, people can't say "fuck the patriarchy" on a record until they get their certified Feminist certificate in the mail, those are the rules, I don't make them, case closed.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
tumblr seems poorly indexed by google afaict xp
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
of course i have no way of proving that the phrase appeared there before then, but i would also bet tens of dollars on taylor swift having used tumblr in the early '10s
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link
And a "fuck the patriarchy" keychain wouldn't necessarily need to be widely sold and advertised on the internet in order to exist; it's the sort of thing that you can find at farmer's markets and street fairs and so on.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
TS officially joined tumblr in late 2014, but I’m sure she was on there earlier.
― suggest bainne (gyac), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, November 12, 2021 11:49 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
If this was Bob Dylan presenting some new song as an outtake from Blood on the Tracks, I'm pretty sure ppl would be chuckling about Dylan being a weirdo and teasing out all the Dylan masks not straight up calling him a liar.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
I don’t have a real view on it nor do I think it’s impossible for TS to be telling the truth on it, it’s just a flimsy reasoning to hang a piece on. I generally like new Gawker a lot fwiw.
― suggest bainne (gyac), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
the weird thing is if I were trying to single out a part of the song that feels like it was written later, it woudn't be the keychain thing at all, it would be the "just between us" part which reminds me of her folklore/evermore lyrical style.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy9r6xvGK1M
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link
I was totally on board with the ten-minute "All Too Well" until I got to the "Just between us" part. Not that any one addition felt all that necessary to me on its own, but the increasing epic OTT-ness of the emotion works well imo and I love all the details; that conversation with the actress in the bathroom is amazing vintage TS. But then she starts doing her vague mixed-metaphor thing and she loses me, right at the end.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
Has she actually claimed that all the add'l lyrics date from the time the song was written? (I'm not clicking on the Gawker article, perhaps it addresses this crucial point)
Listening to the 10-min. version now, I agree they don't necessarily seem to jibe with the OG lyrics; but I wouldn't think to call it out or GAF
― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link
Cycling back to the beginning of the bonus traxx (I'll hit up the main album afterward) – I prefer the original takes of "Moment I Knew" and "Come Back, Be Here," but I agree the new version of "Girl at Home" is cool!
― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
I remember reading something from a while back about how the original "All Too Well" was ten minutes long and had the f-word in it. I don't know if she's made any claims about not tinkering with the lyrics since, though.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
This new acoustic "State of Grace" is so nice...
― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link
this new version of all too well is sure is longer than the original
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link
Lol
― imago, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
I didn't really like the original All Too Well as much as most people seem to, I think because the turn at the end felt kind of pat and petty to me. Once it becomes a ferociously angry too-long epic, I like it better because it feels more raw and real; the shift from "I remember" to "you remember" feels less like carefully designed lyrical symmetry and more like something she has to tell herself to deal with all the anger.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
"I Bet You Think About Me" is awesome
― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 12 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
"Forever Winter," too... wow
― juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 12 November 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
She's gotta roll out a live version of this mega-All Too Well doesn't she? SNL or someone should give her a 10-minute block.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 12 November 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
I believe that's the plan.
the chorus of "Nothing New" keeps reminding me of early Counting Crows and I cannot figure out why. "Mr. Jones" maybe?
― Lily Dale, Friday, 12 November 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link