Same! Even some of the tracks I'd usually skip are decent.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link
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5 years ago today. one of the most timely releases in my life! this shit hit just right
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
This won “Best international album” at the Brits, that year.
It was somewhat glossed over on the tv coverage. To be fair, there were some unassailable reasons for that, but a bit more detail and some music from it would have been nice.
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link
What were the reasons?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
it's still scarcely believable how good this turned out
― imago, Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
in the context of a comeback, not in context of how good they were before
"We Got It from Here..." is easily in their top three best albums, and I will die on this hill.
― Lone Wanderer Mark II, Thursday, 11 November 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
Low End > Midnight > We Got It
Checks out.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 09:41 (two years ago) link
Low End is so clearly inferior to the other two, as a relative newcomer, imo
― imago, Friday, 12 November 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link
Hard disagree, as someone who grew up on them!
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 11:32 (two years ago) link
I'm giving We Got It From Here another listen and yes it's fantastic.
I'm not sure why I haven't listened to it more. Maybe when it came out the vocals felt low in the mix to me or something?
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 November 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link
Low End is the best one wtf xxpost
"Scenario", "Excursions", "Buggin' Out".....
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 November 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link
NOT NO PARKAY, NOT NO MARJARINESTRICTLY BUTTER BABY, STRICTLY BUTTER
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
Low End is the best one
otm
it's impossible to overrate.
the reunion album, while i do agree it was an inspiring miracle that it happened, was solidly decent and nothing more. if it was reviewed in the source magazine in 1995, it would have received four mics and i would have agreed with that.
now, midnight marauders on the other hand, that fucking album is overrated without merit. it's still good, and a hiphop classic, but it's not even the group's best album.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
midnight marauders and low end are very close, i prefer marauders but don’t really get worked up if someone prefers low end theory.
we got it from here is a five mic-er in my mind, but then again the source gave project pat’s ghetto green 2.5 mics so what do they know
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link
now, keep in mind, i'm time traveling with my source magazine ratings to a period when their ratings a) were fairly accurate and b) weren't reacting against anything except how they felt about the album being reviewed.
i think there's two firm tribe opinions that we can all agree on: 1) they were fucking rad and 2) that was a shame about the love movement, wasn't it?
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Friday, 12 November 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
haha OTM
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
There's a great album lurking somewhere within The Love Movement but that certainly isn't what we got
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:50 (two years ago) link
that's the only one I haven't heard to date.
I even like Beats, Rhymes, and Life a lot. doesn't quite hit the highs of the previous two, but it has "Stressed Out" on it, and "Phony Rappers".
also Consequence!
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
"Start It Up" and "Find A Way" are great, and then comes the creeping realization that nothing else on the album is going to be monochromatic refractions of those two songs with little to no percussive or melodic variation (aside from "Like It Like That") (I'm not including bonus tracks here, obv; the Spotify version elevates dramatically at "Scenario (remix)" and leaves you wondering why they put all of that bland beige shit on the album proper)
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 12 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
Nobody’s mentioned “Peoples instinctive travels” etc..
I have personal reasons for that one being my fav, and the best,etc.
Still though…..l
― Mark G, Friday, 12 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link
"Left My Wallet in El Segundo" is nice. it's good overall, but I feel like it's a mega leap from that to LET which is why it gets forgotten.
"Bonita Applebum" also classic
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
"There's a great album lurking somewhere within The Love Movement "
Great EP I'd say
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link
"Find My Way" bumps. The rest -- well, I've tried.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 November 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
Yeah the first three albums are all great, and We Got It From Here too, that was miraculous. Low End is still my favorite of the four, and I'd probably place We Got It From Here second - it's the only one I got to know when it came out, and given that moment in time & history, it feels all the more powerful.
They even made the 2017 Grammys memorable (at least for their performance):
https://vimeo.com/302978618
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:14 (two years ago) link
LET has always been my favorite as well. I’ve always found it odd that people rank MM above it, which feels like thinking Stankonia is better than Aquemini or something
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
In my head the production on Low End is really sparse compared to Marauders, which makes me question why I like it more. But then I listen to it and am reminded. Marauders actually feels a little overproduced by comparison
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 12 November 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link
It's splitting hairs for me but I prefer MM just because that's my peak era of hip hop production & engineering. LET set the bar and MM refined it. It's just a liiil more dense sonically yet still tight/focused. There's lil things popping into the mix or happening in the background which doesn't really happen in LET.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
Also prob biased because "Scenario" was never my fav to begin with and it's v played out, never need to hear it again
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 November 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
'overproduced' is a criticism that usually means I'll like something, lol
― imago, Friday, 12 November 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
Hah, I think Low End is Tribe's best and would call Stankonia OutKast's best.
― birdistheword, Friday, 12 November 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
Song for song I’ll take MM, there is not a bad track imo. As for LET you have songs like Rap Promoter and ..show businesses. Perhaps LET has the higher highs
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 12 November 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
Not like we haven’t gone through this exercise countless times lol
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 12 November 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link
re: beats, rhymes & life and the love movement—
i usually kind of think of br&l as even with midnight marauders. not because of anything other than i like them about the same. to me they're both 4.5-5 mic classics and i have never understood why br&l was considered disappointing. of course, i bought them at the same time (br&l's release date, to be exact) so i heard them both for first the time basically back to back. br&l was a smoother, slicker sound but to me it felt like the next logical step. i have always considered it classic, if for nothing else than it confirmed for me that dilla ("jay dee" / "the ummah" when working with q-tip at the time, of course) was THE guy to check for in the liner notes.
tlm was legitimately disappointing. songs with nore? really???? some solid beats, but yeah it felt like where the slickness of br&l was in line with the vibe, on tlm it was just . . . so *meh*. that said: "find a way", "like it like that", and "the love" are all top tier tribe and i would easily include them in a "best of" set. 3 mics, tops. and even that's generous. i never really counted the tracks after "rock rock ya'll" because they were all from older 12" singles, but they're all pretty much classic songs (except "money maker", which was just another disappointing new track).
trivia time:tlm was released the same day as aquemini. talk about passing the torch. anyway, i've always just assumed andre's verse on "rosa parks" was about the br&l disappointment backlash (`kinda sour cause my favorite group ain't comin' widdit`). wonder what he thought of the love movement.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Friday, 12 November 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link
BR&L has too many mid tempo moments for me to embrace.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 November 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link
📹
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link
LET is my fav Tribe LP but Electric relaxation might be my fav Tribe jam. After Hours is the best jam off the debut.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link
2nd the love for the instrumental
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link
haven't listened to TLM for such a long time, bought the fancy 3LP version the day it came out. I tried to love it but it never clicked outside of Find A Way (helped by the fact I already liked the Bebel/Towa Tei track it samples from). MM is my fav, that opening salvo of Biko and Award Tour never fails to make me smile.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link
The old lady saw us on the lawn with the HennyTurn the pool party into the one from McKinneyMight've been racist like the waitresses up in Denny’sSwore we had twelve gauges, automatics, and semisNow they wanna condemn me for my freedom of speech'Cause I see things in black and white like Lisa and ScreechPresidents get impeached and others fill in the throneBut veterans don’t get the benefit of feelin' at home
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 November 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
Was watching the Tribe doc again last night and had forgotten they'd done thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZrK39H5zp4
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Saturday, 20 November 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link
The “classical” cheese mellowed to the sounds of Mozart’s The Magic Flute. The “rock” cheese listened to Led Zeppelin’s “Stairway to Heaven.” An ambient cheese listened to Yello’s “Monolith,” the hip-hop cheese was exposed to A Tribe Called Quest’s “Jazz (We’ve Got)” and the techno fromage raved to Vril’s “UV.” A control cheese aged in silence, while three other wheels were exposed to simple high, medium and low frequency tones.According to a press release, the cheese was then examined by food technologists from the ZHAW Food Perception Research Group, which concluded that the cheese exposed to music had a milder flavor compared to the non-musical cheese. They also found that the hip-hop cheese had a stronger aroma and stronger flavor than other samples.
According to a press release, the cheese was then examined by food technologists from the ZHAW Food Perception Research Group, which concluded that the cheese exposed to music had a milder flavor compared to the non-musical cheese. They also found that the hip-hop cheese had a stronger aroma and stronger flavor than other samples.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hip-hop-and-mozart-improve-flavor-swiss-cheese-180971721/
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
Boy this cheese really has a lot of flavor
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 21 January 2022 16:51 (two years ago) link
back in the day when i was a teenagerbefore I had status and before I had a pagerYou could find the AbstractNibbling on SamsøMy pops used to say it reminded him of Tybo
I said "now daddy don't you know that things go in cycles?"way that Stilton cheese is just ampin like Stichel
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 January 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link
Seems like a poorly designed experiment to have the hip hop cheese exposed to a song with prominent jazz samples but no separate jazz cheese.
― BrianB, Friday, 21 January 2022 18:00 (two years ago) link
not sure if this experiment makes me happy or angry. either way, wow that's really stupid.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Friday, 21 January 2022 19:26 (two years ago) link
rude
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 21 January 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
Cheese just there vibing on some tunes and you gotta call it stupid
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 21 January 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link
Cheese (We've Got)
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 January 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link
Shorty let me tell you about my only viceIt has to do with coagulated milk and it ain't nothing nice
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 21 January 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link