I will never defend Fred Durst, he made that terrible Stalker movie with Travolta
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
also that story from sic does not surprise me, at fuckin' all. fuuuuuck Fred.
B-b-b-b-but, Neanderthal, we're all supposed to love Fred and Limp Bizkit now, didn't you get the memo?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
To be clear, I'm not defending Durst for any crimes, just pointing out that the Woodstock '99 comparison made by Breihan doesn't make sense.
But Travis Scott didn’t kill eight people. I would put that blame elsewhere.
No one lined people against a wall and "killed" them; there were various degrees of negligence involved. Hpefully the investigation and lawsuits will get at the specifics. Breihan wants to let Scott off the hook and place all the blame on the "promoters." I get the impulse of being wary about blaming an artist, but it doesn't seem to fit here.
― juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I was just adding another note of that comparison seeming off-base.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
xpost you should see stan Twitter, all saying this is normal for big shows. you just let 10 or more people die, it's good business.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
the big problem at the Who show was they opened doors late
That's a good point. At least at the Silverdome they opened the doors very early, like 3 in the afternoon. So anxiety levels weren't as high as they could have been.
― henry s, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link
reading the contingency planning docs makes live nation look even worse
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21100364/cnn-astroworld-operations-plan-redacted.pdf
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
Notify Event Control of a suspected deceased victim utilizing the code “Smurf”. Never use theterm “dead” or “deceased” over the radio.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
Not at all shocked to know they'd use a code word, of course, but, really? "Smurf"?
"man get over here, this dude is totally smurf"
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
"They're smurfing each other to death over by Tower Three!"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
smurfed as in turned blue i suppose :(
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
She's smurfy. Wrapped in plastic.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
unperson, I believe that would be, "They're smurfing each other to smurf over by Tower Three!"
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link
smurfing in the name of
― weregoats of boston (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
crowdsmurfing
the smurf thing is the most obviously grotesque thing, but the multiple supposed structures that were to be in place were almost 100% not implemented at all
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link
Smurfin' USA
(sorry)
― weregoats of boston (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
xpost nowadays it's sufficient to talk about the things you're going to do, but apparently you don't have to actually do them.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
Finner discusses comments he made about security guard who might have OD'ed - said he was struck in the head. No one injected drugs in him.— St. John Barned-Smith ⚔️ (@stjbs) November 10, 2021
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
smurf...code blue...meh
― DT, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
So if no-one was injecting drugs into strangers, is it still unusual that a lot of the fatalities were apparently due to cardiac arrest?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:01 (two years ago) link
not when you're crushed and asphyxiating, no
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link
all nine people at Rockskilde died of cardiac arrest
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link
Neadnerthal otm, I keep seeing people conflating cardiac arrest with heart attack, which aren't the same at all. Not saying you Halfway, but esp on Twitter I keep seeing people saying, "don't you think it's suspicious that so many people had heart attacks??? there is more to the story we haven't heard".
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link
i'm just struggling w/ why so many people I know literally don't get the mechanics of a crowd surge. like I get not everybody was the concertgoer I was pre-pandemic but it's like the feeling of standing with your feet not being on ground, lurching in both directions in a sea of people and trying to stay upright, with zero body autonomy.
and nobody's conducting the train, it's like a tug of war and nobody knows who is on either team
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
My wife says ppl on social media are spreading rumors about a satanic ritual being involved or something? JFC...
― juristic person (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link
heh yeah that too. cos we need a Michelle Remembers 2 by winter
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah the social media discussion around this is absolutely deranged, on the level of middle-school rumors.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
I mean, the posters and set design and the rest lean unabashedly into occult kitsch, so it’s fair enough that people take that seriously, in the way people would if someone died at an Ozzy concert in his prime.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link
Rode past the concert site last night on my way to work. Due to the investigation, they haven't yet taken down the stages or a good bit of the tents etc. It's quite eerie, particularly the main stage, which backs right up on the Main St. fence, and easily visible to anyone passing by.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
one of the worst festival line-ups i saw recently was for travis scott's "astroworld". my heart just about stopped when i saw who was playing :O
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
FP
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link
too soon?
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
feel like such a heel for laughing but...i did.
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
One of the hospitalized victims has died, bringing the death toll to 9.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
Hospitalized 9-year-old dies, death count now 10.
https://abc13.com/astroworld-festival-tragedy-ezra-blount-child-injured-at-travis-scott-concert-2021/11236835/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 November 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
It’s very sad, and I’m surprised children were there. Are festivals typically all-ages?
― heterologous booster (morrisp), Monday, 15 November 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
Usually. You have to remember that this particular event was presented as being a kinda-sorta family friendly event, with amusement park rides and a carnival midway. I can imagine alot of tickets were gifted as birthday or early Christmas presents.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 November 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link
most festivals are all-ages, aren't they? unless we're talking like small-time punk festivals at one bar or something.
i can't think of any big festivals like this that are/would be 21+.
― alpine static, Monday, 15 November 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link
That’s interesting; I don’t remember seeing kids when I attended a fests back in the day, and they wouldn’t have seemed like an environment for children. Lots of drunk adults, rowdiness, etc. Not to put the blame on people who brought kids, I’m just surprised they were there.
― heterologous booster (morrisp), Monday, 15 November 2021 03:56 (two years ago) link
(I’ve seen kids at seated stadium concerts, of course)
― heterologous booster (morrisp), Monday, 15 November 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
maybe they are different elsewhere in the world, but the big ones i've been to have all been kid-friendly, i think.
9 years old, went to a concert and died. so sad.
― alpine static, Monday, 15 November 2021 07:18 (two years ago) link
They removed Travis Scott as a Coachella headliner, but don't worry, Rage Against the Machine is still there, which means there will be plenty of chill music for the packed crowd to relax to.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
read that as Travis Tritt
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 13 December 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
I'd be down for Travis Tritt at Coachella
― DT, Monday, 13 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
They could troll Travis Scott by just featuring bands and people named Travis. Travis Tritt, Travis Barker, Travis, Randy Travis ...
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 December 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
i'd be down for Hologram GG Allin
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 December 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
holographic piss
― DT, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link