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― Goofy the Grifter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 December 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
"hope he's on the 'stairway to heaven'" added _zep_mom_9456
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 3 December 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
Heh
― Goofy the Grifter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
Surprised Plant only has 615,000 Instagram followers (seems low)
― katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
surprised he has that many! i bet whatever the led zep insta is has far more
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
Zep has 1.4 million followers. But does Plant post a lot? Pete Townshend only has just under 68,000 Instagram followers, but rarely posts more than once every few months. (But he has the best handle: @yaggerdang)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 December 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link
Hot off the heels of her successful comeback album, I'm in Love, Evelyn "Champagne" King was in her commercial prime when Get Loose hit stores in 1982. One of the earliest R&B/funk female vocalists to use the music video medium (for 1981's "I'm in Love"), she was frequently on airwaves in the early '80s with songs found here like "Love Come Down" and "Betcha She Don't Love You." The romantic lyrics and celestial keyboard layerings against a steady funk beat on "Love Come Down" were expertly layed down by Kashif, who would become a prominent R&B producer and artist in his own right. His stamp is also on many of the album's other cuts, though Morrie Brown is the album's actual producer. "Betcha" is another unique number -- a down-paced dancefloor ditty with a rock-friendly chorus and vocal arrangement. Meanwhile the title track is a colorful up-tempo number that hearkens back slightly to 1977's "Shame." Equally appealing are the refined "Back to Love" and "I'm Just Warmin' Up," the album's soothing closer. King sounds fresh and stylish throughout, making Get Loose one of her strongest efforts.
layed
(the review is fine btw. just . . . "layed" lol)
― please don't refer to me as (Austin), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
this song fucks... LITERALLY
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 18:34 (two years ago) link
expertly even
― please don't refer to me as (Austin), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
John McWhorter bravely takes on the cultural elites of 1920s Vienna: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/opinion/classical-music.html
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link
"Audiences have resisted Dvorak’s call for American classical music to flourish based on our own homegrown substrate, Native American and, especially, Black music" Guess how many Native American or Black composers he goes on to at least name-check:— Will Mason (@willmasonmusic) April 26, 2022
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link
That was horrible, my god.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link
Anyone can Op-Ed
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link
Got all I needed from Darcy James Argue’s tweet.
Taste aside, it's very weird for a few reasons: he seems to associate all 'ugly' classical music with the 12-tone method, which is just one specific system of pitch organization and not a terribly fashionable one, nor even the basis of all atonal music. He writes as if 12-tone music enjoys some kind of hegemony in classical music venues, unsupported by any evidence other than something he sang in choir 30 years ago, which is so far removed from the reality of concert programming in the US as to seem insane. He uses an approx 70yo quote from Boulez, ignoring Boulez's own subsequent development, which includes conducting a lot of the standard orchestral repertoire. And there is a total refusal to even engage with the intentions of 'ugly' music composers, just assuming some objective and highly reactionary standard of beauty. Linking Schoenberg's Variations, hardly an incomprehensible piece, and saying "hardly the William Tell Overture" is mind-boggling.
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link
Even "Native American and Black music", to which he pays no more than lip service, is not always 'beautiful' in the same way as the William Tell Overture.
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:25 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link
"I like pretty classical! And show tunes!" would have been the basis for a perfectly fine essay all on its own if he didn't have to build himself a strawman to beat up first. Hell, he could have gone in a really interesting direction by talking about how ideas pioneered by serialists and other mid-century avant-gardists were borrowed by Hollywood for the soundtracks to sci-fi and horror movies. But no, he had to make the dumbest, knee-jerk, shorthand rhetorical leaps available, ones that just make him seem like he hasn't listened to any forward-looking composed music made since the 1950s. I'd love to sit him down with some of Anna Thorvaldsdottir's CDs, for example. That shit is weird, forbidding, and beautiful, but having to think about it would probably break his brain.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYVymFmL88
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link
i used to try to listen to his language podcast occasionally but had to stop bc half the time he would just end up talking about musicals & playing endless clips of crappy forgotten broadway junk. he should hook up with the "punk rock is bullshit" guy aka bean dad and they can do a substack about how only normal regular stuff is good.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link
had never heard of this dude before. took a gander at his wikipedia page. jesus christ
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah he's a bit of a piece of work.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link
In his book The indispensable composers, critic Anthony Tommasini wrote about how, when he was a composition student in the early 70s, anything that wasn't twelve-tone composition was looked down upon by his peers as outmoded or pandering. Are there similar "rules" in academic music now, or have post-modernism and other cultural shifts opened up the field?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:04 (two years ago) link
This bugs me too, musical traditionalists/conservatives keep railing against a 100 year old idiom no one writes in anymore. Schoenberg really bothers these people in a way that I can’t completely eliminate anti-Semitism as a motivating factor.
― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:14 (two years ago) link
Halfway there, the climate at institutions varies a lot and someone who studies with Moor Mother at CalArts will probably have a different experience than someone who studies with Ferneyhough at Stanford but it would be hard for me to overstate how far I think the overall academic composition climate is from some kind of serialist or modernist hegemony. (NB there are also programmes like SUNY Purchase, which produced Regina Spektor and Mitski, among others.) I taught at a progressive New England liberal arts college for a few years and supervised a lot of hip-hop, EDM, indie rock, etc projects. The thing is that I suspect that for the McWhorters of the world, ANY modernist presence would be too much.
Fwiw, in this piece, Tommasini (who afaik never majored in composition) considers the other side wrt even the 50s-early 70s: https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/09/arts/music-midcentury-serialists-the-bullies-or-the-besieged.html?pagewanted=all . I can share the Straus article he mentions if there is interest. His own recollections btw are based on a few anecdotes from one institution. I'm also not sure being looked down on by one's peers constitutes a 'rule'.
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
You're right about his major, he studied piano.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:09 (two years ago) link
musical traditionalists/conservatives keep railing against a 100 year old idiom no one writes in anymore
There are a lot of political "scholars" who have apparently only ever observed three elections: Nixon in 1972, Reagan in 1984, and Clinton in 1992.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:09 (two years ago) link
Almost read that guy's The Language Hoax once, but something made me think better of it.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link
I read Doing Our Own Thing. It was...OK. The actual linguistic stuff was interesting, but when he let himself slip too far into social prescriptiveness it got silly. (But no sillier than David Foster Wallace's essay on AAVE.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
Can we also take a moment to marvel at this passage?
there are warehouses full of sophisticated and complex, but easily lovable, classical music, some we don’t hear because of an association with ignominious regimes.As Mauceri writes, “Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin had stylistic demands that would give an official sound to their regimes.” In all three of their countries, “they silenced non-tonal and 12-tone music along with anything that might be considered experimental.” In Italy, music in the grand opera tradition à la Verdi was embraced by officialdom, but later tainted by association. In Russia, explains Mauceri, Stalin dictated a policy favoring “Socialist Realism — music that was defiantly not experimental.” The renowned composers Prokofiev and Shostakovich walked a fine line “between approbation and annihilation.” Lesser-known composers such as Dmitri Kabalevsky, Aram Khachaturian and others are now performed very little. (In the gabby, showstopping song “Tschaikowsky” from the 1941 Broadway musical “Lady in the Dark,” a long list of Russian composers, many of whom we’ve hardly heard from, are rattled off.)Mauceri writes: “As the generations have passed, a source of these aesthetic judgments — the racial policies of the Nazis and the Fascists and the war against Soviet Communism — has been forgotten, and postwar aesthetic conclusions have been accepted as objective. And after having removed so much music and so many composers from our lives, what have we gotten in return?”
As Mauceri writes, “Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin had stylistic demands that would give an official sound to their regimes.” In all three of their countries, “they silenced non-tonal and 12-tone music along with anything that might be considered experimental.” In Italy, music in the grand opera tradition à la Verdi was embraced by officialdom, but later tainted by association. In Russia, explains Mauceri, Stalin dictated a policy favoring “Socialist Realism — music that was defiantly not experimental.” The renowned composers Prokofiev and Shostakovich walked a fine line “between approbation and annihilation.” Lesser-known composers such as Dmitri Kabalevsky, Aram Khachaturian and others are now performed very little. (In the gabby, showstopping song “Tschaikowsky” from the 1941 Broadway musical “Lady in the Dark,” a long list of Russian composers, many of whom we’ve hardly heard from, are rattled off.)
Mauceri writes: “As the generations have passed, a source of these aesthetic judgments — the racial policies of the Nazis and the Fascists and the war against Soviet Communism — has been forgotten, and postwar aesthetic conclusions have been accepted as objective. And after having removed so much music and so many composers from our lives, what have we gotten in return?”
If I understand correctly, the argument is i) we don't get to hear composers like Orff, Verdi, and the "lesser known" Khatchaturian (composer of this obscurity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_Dance) and are overwhelmed with 12-tone music ii) the reason is cancel culture iii) because of these composers' associations with fascist and Stalinist regimes iv) (which got a lot wrong but basically had the right take on classical music, since they endorsed these 'beautiful' composers and silenced 'ugly' music). (Tbc McWhorther doesn't say we should go as far as state repression; he's just concerned about the current dominance of atonality and the repression of beauty.) Every step of that is incredible.
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:23 (two years ago) link
Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it's an aesthetic.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
Has there been any large-scale attempt to "cancel" Wagner (more recently than Nietzsche)?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:29 (two years ago) link
The Met went all in on Wagner during the pandemic:
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/gig-alerts/episodes/wagner-week-nightly-met-opera-streams
https://www.metopera.org/user-information/nightly-met-opera-streams/week-30/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/01/arts/music/met-opera-meistersinger-wagner.html
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:37 (two years ago) link
Dave Edmunds would like a word:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpqYU3Nzbts
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:51 (two years ago) link
Twelve Tone good, Two Tone better:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEPfSWk0Lsw
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:06 (two years ago) link
Ross has written about how right after WW2, there was a deliberate effort in Europe, especially in West Germany under the occupation US military government, to suppress some of the Romantic/post-Romantic Germanic music loved by the Nazis and promote avant-garde music that challenged that tradition as well as Jewish composers, so e.g. the Darmstadt school got some covert funding from the US military early on. As far as I know, though, there was no comparable attempt made in North America, where Hitler's and Mussolini's faves have always had a wide audience (as far as classical audiences go) and concert hall presence.
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:17 (two years ago) link
This is all bringing to mind a long ago Concert in the Park I was at which was interrupted in mid-performance– on the 4th of July? before the 1812 Overture? – by a stage invader who said a few words before he was escorted off the stage that I remember as “Wagner, I miss you.” This in protest of the perceived under-programming of his favorite composer.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:54 (two years ago) link
Found it! https://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/28/arts/music-parks-series-opens-with-bang.html
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:58 (two years ago) link
”When he first came on stage, I was in shock,'' said John Nelson, the conductor. ''But there was nothing harmful about him.'' ''He kept shouting, 'Herr Richard Wagner, where are you?''' said Charles Rex, the associate concertmaster, who contributed some impressively lush, secure violin solos to ''Scheherazade'' - and who repeated the final pages with aplomb after Mr. Aybar had been removed.
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:05 (two years ago) link
Also note the ad for Edie, by Jean Stein. #onethread
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:08 (two years ago) link
Feel like "Herr Richard Wagner, where are you?" is the new "tell that to your new leader, Sting!"
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:04 (two years ago) link
The whole piece reminded me of taking my grandmother to a contemporary art exhibition when I was 14, and having her say “I don’t understand why people don’t make beautiful things any more.” The woman was a member of the Communist Party for thirty years and didn’t under shit about art.How can anyone expect a bootlicker like McWhorter to be any better? He might be the worst of the Times columnists afaic, up there with the conservative white dude crue.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 30 April 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link
This reminds me of that old Guy Tavares interview
― Xii, Monday, 2 May 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link
https://www.music-news.com/news/UK/148730/Morrissey-remains-centrestage-as-he-turns-63
What a god amongst us all....
― Mark G, Thursday, 19 May 2022 09:49 (two years ago) link
This week - 22nd May, to be precise – music legend Morrissey will be celebrating his 63rd birthday. It's almost inconceivable to staunch critics that the artist has been able to remain so revered, relevant and respected for so long. In the somewhat fickle world of entertainment, to attain the kind of longevity Morrissey has, is an almost impossible feat. Impossible for some, clearly not for the singer himself, who has been releasing music for four decades and who continues to draw vast crowds in the live aren
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2022 10:00 (two years ago) link
😬
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:29 (two years ago) link
a big scoop for music-news.com
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:55 (two years ago) link
Imagine releasing music and touring in your early sixties. Never been done.
― Nabozo, Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link
Morrissey's dedication to music is only surpassed by his devotion to racism
― mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:13 (two years ago) link
It would be hard for even his most stubborn opponents to deny Morrissey possesses that extra “something” - that unique charisma and energy that keeps generations of music-lovers queueing at the barriers. Morrissey fills arenas, theatre stages and festival line-ups around the world, even after 40 years in the business. Looking back to those heady days of The Smiths, where his
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― Mark G, Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:39 (two years ago) link