I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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Oh, and war mice..

They would have written more/different songs if they had continued, not necessarily ones they did solo.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Xpost the latest intelligence suggests they did not know it was their last.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

The Beatles & Heather McCartney 😍 #TheBeatlesGetBack pic.twitter.com/rUU4nGhnwu

— get back, kristen! (@swaying_daisies) November 27, 2021

pplains, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:09 (two years ago) link

(and okay fine Ringo)

Sure, no one’s gonna mount a serious defense of Ringo’s solo records (though “It Don’t Come Easy” and “Back Off Boogaloo” are up there with any solo Beatle singles), but from 1970-74 he had no fewer than eight top 10 US hits. That’s as many as Paul, and more than John and George combined in that period. And three of those hit #1 — George had one #1, and John had two.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link

I'm not dissing Ringo! I'm saying he had a solo career because what else was he going to do. His burning ambition was to drum for the Beatles forever, and why not?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

and, yes, a couple of his solo hits are fantastic

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

Ringo's "Early 1970" is a really charming b-side.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link

No one seems to like "Blindman" but me

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:36 (two years ago) link

Also, "That'll be the day" proved he could act, you forget it's Ringo

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

I'm not dissing Ringo! I'm saying he had a solo career because what else was he going to do. His burning ambition was to drum for the Beatles forever, and why not?

Good point, and yeah, he always said that all he wanted to do was play with great musicians. I wish his career had also included anonymous (or not) drumming appearances on other artists’ records, like maybe playing on a few Dylan albums, or a few sessions with Stevie Wonder.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:45 (two years ago) link

Agree!! I always wish more for drummers who have only played (primarily) with one band their entire drumming lives, even if it's the Beatles!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

Oh, and war mice..

They would have written more/different songs if they had continued, not necessarily ones they did solo.

Oh for sure. The idea isn’t to create a perfect what-if scenario, but a plausible one … and one that gives us a facsimile of a satisfying Beatle experience in a way that the solo records can’t/shouldn’t/don’t.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

I wish his career had also included anonymous (or not) drumming appearances on other artists’ records, like maybe playing on a few Dylan albums, or a few sessions with Stevie Wonder.

He kinda did do this, working with Nilsson, Tom Petty and others.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link

True…but beyond Nilsson and Petty (and his appearance in The Last Waltz maybe) I can’t think of many other instances of Ringo as a session player. Unless there’s a bunch I’ve missed.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link

One of my favorite '70s Ringo things: playing the Pope against Roger Daltrey & Lil' Nell Campbell in Lisztomania (clip NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl22fsSCBkI

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link

I am trying to figure out why this show is so successful. I guess the beginning of the show is so dire, you instantly connect that with the breakup, and even though things improve in Part 2, you aren't expecting something quite so cathartic as their reactions to playing live again on the rooftop concert.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link

I think it's the startling intimacy of it. We mostly knew the Beatles as icons, and after watching the show we now know them as human beings to a far greater extent than was imaginable.

Secondarily, everyone knew those songs as classic tunes that have simply always existed, and to see them being shaped into form is another unexpected dose of reality.

Josefa, Friday, 17 December 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

And, like, it's the literal Beatles.

The one time I saw any of them in concert was Paul at Bonnaroo in '13, and I was excited about the show but I was unprepared for him opening with "Eight Days a Week" — it just suddenly hit me, oh he's a BEATLE.

Something like Get Back would also be awesome with any number of other bands, especially if it was a band you liked or loved, but it still wouldn't be the Beatles.

man, that makes me want to actually want to see him in concert. and i've never done the thing of splurging on tickets to see a big arena-scale "legend" act. but I bet it'd be pretty cool, right? i mean, he was a BEATLE! i get it.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

One of the first concerts I went to was McCartney. Treated myself because I was finally on my own and making money, and I thought, "what's stopping me?" (I almost never went to concerts before, it was drilled in me that they were too costly.) And for a diehard Beatle fan who had listened to them endlessly for close to a decade, it was mindblowing. The best part was walking out through the parking lot and running into Paul's bus, just crawling along as he stood in the front honking the horn, waving at every, single, person, looking them straight in the eye, including me. For a second, it was like 1965 and I was ready to scream into infinity. I never felt better on my way home from a show.

birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link

that's so great!

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 December 2021 05:03 (two years ago) link

beautiful bird

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 17 December 2021 06:51 (two years ago) link

<3 that is so cool

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 December 2021 06:52 (two years ago) link

My mum (not a concert goer) bought tickets for Macca (including one for me unprompted) because it's bloody Paul McCartney. Best song of the night: Back in the USSR.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 17 December 2021 08:10 (two years ago) link

Just watched Get Back (though it seems y'all have moved on a bit from discussing it). My wife gave up 30 minutes into the doc, and I almost did when Paul read through the entire tabloid article in a funny voice, but it was worth sticking through till the end. Part 3 was incredible, as I had not seen anything more than a few clips of the rooftop concert before, did not know there was police involved, etc. Parts 1 and 2 were too long, but I can see that everyone has their own moments they like. I personally would cut more than half the moments they goof around on covers but I'm sure a lot of people love that stuff

i wish any of their previous eight albums had gotten this treatment instead of this one

yeah, seriously. or Abbey Road. it's fascinating to see "Get Back" and "The Long and Winding Road" evolve, but they're also two of my least favorite Beatles singles

Vinnie, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:33 (two years ago) link

is there much more in-studio footage out there? I know this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrb1vFTtJI

Number None, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:23 (two years ago) link

i loved all the times they tried to work out “two of us” electrically before they brought out the acoustic guitars and realized they should’ve been playing it that way all along

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 17 December 2021 11:16 (two years ago) link

I think they were asking for non-Get Back recordings?

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Friday, 17 December 2021 12:40 (two years ago) link

There’s also this in-studio footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA1mSTa5xIA

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 December 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

I recently completed a Beatles marathon listening session, using a playlist I put together which lists their work chronologically by the date on which recording first started for each song. [...]

― mike t-diva

Just wanted to say thanks for this!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

I think Ringo turns up briefly on Shot of Love.

JoeStork, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

On "Heart of Mine."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Mediocre track and Dylan and his producer knew it at the time. The song was always a bit of fluff, but they cut a good master before Ringo stopped by and they more or less jammed with him on this song. Dylan openly admitted that they chose a take with Ringo despite the inferior quality simply because he played on it.

birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

Or I should say, Ringo, Ronnie Wood and Duck Dunn...like it was an all-star recording, hence the speculated "appeal," but it was worse than what they had.

birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 18:42 (two years ago) link

Oh God, I've just acquired the Mono box set. What took me so long? I wasn't prepared for the gut punch of hearing Help! the way I heard it growing up (albeit without the scratches). Who knew a mix could be a madeleine? It does sound so good though – much more muscular than the stereo version I've put up with for years.

Alba, Friday, 17 December 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

Woohoo! Revolver absolutely sings in mono too. Has an adrenaline lacking in the fussy stereo.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 17 December 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

Welcome to the church, Alba.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 17 December 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

That mono box is truly amazing. I'm glad Apple wound up pressing a lot more copies, it may be out-of-print but it's not too hard to find for a reasonable price.

birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

Presumably you're talking about the CD version there. The vinyl mono box goes for astronomical sums.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 17 December 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

Ah, yes, that's what I meant! Too bad about the vinyl, but maybe they'll bring those back in-print? (It's weird that it's easier to get Giles's remixes on vinyl than the original mono.)

birdistheword, Friday, 17 December 2021 23:10 (two years ago) link

I'm late to the party, just watching Get Back now. Just got to the part where Paul sings "I'm So Tired" and literally screamed. This thing is uncut heroin.

J. Sam, Saturday, 18 December 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link

Just rewatched the rooftop concert and one of the best moments of the entire 8 hours is when Paul looks over his shoulder and sees the cops, gives a little hoot, and starts putting extra sauce on everything.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Saturday, 18 December 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

About 3/4 of the way through watching it & have to jam out for the night. It’s been so great. I can’t imagine Suzy Creamcheese being all over this - can’t fathom why it hasn’t been widely panned, it’s so ramshackle and would have to be dull as fuck for a non-fanatic (not to mention so many off-key performances) - but I want the 56 hours of raw tapes, fuck it, gimme it all. I really understand now why George got fed up & left - the whole Beatle thing is John & Paul playing and performing for and at and to each other, & the other 2 are so often cut out of the bubble of those guys’ love and rivalry.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 18 December 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link

Also LOVING Mal Evans just writing down lyrics & changes to lyrics constantly so nobody has to break the creative flow. Underrated contributor.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 18 December 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

yeah that was awesome. note takers consistently underrated team members.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 December 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

A small point of confusion which no doubt has a trivial explanation: when they first go on the roof they have to climb a six foot plus high wall, actually bodily dragging Michael lindsay-hogg up it. Then when it comes to the performance they just walk out of a door...

big online yam retailer (ledge), Saturday, 18 December 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

I think someone pointed out that that higher roof was part of the building next door and therefore they would be trespassing to be on it

Josefa, Saturday, 18 December 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

You could be right - Ringo just says "what happens if we do it on top of the other roof" but it's not clear what roof he's talking about, maybe they just climbed up to get to the highest vantage point even though the gig location was always going to be the larger part of the roof lower down. I think it probably is the building next door they climb up to, the red brick structure they climb up beside - and perform in front of - is no longer there in google maps, and the building next door has been redeveloped, but the greenhouse is still there.

big online yam retailer (ledge), Saturday, 18 December 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link

For me the strange thing about the gig is that as far as they can tell they're performing to almost no-one. There's no way they can see down to the street, almost everyone directly in front of them is a cameraman or techie of some kind.

big online yam retailer (ledge), Saturday, 18 December 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Xp to self just seen another view (live tweeting here) and the roof they climb up to is definitely the building next door.

big online yam retailer (ledge), Saturday, 18 December 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link


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