it climbed six spots to #19 on rap/r&b! maybe this week it will catch "ice cream paint job"!
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
if you're putting more stock in the iTunes store than radio adds then that's your first problem. anyway, not saying it's a smash, but it's clearly still growing, and ever week i hear it more. didn't soulja boy's last couple hits taking 6 months to peak make your year and here you are not understanding how long some songs take to really impact radio?
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe def jam has, let's say, more reasonable expectations for a fabolous album
― goole, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
uh the guy had a top 10 hit and a top 20 hit off his last album and managed to get these two on the cover of xxl so i would say that they have, let's say, pretty high expectations for a fabolous album
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
idn't soulja boy's last couple hits taking 6 months to peak make your year and here you are not understanding how long some songs take to really impact radio?
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah im sure def jam will be psyched for fabolous' lead single to peak in jan 2010
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah Def Jam is throwing out albums with zero promotion all over the place this summer (Ace Hood, Willy Northpole, Unladylike), but Fab is practically a big deal compared to those releases, even if just on a relative scale. still, his last album had a huge single and just barely went gold, so stakes aren't high. I'm just saying, I wouldn't be surprised at all of "Throw It" is top 10 in a few weeks.
xpost
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean you might be right but even if it sneaks into the top 10 of hip hop/r&b a week or two after his album drops would that still not be considered a flop? a collabo w/ the dream after what the two singles from his last album did?
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Unladylike
this one is really good btw
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
well it depends where it peaks, obviously, but slow rising songs aren't flops, they're sleeper hits. and anyway my point was just it's funny how often you dramatically call something a "major" flop while i'm still hearing it every time i get in the car.
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
well whatever we don't have rap radio here, so fine ill take your word for it - it's certainly a disappointment at least
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
certainly
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i mean, i think the-dream is still really punching above his weight class in a lot of ways, as far as being featured on an established artist's lead single, getting on multiple magazine covers, trying to get kanye to do a whole album with him -- he really just doesn't have that juice yet and it feels like he's trying to force it to happen as quickly as the songwriting thing happened for him.
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i agree - i mean im not surprised vibe folded if they gave the-dream & milian a cover (did i already post that somewhere else?)
― autotune the jews (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean he and his albums definitely have a more diehard following (not just talking about this thread) than a lot of gold-selling R&B singers, but he needs to come to the realization that "single ladies" or whatever going to #1 doesn't automatically boost his career as a performer xpost
― stupidcrazyswagilisticjumpininyaladyocious (some dude), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but I orig. dled love/hate based on reading it was by the Umbrella dude so there's that too.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, obviously it's a big factor in him having a career and people taking an interest in him -- i'm just saying that him writing a #1 doesn't elevate his profile nearly the way it would if he recorded a #1
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
that Milian song suuuuuucks.
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
yes it does
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
ATTN ALL STANS
RnBGorilla Love King should be out by December this year. It is currently on schedule for release December 8th.about 1 hour ago from web
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 July 2009 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
aka "man i can't wait for march 2010"
he claims he's retiring after Love King
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 24 July 2009 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link
new track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VoHI3n5niw&feature=related
<3 this one
― bare grills (tpp), Sunday, 9 August 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
get that shit on the radio asap
― we make rub' dongs from 4" to 6" (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 August 2009 23:51 (fourteen years ago) link
how old is that? i know i've heard that chorus before
I think it's about six months old. He ended up giving it to Lionel Richie.
― pearsonic, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lphLx2OENtE
haha this is great but it's pretty funny how much dream's personality/personal style shows in this song. verses sound a lot like "so good"
― we make rub' dongs from 4" to 6" (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 August 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
err most dream compositions sound like his because he has a very specific and identifiable formula
i feel like it must be demoralizing for lionel richie to do an album full of songs written by ne-yo and the-dream. or maybe he just laughs and says to them "y'know, i used to be you."
― some dude, Monday, 10 August 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
he's old tho
― we make rub' dongs from 4" to 6" (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 August 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty sure shaffer wrote for his last album too
― kenan & keller (The Reverend), Monday, 10 August 2009 07:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think shaffer has quite the same ring as terius
― crutboard dudes get subway, totally (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 August 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
the terius version is a better song but i think it 'works' better as a lionel richie track if that makes sense - the lyrics are so swathy ("the rain will turn into change") that it fits the sort of all encompassing AC dentist office blandness that richie brings
― crutboard dudes get subway, totally (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 August 2009 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i do like both versions of that song a lot
― some dude, Monday, 10 August 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP0SKZI0wHM
― tickle me imo (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 August 2009 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
production sounds a bit undercooked but it's got a really good hook i think - chorus melody is great too
― tickle me imo (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 August 2009 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes the original question becomes problematic for me.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 15 August 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
"i'm not ok" is like top 5 dream-written songs of the year for me
― king dom, come (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ Completely agree. Not sure why it works so well, but that melody is beautiful.
― pearsonic, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
for a second I thought The-Dream was a ghostwriter for MCR
― tony dayo (dyao), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
(anyone else love Dream+Tricky's "Can't Wait To Hate You"? will be on Mariah's newest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBRBtni1oEw
― pearsonic, Saturday, 12 September 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
gonna just answer 'yes' before even clicking that
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 September 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
okay yeah that's nice - seems pretty damn understated for a mimi track tho!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 September 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
wow that beat is cool.
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 12 September 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
wow great chorus
― Drake feat. (deej), Saturday, 12 September 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I like this more than anything on LVM.
― vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
@k3vin k. - feel like that's just b/c this is the demo ... mariah being mariah will likely "overstate" it more, heh
yeah, i love the chorus too, serious hook... have a feeling that this will end up like "right side of my brain"... studio version seriously beefed up compared to this demo... but i kind of like how bare this sounds
here's another MC3 track which i just found and kind of like, but not as much as HATE U -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdoOT5iUd8
and a question - does anyone know how dream+tricky divide their work? believe I read somewhere that dream writes vocal melodies & lyrics, and tricky does the musical soundscapes underneath.
― pearsonic, Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i was just talking to someone about that song...i think it's already posted upthread actually. great song
― tickle me delmar (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been under the impression that dream does most of the "writing" and tricky does the production (tho dream does get co-production credit)
― tickle me delmar (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda like the coen brothers wrt "directing/producing" in a way?
― tickle me delmar (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
?? wait neither "they don't know me" nor "can't wait to hate you" is on the mariah tracklist, unless the wikipedia one is incorrect
― dorroughmac (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
well, "can't wait to hate you" --> "H.A.T.E.U." (I'm almost sure)
true though -- "they don't know me" was cut
― pearsonic, Saturday, 12 September 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link