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literally not surprised by which board members feel this doesn't do enough

in the spirit of reciprocation, i am not surprised by those who do ;)

save us fooorks

I don’t know if I’d consider OK Computer an album of three minute guitar pop songs.

For starters most of the songs in OKC are over 4 minutes.

idk what you're talking about then bc the sentiment ed expressed a few times around kid a to httt was along the lines of wanting to make thtee minute guitar pop songs

and this is material is largely as far away from pop as rh have ever been and in the way i find least compelling

Did it leak? Or are we talking about the two singles and the webcasts?

sorry, i learned how to google

also, more evidence for ed being sacked, phil as well

Their many devoted sleuths may suspect that, in the long tradition of stratospherically successful, decade-spanning rock groups, the guys just don’t love hanging out together anymore. (When Ed O’Brien released his solo album last year, he admitted that only the drummer Phil Selway had asked to hear it.) It was heartening, then, to see Yorke and Greenwood, the core songwriting duo, derive such palpable joy from their live debut as the Smile on a Glastonbury livestream last May. They enlisted Tom Skinner, the fidgety jazz drummer of Sons of Kemet, as their high-energy Selway substitute.

His songwriting aspirations go back to 1996, when Radiohead embarked on OK Computer. He planned to propose some material of his own, before self-doubt – and deference to Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood – got the better of him. Making Earth, “I kept asking: what would they think?” he says. “But that was stopping me stepping fully into me.” Has Yorke heard the album? “No. Philip [Selway, drummer] asked, so I sent it to him. But I wouldn’t want to do the U2 thing” – smuggling music unbidden into people’s phones. He smiles evenly. “If they want to hear it, that’s great. And if they don’t: whatever.”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/09/radioheads-ed-obrien-humanity-has-only-really-learned-from-disaster

surprised that i like this ("the smoke")

I want to break down that riff from 'The Smoke' at some point, it's in 4/4 but they slide the phrases around so that it feels odd/awkward at certain points.

And the drumming is fantastic, deceptively simple but keeping those 16ths going at that tempo is Funky Drummer shit.

the arrangement is really nice too, sophisticated but light. the radiohead mode i like the most fwiw, tom barely there and in falsetto more a mood board than anything. restrained-funky rhythm section a la can. and a lot of almost-substantial clouds in the arrangement.

to me this sounds like the I get a little bit genghis khan song or like modern adult contempo dangermouse stuff, pretty dismal

haha i like the adult contemporary aspect of it

I can guarantee I'll forget about this song and hear it in some diff context and be like oh yeah this is pretty nice

isn't it so weird how that works? tho i probably won't hear it in a different context anytime soon!

Oof I wasn’t aware of the rest of the band - besides Phil - not being supportive or even interested at all of EOB’s solo album. That’s fucked up. Even if they don’t think it’s their cup of tea, it’s basic human decency to at least ask what he’s up to. They’ve been co-workers for three decades ffs.

Maybe AMSP is actually the last Radiohead album.

Colin Newman said, "never ask a band member what they thought of their other band member's solo album!"

LOL damn thats cold. I feel politely obligated to listen to my musical coworkers' albums, and our job isnt even "being in a band together" ffs

I want to break down that riff from 'The Smoke' at some point, it's in 4/4 but they slide the phrases around so that it feels odd/awkward at certain points.

Yeah this is one of the coolest things about that track. Sounds like there's a 3 against 4 thing going on. The main bass line also strongly recalls "A Punch Up At A Wedding." I think both Smile tracks so far are really strong.

The Ed situation makes me sad though...

if you read the rest of that guardian link (a march 2020 piece on EOB) it kind of makes it clear that the weirdness has gone on for a long time between them

i feel bad because i want to root for all the radioheads, but that solo album was a barf sandwich. even in the hype article for it, he kind of accidentally mentions how Flood thought his songs were bad but he just shrugged it off and kept going. :(

jonny
thom
colin
phil
ed

and if i'm being honest, that was always the ranking since day 1

I mean it’s clear Jonny and Thom have always been the creative force behind Radiohead. And yeah, in a way I agree with that ranking, Jonny is actually their MVP. The least replaceable after them might be Nigel.

Colin and Phil are the rhythmic background and while really good at it, they could be easily replaced if we’re being honest. Hell listening to that The Smile concert I think the highlight of the whole thing for me is actually Skinner.

Ed does provide some interesting textures from time to time but judging from that article, it feels like he himself is aware that his contributions are likely the result of them inviting him to the big boys table, but not something that idk Johnny couldn’t come up with.

It's actually crazy that Thom & Jonny ended up in the same band

It’s kind of a Lennon/McCartney, Waters/Gilmour, Gene/Dean thing.

Did it leak? Or are we talking about the two singles and the webcasts?

i'm talking about the two singles and the webcast yeah

they're doing/did those 3 concerts just the last few days, i'm sure they're out there on the torrents and whatnot, i'm just so lazy that I want it to be on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQvMhzM2B8 joe jackson

ed has the best job in RH, gets to be handsome and just play with pedals

the smile tour dates

Tickets go on General Sale this Friday 4th February at 10am GMT, more shows for The Smile will be announced in due course. The dates are:

16/05/22 - Zagreb - Hala
17/05/22 - Vienna - Gasometer
19/05/22 - Prague - Forum Karlin
20/05/22 - Berlin - Tempodrom
23/05/22 - Stockholm - Cirkus
24/05/22 - Oslo - Sentrum Scene
27/05/22 - Amsterdam - Paradiso
29/05/22 - London - Roundhouse
30/05/22 - London - Roundhouse
01/06/22 - Edinburgh - Usher Hall
02/06/22 - Manchester - Albert Hall
04/06/22 - Lille - L’Aéronef
06/06/22 - Paris - Philarmonie de Paris
07/06/22 - Paris - Philarmonie de Paris
08/06/22 - Lyon - Les Nuits de Fourvière
10/06/22 - Barcelona - Primavera Sound Festival
12/06/22 - Dijon - Festival VYV Les Solidarites
24/06/22 - Reims - La Magnifique Society
25/06/22 - Werchter - TW Classic festival
27/06/22 - Luxembourg - The Neumünster Abbaye
29/06/22 - Gdynia - Open’er Festival
05/07/22 - Barcelona - Poble Espanyol
06/07/22 - Madrid - Noches del Botánico
08/07/22 - Lisbon - Lisbon Coliseum
11/07/22 - Nîmes - Festival de Nimes
12/07/22 - Montreux - Montreux Jazz Festival
14/07/22 - Milan - Fabrique Milano
15/07/22 - Padua/Padova - Villa Contarini
17/07/22 - Macerata MC - Arena Sferisterio
18/07/22 - Cavea - Auditorium Parco della Musica
20/07/22 - Taormina - Teatro Antico di Taormina

there were reports the album is 'out in a few months' so i guess it'll be early may then

watched a stream - wasn't immediately blown away. didn't skip or turn it off either. is it headlining-those-kinds-of-venues good though? mmm

ed has the best job in RH, gets to be handsome and just play with pedals

and going "EEEEEEEEEEED"

Radioh- EEEEEEEED

shoutout to transphobic jonny greenwood and his shitty ass antivax wife ❤️❤️❤️❤️ pic.twitter.com/ejhIqiiQc7

— ellie (@pigonantibiotic) April 27, 2022

Being the prettiest Radiohead is not a bad gig, methinks.

i did not need to know this

Not very rad of him

He’s saying he clicked like by mistake…

I guess he was also following said anti-trans folks by mistake

I’m super disappointed of him.

Also Twitter is about to be owned by a shithead transphobe, so things are not looking great in general for the future of LGBTQ+ support on twitter imho.

Anyone with a mind should be deleting that platform.

pretty much nowhere feels safe

otm

xpost to Moka

depressing

my read is he isn't full-on radicalised (not like say, francis macdonald from teenage fanclub or craig potter from elbow who do spend an awful lot of time being extremely transphobic on twitter in the name of feminism) but he very likely has anti-trans sympathies, even if you take him at his word that the likes were an accident.

he's following all the transphobic uk guardian/ex-guardian writers (sarah ditum, suzanne moore, hadley freeman, sonia sodha, etc.) who have been very successful at framing trans rights as opposed to feminism, while still claiming to be socially progressive and sensible moderates. he doesn't seem to be following anyone more egregious, so there would be a vague plausible deniability that he just has shitty uk centrist politics and doesn't care much about their anti-trans crusade, but the likes on top of that makes it pretty clear that there's likely real sympathies. unfortunately it's been very very easy for centre/centre-left people in the uk to be turned against trans rights

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk, jesus christ life is hard enough and what on earth could it possibly gain you to make someone else feel miserable for who they are? Power and hatred are the only believable answers to me. Sorry this is gender politics 101 but sometimes the outrage brims over.

utterly shocked one of these genius band menmbers devoted to fighting against the government would lead to these kind of results.

Geezer from Elbow who was a rare Muso-Terf deleted his account yesterday. He’s been v vocally Terfy but not very well known I guess. The minute he got a bit of pushback and a bit of a pile-on he was off.

I will never understand the motivation to attack trans folk

I mean, when you're a super successful white male guitarist, in an innovative rock band, and are a highly acclaimed film composer, trans folks are definitely in your way all the time insulting your hairstyle. It probably gets very annoying having a small fortune but still struggling with a constant bad hair day.

(I'm joking and Johnny Greenwood is a prick that needs to grow up. RIP Radiohead.)