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im givng up trying to listen to all the pirates all the time.....

― splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Martin i have neither the teknology nor the server space. I'll try to work it out though.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

the remix to kano's ps and qs is great, better than the original in my humble opinion.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I think if we all resolved to upload every big tune we talked about here, I'd be able to hear this Ps and Qs remix and the world would be better for it. So help me help you to help me.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Those Jammer dubs Glamma was playing are cool. He was using his duoble-orchestral string stabs even back then. The beats sound like he was trying to get a Wookie feel to them. The one made especially for Glamma with all the short synth pulses going off was mad. I'll try and get them up on here in RM soon.

― thsmrltlsnd, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

what about an exclusively grime g-mail tree, no large files?

― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i get the feeling a lot of people like to keep their exclusives close to their heart and away from their file-sharing hard drives.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm in, Dave.

razorbladerunner@gmail.com

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

the wiley answer back on the logan sama mixtape is wicked.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

inspired by all the comments and reminisces about john peel, i am going to try and get my tape of the peel session where he got eastwood and his mates to do a set, and at the end, said that he felt like he had been at the first elvis gig, or something, it was so amazing for him. its a good set too, about 90 mins long i guess. if you want it then i shoiuld be back on slsk sometime. its good just as a sort of reminder that even towards the end, peel was still making connections with new stuff, and still open minded.

― ambrose (ambrose), Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

ambrose, if theres any way you could get that on slsk, i would be amazingly grateful.

― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm im gonna have to wait till next week when i get the internet, also, if i can find the tape!??! i found what i thought ws it the other night, but it cuts outi into all this (admittedly, could have been on peel) guitar zzzzz

― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 31 October 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

oh god. i ve just heard Give U More and its wicked. didn't dizzee use the instrumental track "Hoe" released on white label in summer?
Forward Riddim is in my opinion quite dull. all the time expected that it ll unwind somehow. it really sounds very lo-fi. he probably made the track by clicking on Random button in Fruity Loops till it sounded cool. best grime track of the year? hardly.

― karl76 (karl76), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

fwd riddim is kinda shit, sad to say.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

it's pretty good.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Dizzee made the "wheel" riddim, early versions of which got bootlegged. this then became "give u more" after it got vocalled. he also made "Hoe" ages ago, which also has been bootlegged/refixed, many times.

― martin (martin), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

martin - you've heard the roll deep album yeah? do you know what the hell is going on with roll deep using the maisonettes' (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:16ke4jn70wav~T1) Heartache Avenue on the album? It's one of the strangest things i've heard to come out of grime. Is it going to be on the final record? I either love it or hate it. I'm still not sure despite listening to it on repeat for about 10 times.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

dunno if ambrose got it up or not but i have the eastwood peel set up on the seek

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

whats your username myke?

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

boomnoise!zoo

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Fwd Riddim is great! It's like a perkier, friendlier version of "Rat Race".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

dunno if ambrose got it up

i am stil lworking on it but realised that i dont even have all of it so maybe its not worth the bother. do you mind if i get it off you myke?

i am full of shit i guess.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Myke: i have no idea what will be on the final Roll Deep LP, i' m guessing they dont either. they only just signed to Relentless and as it's not due out till late spring/summer i'm guessing they'll do a whole bunch of new tracks as well.

where did you get a copy of the track from? is it online?

― martin (martin), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i like grime a LOT (in spite of my slightly shit-stirring posts - i just do them to argue things over in my head) but i find it slightly strange that its leading champions have so little remotely critical to say about it. i mean, even the kids at rewind have a less adoring eye over it all.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 8 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

feel free ambrose et al.

martin: i have something which is pretending to be the roll deep album - i recognise a lot of the tracks but a few i don't. like the aforementioned.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

they only just signed to Relentless

What happened to the story that Roll Deep were with Island Records and an album was imminent?

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

For those not in the know:

http://www.chantellefiddy.blogspot.com/

Top stuff indeed

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Chantelle is so great.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

What do people reckon to "Boogeyman"?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

boogeyman is ok. the rapping seems a bit too lacksadacsical.

after checking that blog, chantelle is quite fit actually.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

erm...

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

its still appropriate for this post!

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Boogey man is genius. comedy baroque-electro-grime. "i sleep in my hooded jim jams!"

― martin (martin), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

For those who dont want to be in the know:

Blackdownsoundboy

― martin (martin), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Just got back from London and grabbed these grime and sub-lo 12"s at Uptown Records:

white label called "Invade" (really buzzy and dark)
one sided white label called "Thug Ho" (super awesome, very gappy and chopped)
and some Jon E. Cash 12"s on Black Ops:
"Evil" (like, evil, man), "Champagne Hoes" (killer hi pitched vocoder vox at end)

fun fun fun

― Drew Daniel, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Is "Thug Ho" the bootleg of Skepta's "Thuggish Ruggish" with Dizzee's "Ho"?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

that unorthodox track 'no help no handouts' is in my blog and active for like four more days.

http://razorbladerunner.blogspot.com

yes i'm shameless

also, the god's gift white label cut over the mondie beat, is this shit super old? either way, it's fuckin pretty awesome. it's currently a road rage anthem. "i love grime and i love gore/ and i love puttin' blood all over the floor"

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry for crashing your thread but Martin directed me back here and I couldn't leave without asking for your input... I'm looking to run some 'underground dance' top 5's/ comments in my end of year column for B&S so was wondering whether any of you would be up for submitting something. I'd also like to mention a few blogs worth checking out, I'm not to up on all this yet and haven't had the time to dedicate but I'm trying, honest guv!! If you're up for it please post them http://www.chantellefiddy.blogspot.com/ or drop me an email. Keep it gully! (One day I'm actually going to read the whole of this thread...)

― Chantelle Fiddy, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

just heard roll deep have signed a giant deal with relentless.

dunno what happened to lethal b's FWD riddim in the singles chart - i thought it was predicted to go top ten.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 22 November 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Wiley announced the deal last month at Fabric. FWD is now called POW and is out in January (when it doesnt take many sales to chart).

― martin (martin), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

didnt know he announced it last month - i just read about it at rwd.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i was pissed off when i heard they're waiting till january. the hype peaked ages ago. maybe they're wiser than me, i dunno.

that elliot ness got over a hundred missed calls for his special of that about 2 months ago. now he probably don't even get one. and still they want to wait? i dunno, it doesn't make sense to me.

practice hours is a good dvd to get though. you really feel for ruff squad on it. they're complaining about how everyone else makes one big tune and breaks through, they#'ve made 100 big tunes and no one likes them. i love them though and i know you do too.

great lethal b vs wiley footage. worth it just for the outfits. wiley has got some outfits.

― l......., Tuesday, 23 November 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

ok so practice hours is out?

then what about these cds/dvds?

- run the road (yeah, ive seen the OMM review, when can i buy it?)
- risky roads (ad for this has been there for ages, but where is it?)

dotn know if i will ever buy any 12"'s again, think i might just stick to cds and mixtapes etc

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

When is the Ruff Sqwad tape out??

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Run the Road is scheduled for January 24.

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Ruff Sqwad's full vocal version of Anna is BIG!
Also their track called 'Alright' has an excellent skit intro - apparently to be featured on their Album (distinct from mixtape I believe).

― thsmrtlsnd, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry but going from the OMM RTR review and his own books, simon reynolds doesnt really seem to like hip hop of any sort, so all the rhetoric about grime being the real uk hip hop is bollocks coming from him. he couldnt even quote the notorious big right in that OMM review - its not 'if you dont know, get to know', its 'if you dont know, now you know'.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

'POW' is fucking awesome. I've watched it over and over on Base.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

he couldnt even quote the notorious big right in that OMM review

Erm, Reynolds introduces the quote with to twist slightly the words...

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

oooooops. *slaps forehead*

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

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