Rolling Stones: Classic or Dud

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Which was that?

Josefa, Friday, 25 March 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

"Worried About You", apparently a Black and Blue outtake!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 March 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Live at the El Mocambo sounds great!

Brad C., Saturday, 14 May 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

I'll have to give it a full try. I sampled a couple of tracks that were officially uploaded on YouTube ("Hand of Fate" and "Luxury") and I was disappointed with Mick's singing. It reminded me how much I did't like Love You Live and I thought this release might be more of the same. Amazing a year later they'd film Live in Texas - I have that Blu-ray and Mick is incredible through that entire show. It may be possible his singing isn't much different and it's simply helped by the sight of him running around stage (I'm sure enunciation bothers me less when I can clearly see that the guy is doing high-level cardio throughout the entire set), but that was a great show regardless.

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 May 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

I've listened to some of it. The set list is mildly interesting, but the execution is...well, let's just say the world really didn't need a fake reggae version of Bo Diddley's "Crackin' Up."

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 15 May 2022 19:09 (two years ago) link

- Bob Marley

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 15 May 2022 19:46 (two years ago) link

The 1972 shows (the Ladies and Gentlemen film in particular) and certain 1978 shows (the Live in Texas film) are GREAT, flat out essential IMHO, but I'm surprised how much of what came in-between has been uneven or disappointing, at least to me. The 1973 shows are still good and both versions of Brussels Affair (the bootlegged KBFH broadcast and the recent official release) are great, but after that, the shows sound more and more uneven to me. Some numbers are better than others but certain parts will become disappointing like Mick's singing or Keith himself, who can still be good but not at the same level as before. (In fact, he's kind of the "weak" link in Live in Texas - compared to Ladies and Gentlemen, you can see he's physically not at the same level, but it's not a factor because he's still fine and their show's dynamics has changed, with Mick being more center stage and Ronnie having a bigger role and becoming a better fit with the Some Girls material.)

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link

Lol, seem to recall that El Mocambo “Crackin’ Up” getting a lot of airplay at the time.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link

I haven't listened to the covers, but I sampled a handful of originals - paying less attention to Mick, the band does sound great. Charlie especially - he's always amazing.

birdistheword, Sunday, 15 May 2022 20:52 (two years ago) link

I think inconsistency has kind of been the thing with the Stones throughout their career. I recall that bit Jim Dickinson talking about them recording at Muscle Shoals saying they flat out sucked for a few hours worst bar band ever getting nothing done and then out of nowhere they cut the track for "Wild Horses" as it is on the record.

I need to check out that El Mocambo show. I wish Zep, Sabbath and Floyd had as many good live recordings in the can, but it looks like they don't.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 15 May 2022 23:54 (two years ago) link

Wish they’d release that Brussels Affair show as a stand-alone thing, don’t want to buy the $100+ super deluxe Goat Heads Soup just to get it.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 May 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link

xp It really should get a standalone release. It's weird it hasn't since so many lesser shows were.

FWIW, it was released years ago as a lossless download, and it was reasonably priced - I think $10? - so I got it and burned it on to a CD-R, which I still have. The CD in the box set uses the exact same mastering.

birdistheword, Monday, 16 May 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link

xp - been keeping my eye out for that bootleg version, but it's unavailable everywhere atm.

Meanwhile, this El Mocambo release really does live up to the hype.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

This new 4 part BBC series "My Life As A Rolling Stone" sometimes feels like a glorified EPK. I don't care what Lars Ulrich, Sheryl Crow or Chrissie Hynde think of The Stones (sorry?). But the old codgers are enjoyable to watch and listen to. The Ronnie Wood episode is especially good though the overall feeling is that these guys, who I love with all my heart, are the coolest of relics from a time when sex, drugs n' rock n' roll held a lot more meaning than today.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

i will seek this iut

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

out

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

This is the best version of "Jumpin' Jack Flash" I've ever seen/heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ylZvdk3VU

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 5 August 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

That was pretty awesome! Great-looking restoration - IIRC they restored all of their short films for their 50th anniversary (partly for that Crossfire Hurricane doc as well). I kind of wish they'd put them on a Blu-ray like the Beatles did with 1+, but at least they're streaming.

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

The 'Micky Stardust & The Spiders From Dartford' clip!

Charlie weirdly the only one dripping with sweat and looking like he's about to pass out in that clip.

So who else sitting in adding percussion and organ?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 August 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

Hmm, I guess the recording is some combination of the recorded track and ... live vocals?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 August 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

Bonham was so much better at sweating and almost passing out, it's not even close.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 August 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link

Charlie: ("OK, just breathe ... 1,2,3,4, kick, snare, kick, snare ... breathe ... 1,2,3,4 ... gosh, are all the lights pointed right at me? ... 1,2,3,4 ... what did I have for dinner, didn't everyone eat the same thing? ... not even Mick is sweating, what is wrong with me? ... ")

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 August 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link

I don’t think those are live vocals - for one thing, there are backing vocals but nobody else there is singing

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 5 August 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

I kind of wish they'd put them on a Blu-ray like the Beatles did with 1+, but at least they're streaming.

This probably won't happen...or if it does, it'll be an Abkco release that doesn't need the Stones' approval. Given Abkco's track record of such things (like the wan Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! box), they'll probably fuck it up somehow.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 August 2022 18:11 (two years ago) link

There are extra hoots and whoops and stuff, too, that are not on the recording, so I dunno what's going on. Kind of like a Peel Session?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 August 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

The "Miss You" clip has some visual similarities, and also uses an alternate vocal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hic-dnps6MU

Wait, I've been talking about this JJF clip, not the one unperson posted (the non-makeup/glam one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGd7SkdETro

Bonham was so much better at sweating and almost passing out, it's not even close.

mookieproof, Friday, 5 August 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

god, just thinking about how bonham died makes me want to throw up

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

i love the little improvisations mick throws in throughout the clip unperson posted. he's always doing that (often to the song's detriment, as their career goes on, imo) but the way he did it in the 60s was so perfect.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

yeah (ma ma yeah?) there's also that extra high keith harmony on "all right now." or it's more pronounced or something.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

Charlie’s tempo acceleration on Honky Toni Women is without parallel

calstars, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

“Oh, he meant to do it like that”

calstars, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Abkco has just up the original 'Drag' version of the "Have You Seen Your Mother..." promo film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HARY3-RYy90

...and here's the clip that would replace it, featuring insane footage of their '66 Royal Albert Hall shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVY9I0XP-g8

five months pass...

Get a real job, Jagger … pic.twitter.com/qB6CLQ4wGt

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) March 15, 2023

all this time i've been thinking they're a rock'n'roll outfit.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 16 March 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link

it's only rock'n'roll (but Mick hopes people don't think they're a rock'n'roll outfit)

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 16 March 2023 09:54 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

I don’t know what the heck Mick’s stylist was on, but love this iteration of the tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyyoaWjVXYM

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 5 November 2023 17:57 (eleven months ago) link

He could bring back the kneepads but this time they’d be primarily preventative aids

calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2023 18:39 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

Tour Kicked Off In Houston (didn't go)...Did Not See That Back Half Of The Encore Coming

Setlist

Start Me Up
Get Off of My Cloud
Rocks Off
Out of Time
Angry
Beast of Burden (fan-voted song)
Mess It Up (live debut)
Tumbling Dice
You Can't Always Get What You Want (followed by band introductions)
Little T&A (first time since 2016; Keith Richards on vocals)
Sympathy for the Devil
Gimme Shelter
Honky Tonk Women
Miss You
Paint It Black
Jumpin' Jack Flash

Encore:
Sweet Sounds of Heaven
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
100 Years Ago (first time since 1973)
2000 Light Years From Home (First time since 1989)

no Gomper? disappointing

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 29 April 2024 08:41 (six months ago) link

i think those last two songs only occurred in someone's imagination.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 29 April 2024 09:57 (six months ago) link

(running away with them?)

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2024 10:06 (six months ago) link

some encores just wanna be played all night

budo jeru, Monday, 29 April 2024 15:21 (six months ago) link

I don't have that much time to jam

Hideous Lump, Monday, 29 April 2024 17:06 (six months ago) link

The thought of 80 year old Keith singing “her 80 year old tits and ass” is *vomits*

calstars, Thursday, 9 May 2024 23:43 (five months ago) link


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