that's meaner than i wanted it to sound, sorry, drunk.
― De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link
especially daunting when they're in another language (norwegian, elvish)
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link
if you can't read norwegian u have no business listening to troo kvlt black metal tbh
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link
i can get by but its like why waste time when i could skip "step one" and just get necro
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 04:55 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i43.tinypic.com/30ic7ee.jpg
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
anyway some of it doesnt even HAVE lyrics!!
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i am just teasing u rox
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link
i cant see that jpg anyways haha
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link
how about http://tiny.cc/KUBhY for an illegible logo
― squirrelbait, Sunday, 26 July 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Ok ok, I give up. I can't read any of them! The one I linked to supposedly says "Mistigo Varggoth Darkestra" by the way.
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm fairly new to black metal - i've got a lot of the stuff mentioned in this thread but can anyone recommend any recent more experimental bands?
― squirrelbait, Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/byzantum
― Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 July 2009 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link
stan im afraid ive forgotten what bands those logos were from lol. Hope you didn't want to know hehe
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link
one of them was korgonthurus actually. I took note of that one.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
and the other was lurker of chalice
Yeah, the filenames on two of them help, I noticed after giving up. :-)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
im surprised you couldnt read the lurker of chalice one
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Now I know I see it as soon as I look at it - not so with the other ones. This is like staring at stereograms, I can't do those either.
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
not black metal but this one is unreadablehttp://i30.tinypic.com/fzaw45.jpgOnly people who know what it is are those who have seen it on other sites/forums where people go hey can you read this
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
and im going easy on you by showing you where i got it fromhttp://www.ladyomega.com/the-most-unreadable-metal-logos-my-13-picks/
why do these sites say unreadable instead of illegible ?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link
lol check the definition of Metalheadhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unreadable&page=8#
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought I saw a W, yay! (because unreadable is what non-english speaking people logically deduce "illegible" is in English)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link
ahh, i thought it was maybe an actual term im black metal for logos.
btw Stan, does your 'M' stand for Metal?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
That Korgonthurus logo is great.
― f1f0 (Pashmina), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
No, it's the first letter of my last name. (xpost)
I'm not _that_ into metal, actually :-)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
so this isn't you, Stan?http://www.thorcentral.com/mp_redesign/images/memorabilia/truemetal-greek-mag.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, no. I look more like Frank Black :-/
― StanM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I can make out Wa***g the Cadaver
― Siegbran, Sunday, 26 July 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
serious as uncranky-as-I-can-be-about-it q: why do people always want the "experimental" stuff first - isn't that a way of saying "I really don't much care for the genre but when it's informed by other genres then ok maybe"?
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Sunday, 26 July 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
can you recommend me some reggae that sounds like rock music
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
redemption song my boo
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
ty
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Obviously all of these boring, by-the-numbers bands aren't experimental enough.
― Skeevy Wonder (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
in the real world all kids are exactly like LJ clearly
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
who needs paper thin guitars, blast beats and nature worship when u can have a whole LP of boring sludge drones from the latest southern lord signee.
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
lolj.
LJ will be running a best avant garde black metal poll to go along with this one.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
learn to crawl imo
― kid cruti (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 July 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't agree. for one thing, i don't believe there is a right or wrong way to familiarize yourself with a genre. the one bit of advice i would give anyone who was listening to stuff for the first time: dig in! listen to lots of stuff. bad and good. figure out what you like from there. and don't worry too much about people's lists and such. as far as starting with the more traditional...i don't get it. start wherever you like. and why do people gravitate to the "craziest" and most "out there" or most experimental examples of a genre first? because this can be the most fun place to start for an adventurous music fan. a lot of people who post on ilm enjoy the sui generis in lots of genres. it's simple curiousity. who took the genre the furthest? who was the most bonkers country/rockabilly/r&b singer of the 50's? you know? and i think if people start with that kind of stuff and like what they hear they might be more curious to hear where the music began. who were the pioneers? this is often true of rock fans. they start with the "crazy" free jazz and later, if they truly enjoy the stuff they hear, then they go back in time and learn to appreciate the more prosaic, but just as rewarding, pleasures of bop or hot jazz or whatever. once someone starts, wherever they start, you never know where thy are gonna end up.
― scott seward, Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link
<3
and now, Mayhem
― country matters, Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
just always gonna disagree w/ you on this one scott, I think it's bullshit when people take The Metal That's Most Comfortable For Me and then champion it as The Most Awesome Metal when they kinda don't know what they're talking about
feel the same way in other genres & fields too, my position is if you don't have a hunger to learn the history then you're doin it wrong
I know this is an obnoxious super-orthodox stance to take but what can I say, I'm a Catholic.
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Sunday, 26 July 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link
btw De Mysteriis was sweet, Ordo Ad Chao also sounding like it knows its plain evil from its megasuperdemonic
awesome is subjective, because it is my own awe kthx
― country matters, Sunday, 26 July 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
mind you I am only too happy to have the important classic stuff impressed upon me, because one day it will stick and it will be like joining a particularly awesome club of people who understand why shit like this happens in the first place
― country matters, Sunday, 26 July 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i just think most people's musical education is haphazard at best. if someone says that their favorite jazz album is a love supreme i don't immediately scream WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO MORE CHARLIE PARKER!!?? sometimes it takes people a little longer to get used to a genre. everyone has a different way in.
x-post
― scott seward, Sunday, 26 July 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
"The Metal That's Most Comfortable For Me and then champion it as The Most Awesome Metal when they kinda don't know what they're talking about"
it might be the most awesome to them NOW. and maybe it always will be. maybe some people don't want to delve any deeper. i've got no problem with that either.
― scott seward, Sunday, 26 July 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah I was the same way when I got into post-black-metal metal! and I'm glad people told me "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" or I'd still be runnin around saying Amorphis was the best metal band of the mid-nineties
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link
btw glad lj digs ordo ad chao that album slays, if you haven't copped gorgoroth ad majorem get to business man
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I know you're gonna lol @ me because it is obviously the 10-minute avant-garde excursion, but listening to "Illuminate Eliminate" just now there was THE most awesome minimal build about 2 minutes in, working both with and against the blastbeats and the growls...god I can't help myself :(
Was really loving this shit before this song, honest, but game is being upped. Now it sounds like a helicopter. Oh my god.
Have ad majorem already, from a recommendation of yours back in '07. You told me I'd dig 'White Seed'. You were right. Now I need to hear the rest of the album properly, and get beyond the whole <3 Gaahl thing, into what the whole band were actually doing.
(High-pitched screams over a minimal backdrop going into a really evil new riff at the 7-minute mark = shit oh shit)
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously this is one of my top 5 BM songs.
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link
And the rest of the top 5 has shit like Xasthur in it
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link