Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act.

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as far AS exemplifying shit, now dont that beat all

kid cruti (roxymuzak), Monday, 27 July 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

lol mclusky came on after ordo ad chao ended and it was like a burst of poppy sunshine as all the children linked hands and blew kisses at each other

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe deep down that is what mclusky is but still lol

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i never listen to enslaved. or satyricon. though i like them fine when i hear them. i listen to every other band on here at least once or twice a year. honestly, i listen to more death metal and grind than anything else. and a lot of old metal via tapes. most of the black metal i hear these days is new stuff i get in the mail from people like moribund and most doesn't make much of an impression. and some of the u.s. shoegaze drone bm stuff i end up liking a lot. but not much. i liked that first brown jenkins album. um, some other stuff.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

someone brought in a box of metal tapes to the store to sell and i was so happy to find the 2nd S.O.B. album on Rise Above in there! Woo Hoo! I blasted that shit. how often do you see old S.O.B. tapes!?

also i just kept playing Dark Angel's Darkness Descends on tape over and over all week. what a record. sheesh.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

scott have you heard the new blut aus nord

cause that thing is awesome

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

as far as black metal goes, i will confess that my knowledge of the first FRENCH wave is lacking. i need more. i'm just cheap and i hate downloading stuff. i would totally pay someone like gottpunch to burn me a cdr series of some of that stuff. or a lot of that stuff. old drakkar releases. vlad tepes. torgeist. stuff like that. i love the stuff i've heard over the years on the internet (like on youtube and last fm) and elsewhere. i don't know why i don't just learn how to burn shit on my own. it's like a thing with me. a mental block.

suggestions too for stuff to look for online. some of that stuff has never been reissued. just bootlegged endlessly.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think i have heard the new blut. i'm a fan though.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

2nd on the Blut Aus Nord. But if I had to make my 2009 metal list it'd be fighting it out with Funeral Mist for #3. Madder Mortem has #1 by a ways.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Mike from YOB tells me that this new Australian band Portals is sort of a Blut Aus Nord/Immolation hybrid. Check out their freaking costumes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrBZZtGFgI

Nate Carson, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Portal is one of the freakiest bands on the planet.

A. Begrand, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

portal album made my top 20 decibel list. it made most people's year-end lists. it was great.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

New one forthcoming, too, apparently...

A. Begrand, Monday, 27 July 2009 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost - i was just curious to hear some of the more experimental bands, thats all - ive listened to a fair amount of the stuff mentioned on this thread from venom/hellhammer onwards, but the sheer amount of info on the internet on BM has me defeated, so i thought some recommendations might be helpful. i don't think there is ever any one correct way to get into a musical genre.

squirrelbait, Monday, 27 July 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost: The first wave French "Legions Noires" stuff is essential, and some of their wildest recordings came out as tape-only side projects. Good selection at the Cosmic Hearse blog.

Discovering a genre retrospectively is a strange experience. I came in on the back of Black One, but I do feel it's essential to dig back to the roots. Knowing punk pretty much from the ground up, I can appreciate the irritation with people who come out with the equivalent of "Green Day are just the greatest ever . ." But, at the end of the day, you like what you like, and I do like Xasthur.

The upside is that there is so much to explore out there. Looking at the list, I still don't think I've covered enough to make an informed choice. Of the big four, I'm aware that most of the nowadays Black Metal I like is footnotes to side one of Filosem, but I'm leaning towards Immortal: frosty production, mad riffs and fanatical, single-minded attitude. You get to the end of an album, and just want to play it all over again.

Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing is wrong with Xasthur. No one has to apologize for liking him whatever J0hn D thinks.

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

john is only jealous because xasthur is a better breakdancer.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

both Xasthur & Green Day are actually fine btw

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

nah wait that was another BM dude wasnt it. Oh well, john's still jealous as there's 2 better breakdancers than him.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

my style is impetuous

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

but can you do what Immortal do?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/MMMMMMM_Pie/Miscellaneous/ImmortalSurfing.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

you know what's surprising to me is that the picture marduk had taken of themselves, shirtless by the pacific ocean - which century media sent out to everybody circa '04 I think - hasn't gotten the play that those immortal press photos have. can't even find 'em online but I remember getting sent them

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

People come on here an angst about whether listening to a lot of BM will cause them to develop dubious political leanings.

Actually, all that happens is that Immortal stop looking silly. (Or at least no sillier than Funkedelic, Kraftwerk, Magma . . )

Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.exraven.net/blackmetal/norwegian/darkthrone/images/darkthrone666.jpg

best band logo ever?

original bgm, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Mayhem's is pretty good:

http://www.legaljuice.com/MAYHEM.gif

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry BM bands, but I vote for Einstürzende Neubauten's logo.

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

xp. Check out how kvlt my bedroom window is

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv105/NAPOLEONROFL/DSC00400.jpg

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

imo the best two logos in any genre are slam-o-ram-A & korganthurus

slam-o-ram-A:

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/l_1a6705a3185a20cba5f4ed766f0c59a2.png

korganthurus:

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/634p23wef.jpg

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i would be posting more on here but i fear what other mod subs dan has cooked up for me, like mayhem is going to come up as a chicken dance youtube

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

cant remember if i voted yet, but today emperor seems like the right choice. this really is harder than it first appears.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

pick your words carefully, sir

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

TEST:

Burzum
Darkthrone
Emperor
Enslaved
Immortal
Mayhem
Satyricon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8
Some other Norwegian Black Metal band

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ok safe (mostly) for now

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, type "pulverize", see what happens

(pretty sure I voted Emperor based off the metal CDs my old boss loaned me; I basically hated Immortal and Enslaved and loved Emperor, Therion and Satyricon)

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

enslaved has gone through some pretty significant changes over the years tho, so it might depend on which album it was tbf

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, not u.l.v.e.r. style changes, but still

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

What if you wanted to say something about a big BM show in Culver City?

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

they start with the "crazy" free jazz and later, if they truly enjoy the stuff they hear, then they go back in time and learn to appreciate the more prosaic, but just as rewarding, pleasures of bop or hot jazz or whatever. once someone starts, wherever they start, you never know where thy are gonna end up.

lol this is EXACTLY me when it came to getting into jazz

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

first jazz record i ever bought was "go see the world" by david s. ware

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

yea that's totally me too wrt jazz. older brother played me 'meditations' when i was 15 or so, then i got into ayler, all that. now i'm bugging out on how cool this billie holiday boxset is that i borrowed from the library

mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i still love the weird free shit but most jazz i listen to now is the basics

mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up on super-trad pre-bop (dad played piano in a jazz combo but was pretty reactionary [is even more so now] about most bop & everything after), got into free stuff with ESP discs in the mid-nineties, now mainly dig the west coast style

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

tempted to edit the thread title to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act. (a jazz thread)"

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

DO IT

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

or change the poll options to your favorite jazz icons

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8 on some thread about most changed artists over time.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

burzum marsalis xpost

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

never ceases to make me happy

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link


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