Morrissey is a racist

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Ughhhhh....

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

No matter what you think of the polarizing lyrics in “Bonfire of Teenagers,” there’s one thing we can all agree on: Morrissey will always say what’s on his mind, for better or for worse.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

I guess what will naturally happen (or perhaps already has) is that I just maintain the same appreciation for '80s and '90s Morrissey while doing my best to ignore latter day Morrissey. It actually brings to mind Dennis Miller, a guy who I surprisingly like a lot when I caught reruns of '80s and early '90s episodes of Saturday Night Live. In both cases though, people argue that the signs were always there, and yet it's still hard to reconcile the work they did then versus what they continuously spout now.

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

take it you haven't read this (from 1986) interview up the thead then?

https://mrmorrissey.tripod.com/interv/inter5.html

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

Legitimately hope he’s dead every time a thread about him gets bumped and I’m disappointed every time.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

Maybe I'll just think of the Smiths as Johnny Marr's band.

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

The only smiths that ever mattered is the uk snack brand known for producing scampi fries sito

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

i prefer their earlier releases - ie Salt & Shake crisps.

Legitimately hope he’s dead every time a thread about him gets bumped and I’m disappointed every time.

sorry for bumping. just incredulous anyone still likes him.

stirmonster, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

So, he's written an answer song to "Don't look back in Anger"

It's called "Songs that saved someone elses life" oh wait..

Mark G, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Love a salt n shake! Hell I love a frazzles don’t @ me. Both kinds of chipsticks good too!

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

salt n shake went downhill when they signed to Walkers.

stirmonster, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link

In light of the above posts, it also saddens me that the only creative name Americans have ever come up with for chips and fries during the past 20 years is "freedom fries."

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

look, when new jersey came up with the name "disco fries" for poutine, america officially peaked

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

Ha I love that

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

No matter what you think of the polarizing lyrics in “Bonfire of Teenagers,” there’s one thing we can all agree on: Morrissey will always say what’s on his mind, for better or for worse.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:02 AM (two hours ago)

True enough. Trump supporters often praise their hero for speaking his mind. To which my reply is, Speaking your mind is not a virtue when your mind is a dumpster fire.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

LMAO, YES

https://www.cjr.org/wp-content/themes/cjr2017/images-body/NY1.jpg

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

So dumb seeing this presented as a Moz-vs.-Oasis beef.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

This guy was ordering his band to write letters to his record company, trying to get them to release "Throwing My Arms Around Paris" in the wake of the Paris terror attacks in 2015 because it might give him a number one. So doesn't seem unlikely that he's motivated by envy and frustration that the mourners weren't singing one of his songs.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

Morrisey is a oacist

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

The frustration in the song is about having the British anthem after a terrorist attack be "don't be angry."

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:20 (one year ago) link

The British anthem? What they fuck are you talking about? In any case, who gives a fuck what Morrissey has to say about Britain or about how he thinks people should react to terrorism?

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

I wish a writer of some reputation would publish something that might cross his desk about how bad it sucks, and in some very particular ways, that a guy whose insights into loneliness and otherness continually betrays the import of those insights -- and was doing so all along, mind ("reggae is vile" "hang the DJ" et al), but -- it's on the level of Edith Wharton's antisemitism for me, something that spoils what might have been a balm

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

xpost
I'm not siding with him at all, but turning the new song into Moz-vs-Oasis would be like taking a mocking of "We Shall Overcome" as being against Pete Seeger.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

xp aw shit, The Age of Innocence is one of my favorite books, and now's that been tainted too.

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

(xp) Yeah, like, Morrissey isn't also jealous as hell of the fact that his fellow Mancunians are singing Oasis songs while his songs don't even get a look in.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Viva Hate Crimes

Alba, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

Johnny Marr was willing to show Morrissey how to play guitar and to dance with him in the official How Soon Is Now music video. I hope he stayed out of politics. I think he made the Smiths good.

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

When I saw Marr at Warsaw in Brooklyn (I think 2016?) at one point between songs, he went up to the mic and said something like "all right we have another one for you, but first....POLITICS!" and then jokingly cut himself off.

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link

(actually 2018)

birdistheword, Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

Viva Hate Crimes

vg

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 7 July 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

lol yeah

symsymsym, Friday, 8 July 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link

Yeah, like, Morrissey isn't also jealous as hell of the fact that his fellow Mancunians are singing Oasis songs while his songs don't even get a look in.

This reminds me of when he went on radio to say that Brexit was a beautiful thing but the metropolitan elites won't accept it; gotta think Smiths/Moz fans are overwhelmingly remain, for all his "I'm an outsider who speaks his mind" shtick so much of this is pathetically wanting to be accepted by an audience that I don't think has much time for him.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 8 July 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link

Manchester voted 60.4% to Remain by the way, but I doubt Manchester has any interest in Morrissey anyway.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2022 10:50 (one year ago) link

so much to answer for iirc

mark s, Friday, 8 July 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

lol look at me quoting smiths lyrics, endtimes klaxon ppl

mark s, Friday, 8 July 2022 10:54 (one year ago) link

xp aw shit, The Age of Innocence is one of my favorite books, and now's that been tainted too.

― birdistheword, Thursday, July 7, 2022 5:39 PM

Wait till you learn what she said about Joyce!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 July 2022 11:18 (one year ago) link

I just spent a little too long looking for a picture of Joyce DeWitt before it occurred to me to ask myself why I was doing it

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 8 July 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

peel slowly and see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTPodszvgA8

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

There was a time in my life when the Smiths' music meant as much to me as anyone's.

Moz has lived too long. Or maybe I have.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

Definitely the first one by about half a century

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

yes, to think the man had flowers growing out of his ass as early as 1984 and is somehow still alive today

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 8 July 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

If he'd died, he wouldn't be a cautionary tale for us.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

he would if a bear ate him.

don't be racist, you'll be eaten by a bear.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

a lesson for the bear:
morrissey meat is murder, and that's fine

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link

What if I
Were to be eaten by a bear
Would you even care?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

man if i knew how to post youtubes from my phone without breaking the universe i would post the mst3k morrissey clip so hard right now

i REFUSE to pay for my own cbd (cat), Saturday, 9 July 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

rushomancy, I enjoyed that track a lot but am I missing something in re: its relevance to Morrissey's racism?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 July 2022 10:35 (one year ago) link

It’s in re: Joyce

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Monday, 11 July 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link

aaah lol

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 July 2022 11:01 (one year ago) link

hush hush
nobody cares
steven morrissey
was eaten by bears

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 July 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link


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