xpost: The first wave French "Legions Noires" stuff is essential, and some of their wildest recordings came out as tape-only side projects. Good selection at the Cosmic Hearse blog.
Discovering a genre retrospectively is a strange experience. I came in on the back of Black One, but I do feel it's essential to dig back to the roots. Knowing punk pretty much from the ground up, I can appreciate the irritation with people who come out with the equivalent of "Green Day are just the greatest ever . ." But, at the end of the day, you like what you like, and I do like Xasthur.
The upside is that there is so much to explore out there. Looking at the list, I still don't think I've covered enough to make an informed choice. Of the big four, I'm aware that most of the nowadays Black Metal I like is footnotes to side one of Filosem, but I'm leaning towards Immortal: frosty production, mad riffs and fanatical, single-minded attitude. You get to the end of an album, and just want to play it all over again.
― Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Nothing is wrong with Xasthur. No one has to apologize for liking him whatever J0hn D thinks.
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
john is only jealous because xasthur is a better breakdancer.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
both Xasthur & Green Day are actually fine btw
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
nah wait that was another BM dude wasnt it. Oh well, john's still jealous as there's 2 better breakdancers than him.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
my style is impetuous
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
but can you do what Immortal do?http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/MMMMMMM_Pie/Miscellaneous/ImmortalSurfing.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
you know what's surprising to me is that the picture marduk had taken of themselves, shirtless by the pacific ocean - which century media sent out to everybody circa '04 I think - hasn't gotten the play that those immortal press photos have. can't even find 'em online but I remember getting sent them
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp274/Dissociation_Drummer/immortal-YMCA.jpg
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
People come on here an angst about whether listening to a lot of BM will cause them to develop dubious political leanings.
Actually, all that happens is that Immortal stop looking silly. (Or at least no sillier than Funkedelic, Kraftwerk, Magma . . )
― Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.exraven.net/blackmetal/norwegian/darkthrone/images/darkthrone666.jpg
best band logo ever?
― original bgm, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Mayhem's is pretty good:
http://www.legaljuice.com/MAYHEM.gif
― He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry BM bands, but I vote for Einstürzende Neubauten's logo.
― StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xp. Check out how kvlt my bedroom window is
http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv105/NAPOLEONROFL/DSC00400.jpg
― De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
imo the best two logos in any genre are slam-o-ram-A & korganthurus
slam-o-ram-A:
http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/l_1a6705a3185a20cba5f4ed766f0c59a2.png
korganthurus:
http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/634p23wef.jpg
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i would be posting more on here but i fear what other mod subs dan has cooked up for me, like mayhem is going to come up as a chicken dance youtube
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
cant remember if i voted yet, but today emperor seems like the right choice. this really is harder than it first appears.
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
pick your words carefully, sir
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
TEST:
BurzumDarkthroneEmperorEnslavedImmortalMayhemSatyriconhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8Some other Norwegian Black Metal band
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ok safe (mostly) for now
hey, type "pulverize", see what happens
(pretty sure I voted Emperor based off the metal CDs my old boss loaned me; I basically hated Immortal and Enslaved and loved Emperor, Therion and Satyricon)
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
enslaved has gone through some pretty significant changes over the years tho, so it might depend on which album it was tbf
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, not u.l.v.e.r. style changes, but still
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
What if you wanted to say something about a big BM show in Culver City?
― StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
they start with the "crazy" free jazz and later, if they truly enjoy the stuff they hear, then they go back in time and learn to appreciate the more prosaic, but just as rewarding, pleasures of bop or hot jazz or whatever. once someone starts, wherever they start, you never know where thy are gonna end up.
lol this is EXACTLY me when it came to getting into jazz
― tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
first jazz record i ever bought was "go see the world" by david s. ware
yea that's totally me too wrt jazz. older brother played me 'meditations' when i was 15 or so, then i got into ayler, all that. now i'm bugging out on how cool this billie holiday boxset is that i borrowed from the library
― mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i still love the weird free shit but most jazz i listen to now is the basics
― mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I grew up on super-trad pre-bop (dad played piano in a jazz combo but was pretty reactionary [is even more so now] about most bop & everything after), got into free stuff with ESP discs in the mid-nineties, now mainly dig the west coast style
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
tempted to edit the thread title to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act. (a jazz thread)"
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
DO IT
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
or change the poll options to your favorite jazz icons
― Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8 on some thread about most changed artists over time.
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
burzum marsalis xpost
― crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
never ceases to make me happy
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
or change it to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Electro-Dribble Act."
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up ul.ver on some thread about most changed artists over time.
xpost my lack of basic memory skills are troubling. thking u mod delete ability!
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
thkin u mod undelete ability :-D
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm with dan on this one
― crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
given the context of this thread I thought it was a serious post!!!
― crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
test
mansuncardiacsulversuper furry animalsneurosisoceansizeulrich schnaussvan der graaf generator
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
wooo
aside from a one-off jhos prank it is very very unlikely that site mods are going to sub a non-site mod for lols since the non-site mod can't defend him/herself
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
make me a site mod then
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
3-year qualification period passed with flying colors obv
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
we'll get back to you on that
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 18:39 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
― country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
ok we're back: no.
― wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pico.bo.astro.it/~massimo/OABO/images/sorry
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link