Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act.

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xpost: The first wave French "Legions Noires" stuff is essential, and some of their wildest recordings came out as tape-only side projects. Good selection at the Cosmic Hearse blog.

Discovering a genre retrospectively is a strange experience. I came in on the back of Black One, but I do feel it's essential to dig back to the roots. Knowing punk pretty much from the ground up, I can appreciate the irritation with people who come out with the equivalent of "Green Day are just the greatest ever . ." But, at the end of the day, you like what you like, and I do like Xasthur.

The upside is that there is so much to explore out there. Looking at the list, I still don't think I've covered enough to make an informed choice. Of the big four, I'm aware that most of the nowadays Black Metal I like is footnotes to side one of Filosem, but I'm leaning towards Immortal: frosty production, mad riffs and fanatical, single-minded attitude. You get to the end of an album, and just want to play it all over again.

Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing is wrong with Xasthur. No one has to apologize for liking him whatever J0hn D thinks.

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link

john is only jealous because xasthur is a better breakdancer.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

both Xasthur & Green Day are actually fine btw

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

nah wait that was another BM dude wasnt it. Oh well, john's still jealous as there's 2 better breakdancers than him.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

my style is impetuous

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

but can you do what Immortal do?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/MMMMMMM_Pie/Miscellaneous/ImmortalSurfing.jpg

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

you know what's surprising to me is that the picture marduk had taken of themselves, shirtless by the pacific ocean - which century media sent out to everybody circa '04 I think - hasn't gotten the play that those immortal press photos have. can't even find 'em online but I remember getting sent them

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

People come on here an angst about whether listening to a lot of BM will cause them to develop dubious political leanings.

Actually, all that happens is that Immortal stop looking silly. (Or at least no sillier than Funkedelic, Kraftwerk, Magma . . )

Soukesian, Monday, 27 July 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.exraven.net/blackmetal/norwegian/darkthrone/images/darkthrone666.jpg

best band logo ever?

original bgm, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Mayhem's is pretty good:

http://www.legaljuice.com/MAYHEM.gif

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry BM bands, but I vote for Einstürzende Neubauten's logo.

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

xp. Check out how kvlt my bedroom window is

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv105/NAPOLEONROFL/DSC00400.jpg

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

imo the best two logos in any genre are slam-o-ram-A & korganthurus

slam-o-ram-A:

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/l_1a6705a3185a20cba5f4ed766f0c59a2.png

korganthurus:

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/634p23wef.jpg

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i would be posting more on here but i fear what other mod subs dan has cooked up for me, like mayhem is going to come up as a chicken dance youtube

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

cant remember if i voted yet, but today emperor seems like the right choice. this really is harder than it first appears.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

pick your words carefully, sir

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

TEST:

Burzum
Darkthrone
Emperor
Enslaved
Immortal
Mayhem
Satyricon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8
Some other Norwegian Black Metal band

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ok safe (mostly) for now

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, type "pulverize", see what happens

(pretty sure I voted Emperor based off the metal CDs my old boss loaned me; I basically hated Immortal and Enslaved and loved Emperor, Therion and Satyricon)

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

enslaved has gone through some pretty significant changes over the years tho, so it might depend on which album it was tbf

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, not u.l.v.e.r. style changes, but still

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

What if you wanted to say something about a big BM show in Culver City?

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

they start with the "crazy" free jazz and later, if they truly enjoy the stuff they hear, then they go back in time and learn to appreciate the more prosaic, but just as rewarding, pleasures of bop or hot jazz or whatever. once someone starts, wherever they start, you never know where thy are gonna end up.

lol this is EXACTLY me when it came to getting into jazz

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

first jazz record i ever bought was "go see the world" by david s. ware

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

yea that's totally me too wrt jazz. older brother played me 'meditations' when i was 15 or so, then i got into ayler, all that. now i'm bugging out on how cool this billie holiday boxset is that i borrowed from the library

mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i still love the weird free shit but most jazz i listen to now is the basics

mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up on super-trad pre-bop (dad played piano in a jazz combo but was pretty reactionary [is even more so now] about most bop & everything after), got into free stuff with ESP discs in the mid-nineties, now mainly dig the west coast style

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

tempted to edit the thread title to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act. (a jazz thread)"

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

DO IT

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

or change the poll options to your favorite jazz icons

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8 on some thread about most changed artists over time.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

burzum marsalis xpost

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

never ceases to make me happy

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

or change it to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Electro-Dribble Act."

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up ul.ver on some thread about most changed artists over time.

xpost my lack of basic memory skills are troubling. thking u mod delete ability!

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

thkin u mod undelete ability :-D

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm with dan on this one

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

given the context of this thread I thought it was a serious post!!!

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

test

mansun
cardiacs
ulver
super furry animals
neurosis
oceansize
ulrich schnauss
van der graaf generator

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

wooo

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

aside from a one-off jhos prank it is very very unlikely that site mods are going to sub a non-site mod for lols since the non-site mod can't defend him/herself

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

make me a site mod then

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

3-year qualification period passed with flying colors obv

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

we'll get back to you on that

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

wooo

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country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

ok we're back: no.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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