Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act.

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i still love the weird free shit but most jazz i listen to now is the basics

mark cl, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up on super-trad pre-bop (dad played piano in a jazz combo but was pretty reactionary [is even more so now] about most bop & everything after), got into free stuff with ESP discs in the mid-nineties, now mainly dig the west coast style

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

tempted to edit the thread title to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act. (a jazz thread)"

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

DO IT

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

or change the poll options to your favorite jazz icons

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GXT6tvzs8 on some thread about most changed artists over time.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

burzum marsalis xpost

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

never ceases to make me happy

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

or change it to "Favorite First Wave Norwegian Electro-Dribble Act."

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i got into trad BM as a result of somebody (scott prob) talking up ul.ver on some thread about most changed artists over time.

xpost my lack of basic memory skills are troubling. thking u mod delete ability!

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

thkin u mod undelete ability :-D

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm with dan on this one

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

given the context of this thread I thought it was a serious post!!!

crutal truth (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

test

mansun
cardiacs
ulver
super furry animals
neurosis
oceansize
ulrich schnauss
van der graaf generator

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

wooo

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

aside from a one-off jhos prank it is very very unlikely that site mods are going to sub a non-site mod for lols since the non-site mod can't defend him/herself

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

make me a site mod then

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

3-year qualification period passed with flying colors obv

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

we'll get back to you on that

Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

wooo

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country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

ok we're back: no.

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Monday, 27 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

just keep believin'

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I was just in a fritkot (belgian french fry shop) and a dangerous looking dude entered while I was waiting. His arms and neck were full of skulls and pentagrams and he was wearing this T-shirt, which I presumed was for a band:

http://www.alchemygroup.com/blowup/BT243.jpg

On the back, it said "Alchemy 1977" - which seemed pretty old for a satanistic metal band I'd never heard of, so I looked it up and it's this Goth parafernalia thing! LOL! I wish I'd known so I could have laughed and pointed at him instead of coolly nodding like I did now. :-/

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

super furry animals are one of the best black metal outfits on the scene today IMO

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

last minute of 'receptacle for the respectable' amirite

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm leaning towards Immortal: frosty production, mad riffs and fanatical, single-minded attitude. You get to the end of an album, and just want to play it all over again.

I have tons of respect for Immortal because they never let the quality control slip. Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Emperor, Gorgoroth etc all have multiple examples of utter lameness while these rediculous looking clowns tossed out seven albums in a row without a single weak track.

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2talTNLDJMI

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

That Setherial album is really good btw. Thanks for the tip.

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"I have tons of respect for Immortal because they never let the quality control slip. Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Emperor, Gorgoroth etc all have multiple examples of utter lameness while these rediculous looking clowns tossed out seven albums in a row without a single weak track."

Which is kind of funny cuz aren't the Immortal guys basically Johnny-Come-Lately scene hanger ons? Weren't they just former death metallers who realized that this was the better bandwagon?

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Immortal was the first Norwegian BM band to record an album, so not really, no.

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(even though it sounded more like Bathory than anything else)

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

(actually second album, A Blaze was a few months earlier)

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

(dumb question from a ignoramus:

what distinguishes black metal from death metal? is it just more fancy?)

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

less fancy

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

really? cuz this song has some sorta folky/fancy breakdowns...(the youtube you posted)

man i wish i could hang with metal singing post-87/88 thrash :\

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Death: growl
Black: shriek

Except when not.

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

other BM bands that are awesome but not first-wave or norwegian: negura bunget

country matters, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

not really, can be either fancy or distinctly non-fancy.
DM: brutal heavy crunchy downtuned low-pitched grunts, very percussive/riff centered
BM: trebly, raw, high pitched shrieks/rasps, centered on melodic 'flow'/atmosphere

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Raw in black metal case is also distinctly lo-fi in a lot of cases.

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

thx y'all!

ah yeah this sounds more i'mma crazy ass spooky banshee coming to haunt your shit and less i'm a growly monster from the pits of hell

but like i said for some reason it's hard for me to dig metal vocals that aren't i'm a dude from the bay area wearing tight ass jeans and big white high tops vocals

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

best of non-Norwegian Norwegian Black Metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47-MIGQvZU

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Look both up on wikipedia, you'll see more common elements than differences. A blind test would complicate things even more in some cases.

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Immortal "Battles in the North" - vocals sound like higher pitched death metal style.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 27 July 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Or Popeye.

Siegbran, Monday, 27 July 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Plague core: black death metal. :-)

StanM, Monday, 27 July 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

okay I'm listening to it right now ... and just heard several Popeye vocalizations ... lol.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Monday, 27 July 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

siegbran, what's your favorite french 90's bm? i'm looking for buying suggestions. or maybe you hate the french. some people hate the french. cuzza the war or something.

scott seward, Monday, 27 July 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Isn't there a thread on French Black Metal?

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Monday, 27 July 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link


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