Favorite First Wave Norwegian Black Metal Act.

less fancy

really? cuz this song has some sorta folky/fancy breakdowns...(the youtube you posted)

man i wish i could hang with metal singing post-87/88 thrash :\

Death: growl
Black: shriek

Except when not.

other BM bands that are awesome but not first-wave or norwegian: negura bunget

not really, can be either fancy or distinctly non-fancy.
DM: brutal heavy crunchy downtuned low-pitched grunts, very percussive/riff centered
BM: trebly, raw, high pitched shrieks/rasps, centered on melodic 'flow'/atmosphere

Raw in black metal case is also distinctly lo-fi in a lot of cases.

thx y'all!

ah yeah this sounds more i'mma crazy ass spooky banshee coming to haunt your shit and less i'm a growly monster from the pits of hell

but like i said for some reason it's hard for me to dig metal vocals that aren't i'm a dude from the bay area wearing tight ass jeans and big white high tops vocals

best of non-Norwegian Norwegian Black Metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47-MIGQvZU

Look both up on wikipedia, you'll see more common elements than differences. A blind test would complicate things even more in some cases.

Immortal "Battles in the North" - vocals sound like higher pitched death metal style.

Or Popeye.

Plague core: black death metal. :-)

okay I'm listening to it right now ... and just heard several Popeye vocalizations ... lol.

siegbran, what's your favorite french 90's bm? i'm looking for buying suggestions. or maybe you hate the french. some people hate the french. cuzza the war or something.

Isn't there a thread on French Black Metal?

http://kreationrecords.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9727

http://kreationrecords.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9720

RFI: Les Légions Noires

http://kreationrecords.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9719

should there be a swedish bm poll? would abruptum sweep?

more rare bm lps http://kreationrecords.net/index.php?main_page=products_new&zenid=c8ee1579d3254aeb97d36d2d681df113

oh okay siegbran already posted on that noires thread.

i'm just in a french bm mood.

obligatory bidet joke.

darkthrone http://kreationrecords.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9703

they probably would and I'd want to grouse at people who voted against bathory but if I'm honest I too would be voting for abruptum

maybe marduk tho

France: Deathspell Omega
Switzerland: Darkspace
Romania: Negura Bunget
Britain: Caina (but is it BM?)

Actually, my current favourite musical argument is that Hood (folksy but very mysterious indie band) are England's national answer to BM, especially from the mid-90's onwards. The comparison is extremely seductive.

massive xpost:

Vlad Tepes/Belketre split (both parts great), the Mutiilation debut. Mutiilation's "Remains..." also very good, similar to Darkthrone "Under A Funeral Moon". Rest of the Legions Noires stuff not really so good except Seviss and Black Murder, all those countless demos by the Vlad Tepes guys have their moments but also a lot of crap. Torgeist sucked. Also, there's this Norwegian band Raven who at the same time put out a very good short EP called "F.M." on No Colours that sounds just like the French, really worth getting.

Non-LN French metal from those days a bit patchy. Godkiller (from Monaco of all places) pretty good, Osculum Infame debut very good & split with Funeral too, Kristallnacht not really worth looking for, Himinbjorg a bit rediculous (vikings in France?), Celestia debut was pretty OK, Seigneur Voland & Antaeus of course great but that's hardly '90s'. Never got into Seth or Blut Aus Nord but lots of ppl seem to like them.

Fuck I said all this last year already.

yeah, but thanks anyway.

"Himinbjorg a bit rediculous (vikings in France?)"

hey, i just reviewed a new viking metal album from OHIO U.S.A.

Really rate the first Blut Aus Nord "Ultima Thulee" - nothing like their later stuff, Ulver's "Bergtatt" would be the nearest thing.

Favorite LLN side-project is Brenoritvrezorkre (and, yes, I had to look up the spelling)

louis the next time I'm bein a dick to you I want you to remember that I totally stayed chill when you compared hood to black metal

hahaha

loooooooool

recorded and noted, overreaching like that on a thread where certain posters are demonstrating near-mastery of BM understanding is possibly deserving of more scorn than it received

implied scorn rollin' like trinitrotoluene under my ass mind, it's why this dude is a writer

louis it's friendly implied scorn, you are cool with me, I got hood records in my collection to or I did until somebody stole all my cd binders

too

ugh how embarassing

ok can't spell jack right now time for me to stfu

i knew a dude who really liked hood. he was into, like, american analog set and jessamine and the like.

mom scott is trying to pick a fight with me

i was in a band that supported hood a few weeks after i got chucked out the band.

i was looking forward to the gig :(

u.k. answer to black metal would be 80's grind and crust. black and white artwork. hatred for everything. really fast. really violent. great band logos.

i like when you get the best of all worlds in one band. like skitsystem. swedish d-beat death crust metal punk. it's like one stop shopping.

really excited about the growing war crust movement for that reason.

haha i'd play a JD missing vowels game but that'd be asking for trouble

<3 etc and you are ever cool with me as well but seriously, track down those thieving bastards and reclaim your hood. the album 'rustic houses, forlorn valleys' especially sounds to me what you'd get if you took the moral and artistic aesthetic of BM and applied it to English folk traditions; it's hypnotically repetitive, songs share melodic patterns if not actual melodies, and a very English glumness (as opposed to the snowy wilds of Norway) is given an almost spiritual bearing. Where there were fuzzed, trebly electric guitars are now found clean, dour acoustic or semi-acoustic refrains, woozy horns and the occasional distorted squall. Where there were blastbeats are now jazzy but insistent plods. Where there were keyboards, there are droning violins. Where there were shrieks, there are shy and retiring mumbles, or strangled, distant moans, which convey an extremely depressive and national sort of horror, not quite as striking as damned-soul pagan concerns but deeply haunting nonetheless. Songs move in leisurely fashion, the mood barely progressing but becoming more devastatingly single-minded as each song goes on, the sheer pitch of mood rising with every subtle musical development. Even the ambient sections are racked with a desperate, claustrophobia-inducing suspense. In these regards, I would say that Hood offers a fine counterpoint to BM, and I plan to flesh my argument out further some day.

Right, now it is time for me to stfu 2. Scott carry on plz, and maybe with youtubes.

here's the REAL u.k. answer to black metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThkCalDdPIw