ultimately the artist decides how much they want to sell their music forwell, I wouldn't go that far!
Byt yeah you should know you're getting too huffily defensive when you're including "Untitled is not a title" in your list of complaints. That said, I don't think that's a terrible piece of writing really, just smug & unfocused; I mean it's a blog post from someone I've never heard of (maybe he's known to you all?).
This, otoh, took years off my life expectancy: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-case-for-listening-to-complete-discographies
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link
damn that new yorker article is playing all the hits
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
my theory was that Sault's game was flooding the listening-time of critics just when they should be recapping 2022 lol― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:09 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:09 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is good then: critics shd spend far less time (= none at all) "recapping 2022" or indeed any other year past or future
― mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link
EOEOY
― mark s, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
catching up on things they'd missed is surely fine?
― imago, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link
releasing something during a year end wrap-up season or awards season to keep it fresh in mind? wow never heard of that
next thing you know, albums will start coming out early in the year right before summer touring season and ticket sales
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link
A few good points, a few bad ones. The article is as scattershot as SAULT's latest batch of material. DO YOU SEE
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
Maybe...it IS Sault.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
It's a Sault of sorts
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
A Sault with a deadly Pepa
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link
andrew dobber morelike
― manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
Why isn't his blog called Dub and Dubber?
― jmm, Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
i really don't understand the "sault is a jam band" thing like at all
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
sault is a jam bandsomeone talking junkyo i bust 'im in the eyeand then I take the punk's blog
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
He's not from America; he doesn't understand the American definition of "jam band." He seems to mean that their songs feel like loose jams halfway thrown together right before someone presses the record button.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link
the "actually it's not just available for 5 days" bit was so petty and pedantic, who fucking cares?
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
No, you see, it will *always* be available. All you have to do is download and run torrenting software, then rip and upload lots of rare CDs to build a good enough ratio to download five albums
― insane oatmeal raisin cookie posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 November 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
Is that why I was never able to figure out how to torrent? I didn't upload anything first? what the hell is that bitcoin shit just gimme my rare music
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
y/s/I?
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
why torrent when slsk exists?
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
Shit I just paid $50 to jump the queue and now u tell me this
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
Gawd, that New Yorker article… I can’t do it, even as a “hate read”
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
lol yeah it's brutal, I was amazed it was published in 2022.
After I binged the new-ish High Fidelity tv adaptation, I thought about starting a "Rockism 2.0" thread but that nyer piece convinced me not to
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link
No rockist would prefer the Beach Boys' 1985 self-titled album to Pet Sounds.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link
it's a middle-aged symphony to rum
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
tbf that actually sounds way better than a teen-aged symphony to god
― rob, Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
this reads like someone who just ate at Olive Garden and didn't get enough parm
― | (Latham Green), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link
the psychotic heavy hitting trainspotters on slsk who don’t let you download anything and shame you for existing >>>>> torrenters with perfect logs and optimal ratio
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 3 November 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
let's just say they're all terrible people
― wearing wraparounds (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link
Sault is a jam bandby which we measure five daysI'll say it again
― budo jeru, Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Try to make ends meet
You're a slave to money and you're dumb
― blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 November 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
The style of that New Yorker article was bleh and the guy is smug as fuck but when we do albums polls around here, losing myself in an artist does feel… good.
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 November 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
that new yorker piece was written by a nerd
ofc observing an artistic process develop over the course of years-to-decades is incredibly rewarding and i do it all the time, i spend next to no time recounting the revolutionary recording techniques employed in the beatles revolver as if no one has ever heard of them before
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2022 03:59 (one year ago) link
listening to an artist's entire discography is great because it allowed me to realize that the beatles are pretty neat
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 November 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link
I admit, I like to do a discography "deep dive" occasionally. Some are casual: I just listen to each album/single/EP in chronological order over the course of a month or so. For artists I'm really interested in exploring, I'll get a bit more elaborate. I'll read a biography, use Rock's Back Pages for contemporary articles on the current album I'm listening to, find a live concert for that era. For the latter, I tend to stretch out so I'm not exclusively listening to one band all the time. The latter approach I usually use for bands I loved at one time, but haven't heard in years, and want to see how I feel as an adult. I can see why this approach would be unappealing though; it's treating an artist like a school subject, to sit down and research and plan out rather than just throwing on a record and enjoying it. What can I say, though: I'm a big history buff, so it suits me.
I saw Pavement last month, and it really reinvigorated my interest in them. I'd loved S&E and CRCR in my early 20s but am unfamiliar with other albums, and know little of their b-sides etc. I've been doing their discography since then and it's rewarding to find "new" favorite tracks from a familiar artist.
― blatherskite, Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link
Deep dives are great, it’s just the writing in that piece that’s ridiculous.
― Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Saturday, 5 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link
Or thinking deep dives is interesting enough to warrant a New Yorker article!
― insane oatmeal raisin cookie posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 5 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
I get what the writer is trying to say with this review of the new Hammock; I'm mostly curious what language it was translated out of.
For those new to Hammock, they are a dynamic duo comprised of Marc Byrd and Andrew Thompson from Nashville. They already have quite a substantial catalogue behind them; twelve releases strong already infact. Their previous work has managed to get them noticed by big time pedlars of cinematic ‘dreamscape rock’ Sigur Rós, who have subsequently worked together.Kicking the whole thing off with the aptly named track ‘Procession’, the band slowly make an entrance with a slow and steady build up. It is minimal and yet conveys everything they are about all at once. Delicately played guitar melodies softly grace the listeners ears. We are transported to their kingdom. It is gradual as if guided by hand through the gates into the domain of dream. By the time one has arrived the many layers of delicate guitar and subsequent echoes surround. There are no drums yet, which just creates the most beautifully subtle sensation of suspense.What comes next? Their album title track and it is juicy. In come the drums (which alternate somewhere between the dream-popiness of Cigaretts for Sex and certain Mogwai works in their style), in comes the distortion, and agonizingly beautiful crescendos. The melodies are haunting and soft. The slow pace coupled with the title of the track create images of longing, one heart calling out into the emptiness for another. The overall arrangement of the album is sweeping and romantic. The production quality is so delicious it is almost edible. Everything sits perfectly in the mix.
Kicking the whole thing off with the aptly named track ‘Procession’, the band slowly make an entrance with a slow and steady build up. It is minimal and yet conveys everything they are about all at once. Delicately played guitar melodies softly grace the listeners ears. We are transported to their kingdom. It is gradual as if guided by hand through the gates into the domain of dream. By the time one has arrived the many layers of delicate guitar and subsequent echoes surround. There are no drums yet, which just creates the most beautifully subtle sensation of suspense.
What comes next? Their album title track and it is juicy. In come the drums (which alternate somewhere between the dream-popiness of Cigaretts for Sex and certain Mogwai works in their style), in comes the distortion, and agonizingly beautiful crescendos. The melodies are haunting and soft. The slow pace coupled with the title of the track create images of longing, one heart calling out into the emptiness for another. The overall arrangement of the album is sweeping and romantic. The production quality is so delicious it is almost edible. Everything sits perfectly in the mix.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link
that is the exact perfect reviewing style for that sort of music tbf
― imago, Thursday, 26 January 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link
unperson, author is a woman from Bahrain, living in London. Her mother is apparently a soul singer.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 January 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link
Marilyn Haggerty's amazing Olive Garden review and the subsequent viral shitstorm
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 January 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link
The nicely cooked pasta coupled with the unlimited breadsticks create images of longing, one heart calling out into the emptiness for another. Another breadstick.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link
really wish people would back off Marilyn Hagerty tbh
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
I believe Alfred is a true fan of Marilyn's.
Hammock rules and finding the best way to talk about them -- and they are truly underrated from where I sit -- is kinda hard.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link
Jclc, you are a kind soul and your concern is warranted. But personally I don't see any meanness in the Haggerty discourse.
To me, ilx is processing its cultural anxieties in a very ilxian way. It often looks like savage mockery but I like to think it comes from a place of omnivorous curiosity and, ultimately, love. Love of the variety and complexity of contemporary existence.
Plus, breadsticks.
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
Feel free to justify Tonetta77-ing some local newspaper lady however you want
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
Agree about Hammock's musical merits, and my response to the review honestly was less "what moron wrote this shit?" than "why didn't someone edit this into a better version of itself?"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
I'm now listening to and enjoying the heretofore unknown to me band Hammock so I guess it did its job
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
Where were all you Hammock fans hiding when we did the ambient poll?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
napping obv
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link