dumbest music journalist term

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"complete with"

"everything from ___ to ___"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 10:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

"let's face it"
"admit it"
"___should break up" (except as applied to Bruce Springsteen)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

when i usedta write music reviews my most overused phrase was "i dunno".

duane, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 10:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Isnt "felching" when they suck shit up though a straw? i'm being literal. or is it a type of fisting?

okay, u guys have left out these self-indulgent adjectives: "self-indulgent," "hooky," "crisp," "jangly," "ballsy," "fresh," "summery," "smooth," "silky"

even worse, as I've read reviews of so many vastly disparate albums with these same adjectives or phrases used to describe them: "off-kilter arrangements," "eclectic rhthyms" "genre-defying", "irresistable" ("irresistable grooves" aargh) and the most overused, even though i know its necessary sometimes: "melodic" - it's just so err..generic!! Don't ask me what you can use in its place, just find more than one subtitute, if you do.

also STOP all the food adjectives please: "sugar-coated," "delicious," "tangy," "tasty," "sugary confection," "sweet melodies," "spicy beats," I DON'T WANT A MENU AND PLEASE STOP MAKING ME HUNGRY

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 12:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

nice work ryan

charlie va (charlie va), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Trip-hop", surely.

Orange, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

"outfit" to describe a band.

i always picture a bright orange department of corrections jumpsuit.

otto midnight, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

let's not forget angular or angularity.

hstencil, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"stylee"
"blissed-out"
"undie rap" (esp. as applied to anyone on a major or well-known minor label; should only be applied to rappers wearing actual undies onstage) (or juiceboxxx)
"Bizkitesque"
"obviously"

Neudonym, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"trout sniffingly bad"

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Ryan Adams"

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

i like "outfit" --> it makes me think of horse-traders in the wild west, or Billy the Kid, or something

Spiky (for hstencil)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

"of course"

grrrr.

MikeB, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Whoever said 'Aw, bless' was OTM.

Related: 'But still' and equivalents. That's just vagueness. As in 'They don't set my world on fire, but still'. But still -- what?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

'this record licks balls' is overused.

rog, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

god, it's a monster! kinda wish i hadn't started the thread since i'm totally guilty of all of these, in journalism and PR work.

ken taylrr, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

especially the 'licks balls' one. i ALWAYS say that and i gotta stop

ken taylrr, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"material breach"

kevin brady (groeuvre), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I'm on the list"

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Popular beat combo', used ironically, generally in reference to The Strokes or some band the reviewer doesn't really know of, but wishes they did.

'Popular beat combo' is an OK phrase when used seriously, though, like by people such as my Grandfather.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

TS: Kicky vs punchy

(oh and what is the difference?)

Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate's right about the need for more gay slang: could someone please find a use for "snarf". It always was a particular favourite of mine. I guess one could say that "Chris Martin sings like he's just entered an Oedipal Snarfing Championship"

Jerry (Jerry), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Snarf actually means something? Heavens, what?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

"well-crafted songs"

Johnboy, Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm happy to report I've never used "felching." otherwise, uh, yeah, most of 'em at one point or another. oops

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

"he"

"she"

"they"

dan fitz (danfitz), Thursday, 13 February 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Certainly, Lucky Pierre isn't used nearly enough.

Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

If this thread continues, pretty soon we won't be able to use any words at all, Matos! (Maybe there's a sinister implication here that no one should actually say anything about music at all!)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 13 February 2003 02:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Agreed. I understand the slight pretention and desperation for words implied in using "offering" instead of "album," but "off-kilter dynamics" seems perfectly fine to me. I mean, how many record reviews does that really appear in? Too goddamn many? I think not.

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 13 February 2003 06:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah I think lots of these words are useful, esp. Vic's

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 13 February 2003 06:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I do wonder, though, about the use of the word "pretentious," not because it's undescriptive, but because anyone who uses it runs a high risk of unwittingly describing himself. After all, we all pretend to something. As Grant Morrison once put it, "It your 'I-got-your-number-pal' act any less pretentious than what I said?" It's something to seriously consider before using the word.

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 13 February 2003 06:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

"off-kilter dynamics" seems perfectly fine to me. I mean, how many record reviews does that really appear in? Too goddamn many?

Here in CHicago, Peter Margasak uses it about once a month. He may be the only writer using it but it's too much (btw I'm not exaggerating, it's something that my friends picked up on and noticed). It's just kinda clunky and tautological. What are kilter dynamics?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Punctum"

wiseblood, Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I should just stop reading reviews (for fun), since that's what I spend a considerable portion of my free time doing (well it's changing now). When the volume of reviews you read reaches mine, then even usefully descriptive phrases start coming across as reptitive and redundant. I've read "off-kilter dynamics" or "arrangements" too many times, used to describe quite dissimilar albums. I guess there's only a limited way to express such sentiments.

Vic (Vic), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vic, you know I love you, but again I must say: huh? "Arrangements" is an overused word? You do know that "arrangements" is a real word, right? And that it has an actual meaning? Did you ever think, perhaps, that people are using the word not to annoy you, but because it describes something specific?

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, wait. I retract that. "off kilter arrangements." I get it.

Never mind. I drink too much.

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let me guess, Kenan Hebert is a writer? One perhaps guilty of a few of these transgressions?

I think what Vic meant was "off-kilter (dynamics/arrangements)".

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 13 February 2003 08:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ha! Good eye. Just like a writer to be so picky about words that he can't read them properly in context. Hence this thread.

Kenan Hebert, Thursday, 13 February 2003 08:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr Diamond is correct, sorry for the unclarity.

This is why I read reviews instead of aspiring to write them!

Vic (Vic), Thursday, 13 February 2003 08:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Snarfing is "the act of sniffing a bicycle seat after a lady has just been seated upon it"

Jerry (Jerry), Thursday, 13 February 2003 09:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

referring to a string section as "lush" or "majestic"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 10:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

(actually that's not dumb, it's just cliched)

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 February 2003 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

i always thought snarfing was when you laugh when you're in the middle of drinking and it comes out your nose,no?

robin (robin), Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sure there are snarfing e-groups on Yahoo.

Vic (Vic), Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
I've just re-read this thread and come to the sad conclusion that, were ILM to have its way, nothing would ever be written about music, ever, except perhaps in wingdings. Which kinda makes sense in a way.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"derivative" and "innovation"

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

"trope"

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Best (song,album,band) of all time"

Sami (Sami), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

All words. Also punctuation.

wl (wl), Thursday, 1 May 2003 05:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Things are better for me now, cause I found that I love music.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 1 May 2003 05:48 (twenty-one years ago) link


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