Bring On the POLL - ILM Artist Poll #116 - THE POLICE - (Results Thread)

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Sting - Fragile Live

2. Fragile - Sting
210 Points, 5 Votes, 1 Number One

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

Didn't vote as I'm only casually familiar with their discography but am happy to follow along with the rollout. Thanks Bee OK!

Indexed, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

One of Neil Tennant's favorite songs by anybody.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

I forgot “Fragile”, most likely would have voted for it. Guessing “IBFY” as number 1 then!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

Sting - Fortress Around Your Heart - 1985 (from the movie Bring On The Night)

1. Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting
445 Points, 10 Votes, 2 Number Ones

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

"Fragile" might be the closest Stinghas ever come to writing a song that sounds like a standard he is covering.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting	445	Points	10	Votes	2	Number Ones
Fragile - Sting 210 Points 5 Votes 1 Number Ones
All This Time - Sting 204 Points 5 Votes 1 Number Ones
If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting 198 Points 5 Votes
Don’t Care - Klark Kent 189 Points 4 Votes 2 Number Ones
I Advance Masked - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 168 Points 4 Votes 1 Number Ones
Fields of Gold - Sting 150 Points 4 Votes
We'll Be Together - Sting 149 Points 4 Votes
Red Rain - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland on hi-hat 132 Points 3 Votes 2 Number Ones
If I Ever Lose My Faith In You - Sting 126 Points 3 Votes 1 Number Ones
Englishman In New York - Sting 112 Points 3 Votes
Money for Nothing - Dire Straits w/Sting 109 Points 3 Votes
Away From Home - Klark Kent 96 Points 2 Votes 1 Number Ones
Children's Crusade - Sting 92 Points 2 Votes
Why Should I Cry for You? - Sting 90 Points 2 Votes 1 Number Ones
We Work the Black Seam - Sting 83 Points 2 Votes
Consider Me Gone - Sting 82 Points 2 Votes
Don’t Box Me In - Stan Ridgway w/Stewart Copeland 79 Points 2 Votes
Love Is the Seventh Wave - Sting 78 Points 2 Votes
Desert Rose - Sting 74 Points 2 Votes
Across the River - Peter Gabriel/Stewart Copeland/Shankar/David Rhodes 50 Points 1 Votes 1 Number Ones
I Burn For You - Sting 50 Points 1 Votes 1 Number Ones
Bring On the Night/When the World Is Running Down (Bring On the Night) - Sting 46 Points 1 Votes
Only You - Sting 46 Points 1 Votes
Shape of My Heart - Sting 46 Points 1 Votes
I Hung My Head – Sting 43 Points 1 Votes
Excesses - Stewart Copeland 43 Points 1 Votes
There's A Spy (In The House Of Love) - Animal Logic w/Stewart Copeland 40 Points 1 Votes
Be Still My Beating Heart - Sting 38 Points 1 Votes
The Equalizer Busy Equalizing - Stewart Copeland 38 Points 1 Votes
Long Long Way to Go - Phil Collins and Sting 36 Points 1 Votes
Big Time - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland 35 Points 1 Votes
Hardy Country - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 35 Points Votes
How Can I Forget - Andy Summers 35 Points 1 Votes
Mad About You - Sting 34 Points 1 Votes
The Soul Cages - Sting 34 Points 1 Votes
Brimstone and Treacle (Theme) - Sting 33 Points 1 Votes
China Yellow Leader - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 33 Points 1 Votes
Seven Days - Sting 33 Points 1 Votes
Brand New Day - Sting 32 Points 1 Votes
Guide - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 32 Points 1 Votes
Mr. Oysterhead - Oysterhead w/Stewart Copeland 32 Points 1 Votes
The Ballad of Mack The Knife - "Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Weill" 32 Points 1 Votes

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

1	Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting	445	10	2
2 Fragile - Sting 210 5 1
3 All This Time - Sting 204 5 1
4 If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting 198 5
5 Don’t Care - Klark Kent 189 4 2
6 I Advance Masked - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 168 4 1
7 Fields of Gold - Sting 150 4
8 We'll Be Together - Sting 149 4
9 Red Rain - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland on hi-hat 132 3 2
10 If I Ever Lose My Faith In You - Sting 126 3 1
11 Englishman In New York - Sting 112 3
12 Money for Nothing - Dire Straits w/Sting 109 3
13 Away From Home - Klark Kent 96 2 1
14 Children's Crusade - Sting 92 2
15 Why Should I Cry for You? - Sting 90 2 1
16 We Work the Black Seam - Sting 83 2
17 Consider Me Gone - Sting 82 2
18 Don’t Box Me In - Stan Ridgway w/Stewart Copeland 79 2
19 Love Is the Seventh Wave - Sting 78 2
20 Desert Rose - Sting 74 2
21 Across the River - Peter Gabriel/Stewart Copeland/Shankar/David Rhodes 50 1 1
22 I Burn For You - Sting 50 1 1
23 Bring On the Night/When the World Is Running Down (Bring On the Night) - Sting 46 1
24 Only You - Sting 46 1
25 Shape of My Heart - Sting 46 1
26 I Hung My Head – Sting 43 1
27 Excesses - Stewart Copeland 43 1
28 There's A Spy (In The House Of Love) - Animal Logic w/Stewart Copeland 40 1
29 Be Still My Beating Heart - Sting 38 1
30 The Equalizer Busy Equalizing - Stewart Copeland 38 1
31 Long Long Way to Go - Phil Collins and Sting 36 1
32 Big Time - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland 35 1
33 Hardy Country - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 35
34 How Can I Forget - Andy Summers 35 1
35 Mad About You - Sting 34 1
36 The Soul Cages - Sting 34 1
37 Brimstone and Treacle (Theme) - Sting 33 1
38 China Yellow Leader - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 33 1
39 Seven Days - Sting 33 1
40 Brand New Day - Sting 32 1
41 Guide - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp 32 1
42 Mr. Oysterhead - Oysterhead w/Stewart Copeland 32 1
43 The Ballad of Mack The Knife - "Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Weill" 32 1

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

"Fortress Around Your Heart" is a catchy motherfucker. What a chorus!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

Going to try one more.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

Place, Points, Votes, Number Ones, Song - Artist

1	445	10	2	Fortress Around Your Heart - Sting
2 210 5 1 Fragile - Sting
3 204 5 1 All This Time - Sting
4 198 5 If You Love Somebody Set Them Free - Sting
5 189 4 2 Don’t Care - Klark Kent
6 168 4 1 I Advance Masked - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp
7 150 4 Fields of Gold - Sting
8 149 4 We'll Be Together - Sting
9 132 3 2 Red Rain - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland on hi-hat
10 126 3 1 If I Ever Lose My Faith In You - Sting
11 112 3 Englishman In New York - Sting
12 109 3 Money for Nothing - Dire Straits w/Sting
13 96 2 1 Away From Home - Klark Kent
14 92 2 Children's Crusade - Sting
15 90 2 1 Why Should I Cry for You? - Sting
16 83 2 We Work the Black Seam - Sting
17 82 2 Consider Me Gone - Sting
18 79 2 Don’t Box Me In - Stan Ridgway w/Stewart Copeland
19 78 2 Love Is the Seventh Wave - Sting
20 74 2 Desert Rose - Sting
21 50 1 1 Across the River - Peter Gabriel/Stewart Copeland/Shankar/David Rhodes
22 50 1 1 I Burn For You - Sting
23 46 1 Bring On the Night/When the World Is Running Down (Bring On the Night) - Sting
24 46 1 Only You - Sting
25 46 1 Shape of My Heart - Sting
26 43 1 I Hung My Head – Sting
27 43 1 Excesses - Stewart Copeland
28 40 1 There's A Spy (In The House Of Love) - Animal Logic w/Stewart Copeland
29 38 1 Be Still My Beating Heart - Sting
30 38 1 The Equalizer Busy Equalizing - Stewart Copeland
31 36 1 Long Long Way to Go - Phil Collins and Sting
32 35 1 Big Time - Peter Gabriel w/Stewart Copeland
33 35 Hardy Country - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp
34 35 1 How Can I Forget - Andy Summers
35 34 1 Mad About You - Sting
36 34 1 The Soul Cages - Sting
37 33 1 Brimstone and Treacle (Theme) - Sting
38 33 1 China Yellow Leader - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp
39 33 1 Seven Days - Sting
40 32 1 Brand New Day - Sting
41 32 1 Guide - Andy Summers and Robert Fripp
42 32 1 Mr. Oysterhead - Oysterhead w/Stewart Copeland
43 32 1 The Ballad of Mack The Knife - "Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Weill"

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

More to come...

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

I thought "Fragile" was too slick to do anything for me, but I gave it another shot just now...if you mentally isolate the vocal, I can see the appeal. Like that melody is actually beautiful and can be moving (and do justice to the song's inspiration - an American civil engineer who was killed by the Reagan-backed Contras while working on a hydroelectric project in Nicaragua).

I just think the way they recorded it is too glossy. The delicate backing is devoid of emotion - it's an overly tasteful backdrop that feels like a poor match to what the song's supposed to do. And the little prettifying touches like the chimes at the end feel like a lapse in judgment.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

"Fortress Around Your Heart" is a catchy motherfucker. What a chorus!

Yeah, this is another keeper for me. My three favorite tracks on Turtles and "All This Time" are pretty much all I need anymore from solo Sting.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

I think it was sort of foolish of me to think that an album outside of the band would crack the Top 5.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

22 Album Ballots Received

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ztwfktY.jpg

5. Outlandos d'Amour
126 Points, 18 Votes, 1 Number One

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

I didn't vote in the solo poll due to my lack of knowledge about Stuart and Andy's extra-curricular stuff, but a little gutted that my favourite Sting solo track, 'They Dance Alone', missed the cut.

aphoristical, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

I don’t get the love for “All This Time” at all. It’s fine enough for early 90s VH-1 fare but the creaky river metaphor and Paul Simon-isms of the verse (who himself loved a river metaphor) feel, well, secondhand. The arrangement is pedestrian and snare drum irritatingly insistent. And while the chorus is memorable I don’t find it particularly catchy.

“Fragile” OTOH …

might be the closest Stinghas ever come to writing a song that sounds like a standard he is covering.

Possibly my favorite of all his songs … but I also forgot it!

I thought "Fragile" was too slick to do anything for me, but I gave it another shot just now...if you mentally isolate the vocal, I can see the appeal. Like that melody is actually beautiful and can be moving (and do justice to the song's inspiration - an American civil engineer who was killed by the Reagan-backed Contras while working on a hydroelectric project in Nicaragua).

I just think the way they recorded it is too glossy. The delicate backing is devoid of emotion - it's an overly tasteful backdrop that feels like a poor match to what the song's supposed to do. And the little prettifying touches like the chimes at the end feel like a lapse in judgment.


This is a great post. In general, the melodies on …Nothing Like the Sun are strong but the production is way too smooth. When it works—like on “Be Still My Beating Heart”—it’s super sultry and throbbing. But when it doesn’t the whole thing really betrays a self-seriousness that the cover portrait kind of gives away.

The Soul Cages production is weirdly out of whack too. The Northumbrian pipes meant to evoke the shipyards of his childhood are a nice touch but the record still sounds like he tried to make a record of tone poems about his youth and mortality but mostly just ended up writing a bunch of gloomy midlife crisis ballads.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/2NQootb.jpg

4. Synchronicity
147 Points, 19 Votes, 2 Number Ones

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:33 (one year ago) link

I remember decoding the imagery on the sleeve as a teen - different for LP/CD/CS if I recall correctly

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link

different cover variations on the LPs as well

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link

Feels about right - Outlandos and Synchronicity both have some amazing songs but I feel like those two also have some of the worst things they ever did? I mean I remember wincing at 'Sally' when I was 10, and it's only got more cringe with age

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

I had this on cassette and thinking the same thing. So much filler was on this album.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link

But the good songs are great and the bonus was awesome too.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

one confession, I can't sing 'walking In Your Footsteps' in my head anymore without it turning into 'hakuna matata' halfway through

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/nsxaQ9G.jpg

3. Zenyattà Mondatta
164 Points, 20 Votes, 4 Number Ones

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Where I had it but surprising nonetheless. You could argue Zenyatta is their best.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/WTCq0Gg.jpg

2. Ghost in the Machine
174 Points, 20 Votes, 7 Number Ones

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8ZY60TS.jpg

1. Reggatta de Blanc
190 Points, 22 Votes, 7 Number Ones

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link

Place, Points, Votes, Number Ones, Album

1	190	22	7	Reggatta de Blanc
2 174 20 7 Ghost in the Machine
3 164 20 4 Zenyattà Mondatta
4 147 19 2 Synchronicity
5 126 18 1 Outlandos d'Amour
6 10 1 1 The Soul Cages - Sting
7 8 1 ...Nothing Like The Sun - Sting
8 8 1 Klark Kent
9 7 1 Dream of the Blue Turtles - Sting
10 6 1 Message in a Box: The Complete Recordings

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Zero votes for "Russians" lol

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link

Fascinating that so many love Zenyatta when they always used to talk about it as a rush job and slapped together between tours. There are a fair few “feel pieces” but they seem to have aged better than a lot of the lesser “proper songs”.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:15 (one year ago) link

Yeah it’s a cool record if you just wanna hear them play.

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

The order of the albums almost matched my ballot, but I had #s 4 and 5 flipped.

I think that was exactly mine. Outlandos definitely my #5 but that's a pretty good worst album to have.

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link

I didn't include albums on my ballot, but Outlandos would've been my #1. It the least fussy of all their albums and I admire that (which means I'm probably seeking out the wrong qualities in The Police). It's the only one I ever play with no skips.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 04:42 (one year ago) link

I do dig the early-installment weirdness on it. there are several directions on that album they'd never go in again.

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 04:48 (one year ago) link

yeah i’d swap outlandos with zenyatta, zenyatta kinda gives up after the first 4 tracks

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link

Zenyatta was my pick. That scrappy, raggedy sound on "When The world is Running Down..." is heaven to my ears.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 10:25 (one year ago) link

Albums results are about right imo

By the way, the Eva Cassidy cover of "Fields of Gold" seems to have had a longer shelf life (in terms of TV / movie use and general lovability) than the Stingster's.

Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 11:06 (one year ago) link

Was surprised to find Outlandos ranked so low. But it was my gateway into the band, so maybe I have an outsized sense of its rep generally. The highs are really high! I admit that Born in the 50s, and the spoken-word part of Be My Girl, are kind of unbearable.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link

The BBC often used to have humorous poets with regional accents on early evening light entertainment shows - I'm thinking of Pam Ayers etc - and 'Sally' always make me think I've just accidentally caught the tail-end of That's Life and some joker's doing a bad knock-off of 'In Every Dream Home A Heartache'. It is quite impressive how much of the shittest bits of Britain in the late 70s are encapsulated in that piece

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

That scrappy, raggedy sound on "When The world is Running Down..." is heaven to my ears.

Mine too — I ranked that song VERY high on the tracks ballot. And I like the album, but it is a bit of a hodgepodge and I don't love its big singles.

Thirded, voted for that track but also had the album as my #1. I thought it was uneven when I first heard it, but it's all grown on me and wouldn't change a thing. I know the Police don't think highly of it because of the deadline pressure but in retrospect I wonder if that helped. They didn't labor too much over anything, and they had to fall back on what they did easiest/best. Great rhythms, great hooks, for the most part nothing they messed with too much, much to the album's benefit.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Doing a Top 40, which is really too many. I did a Top 60 when I ran Daft Punk earlier this year and the 60th placement only had three votes. But that is a different animal and that was the right length, good collaborations in the bottom half of that poll but I digress. The Police poll has a floor of four votes, which works. This way we get all number ones in the main rollout, where if I went for only 30 then some would have missed the rollout.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xmDJBpK.jpg

40. Mother
From: Synchronicity
Released: June 17, 1983
110 Points, 4 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

I didn’t know how I wanted this poll to look. There aren’t a lot of different band shots and video shots did intrigue me. I finally decided to go with movie posters from the year the song came out. I would not say 1978- 1983 is a golden age for Hollywood but there are some pretty good posters. I did mess up a bit as these are gross US numbers so some films do bleed into to more then one year. I don’t think I will repeat a poster however.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

too high

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

solo is awesome tho

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link


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