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i've decided that kish kash = musical equivalent of a puppet show

colourful, intricately carved characters - some grotesque, but all mesmerising - performing against a garish but ultimately flat, 2D landscape. the puppets are the vocalists, the backdrop is...well, everything else

i've been living with the CD for a week now, giving it due priority. It still hasn't possessed me tho', the initial thrill hasn't transformed into love. Even now, i can only recall how four or five of the tracks go. I mentioned upthread that i thought the mastering had gone wrong. I actually think it's the production itself that's at fault. The sound is muffled, no brightness at all to the treble, the beats are all sustain and no attack, the bass rumbles somewhere underground. To some extent, that's the jaxx sound ("rendez-vous" on 'remedy' for example also has those soft beats) but here I think it's fatal to the cause. If you're going to have a 'busy' sound (as Tom puts it) - not to mince words, if you're going to give us prog-house - then the details need to be crystal clear. And they're not. There's just this mass of sound in a single plane, standing about two feet behind the vocals. I'm not saying the sound is too cluttered, every note that's there should be there, but you just can't locate it spatially.

(i'm now wondering if the analog version on vinyl might do the music more justice. I'm seriously considering trading up. anyone want my CD copy? That said, i expect it won't make too much difference, the instruments were no doubt recorded digitally)

what saves the album are the - very analog - vocals. These sound just fine and what performances they are, from everyone: it's not Me'Shell who 'owns' her songs, as Dan put it, all the singers, inc. Felix, do the same with theirs, severing their puppeteer's strings in the process, and taking over the show...

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link

(The hell with Dizzee's collab. I prefer Vitalic VS Dizzee.)

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

if the mass of sound was any more spatially seperated it wouldn't sound like house at all. imagine "plug it in" with the synths and guitars and chimey sounds all seperated out - you'd just have these zings and swoops pulling all willy-nilly across the stereo field. it might be a cool effect, like the last two minutes of autechre's "vose in", but it'd also lack the propulsive force of a "mass of sound in a single plane". you'd have to put a big thumping 808s or something behind it to have it make sense as a beat, and what'd be the point of that?

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

so maybe i'm saying it shouldn't sound like house at all. so the question becomes, what is kish kash for? most of it's certainly not for your living room

i would be interested to know if anyone's playing it in clubs (these versions, i mean, not remixes - if such exist)

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

unless you like to dance around your living room in your underwear, although i have also given it many spins in the car.

i gave copies of this album to my favorite local DJs months ago. they were excited to get have the album and i imagine they listen to it but they haven't shown any interest in playing it out. one of them played dizzee's track the night i gave it to him but the club was basically empty.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

i still can't get my head around the negativity with this album other than kneejerk reaction to the unbridled love all over this thread

i would be caning 'right here's the spot' if i was DJing regularly right now, also 'Supersonic', 'Cish Cash' - i mean ffs what's better to dance to than this stuff?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

Right now? Not a thing, Steve. Can't wait to own a copy myself.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

what is kish kash for? most of it's certainly not for your living room

But my living room is where I play all my super-fast sports car racing games

nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link

the living room is for sofas and love seats

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

I really hope they make a radio edit of "Plug It In." If it was just one minute shorter...

(hi fans!)

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link

I wish "Cish Cash" went on for 20 minutes.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

it's gone in at number 17 in the album charts !!

what does this tell us about internet 'piracy' and dance-fans ?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

It tells me that they fucked up by not releasing the single before the album.

How does this compare to the performance of the last two, though?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

it would be pretty easy for me to tot up how many times the album was downloaded from the location at which it was temporarily hosted. it really is not that many actually. but out of those who has bought the album since? i have yet to but rest assured i will.

'Remedy' and 'Rooty' were both Top 10 albums i think.

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

It tells me that they fucked up by not releasing the single before the album.

That's for sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

omg they're playing Brighton beach this Friday night and live on Radio 1?!

TEMPTED

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

anyone know why they haven't announced a manc date yet ?
there must be a reson but...why ?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

< slightly biased> Because everywhere else roxx and Manchester's gay? < /slightly biased>

Hey Steve, if you're not tempted enough, Zongamin and others are live at the ICA that night. If you wanna hit Brighton, I'm up for it...

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

probably wouldn't be able to get down there til 8 tho so would surely miss most of their set - maybe better to listen on radio (will most likely be brass monkeys on the beach too) - i can wait for the December show i spose

Zongamin tho, NOW THERE is an idea

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Was trying to find Ben (my Aussie mate from the Rapture show) but he's vanished. Even staking out the Virgin Megastore he works at hasn't changed matters.

I bought that Nikita Warren Jaxx 12" but haven't heard it yet, and I spotted the Cooly's Hot Box one too. Will I be happy with 'em?

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

Steve, zongamin plays at the ICA tomorrow night, being friday 31 october. Coming?

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link

yeh! just sent u a txt about it because he's not listed on the ICA website - what's the deal?

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:40 (twenty years ago) link

the Nikita Warren mix is mighty fine - dunno about Hot Box

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand questions like "what is kish kash for".


It's for listening to! Does anyone actually think "I wish to ride a horse, perhaps some jeff mills, then home for sherry and groove armada".

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

ie the music is a million times more important than whatever silly crap I decide to do while listening to it

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno what the deal is, but he was listed on a flyer I picked up. I'll swing by after work to get details/tickets.

Ronan's otm.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

DJs not playing tracks off this album are BAD DJs and hellbound

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link

RE: gig - I'll letcha know tomorrow or this evening even. Still no Ben, however. I agree that there are a lot of hellbound DJs in this world right now.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:45 (twenty years ago) link

Freelance Hellraiser 2: Hellbound.

Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

haha

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

DJ Hell would have worked better.

(sorry)

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

To Steve: will go by after work today, they hadn't confirmed details last night, so I'll call ya later. Gotta get back to work now.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
from Billboard.com:

'N Sync's JC Chasez will kick off a brief club tour Dec. 3 in San Diego to build anticipation for his debut solo album, "Schizophrenic," due Jan. 27 via Jive.

The album's first single "Some Girls (Dance With Women)" featuring Dirt McGirt will be serviced to U.S. radio outlets Dec. 1 for airplay consideration. Chasez's other cohorts on "Schizophrenic" include producers Alex Greggs and Brad Daymond, Robb Boldt, Rockwilder, Basement Jaxx and BT.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh good. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link

hott!

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Nice.

The big draw for Jaxx fans here is whether or not they'll give him something more in line with Kish Kash or the relatively unsuprising remixes they did while making the album. A recent article did hint at a more nu-Jaxx style, though it may hve been talking about 'Plug It In' instead.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link

who knows, maybe it's just "Plug It In"? I haven't seen a tracklist. There is a song streaming at his site: http://jcchasez.net/

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

it's "Some Girls (Dance With Women)" which is pretty great.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

nb - I have no idea if the Jaxx produced that one (not likely)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

OMG, the hair. And that coat!

Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

d k to thread.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

JC's "ADIDAS" is pretty hot.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Thoughts on the album title? I get what he's trying to say, and I s'pose it's betta than 'Multifaceted' or something, but well...it beats Justified's working title (Out Of the Blue...I really saw this on a LILY promo this week!).

Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone heard the Jaxx house mix of Lucky Star, ROUND ROUND ROUND WE GOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

ewwww...bt?!

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

C'mon, man, it'll get that Tori fanbase into JC.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:34 (twenty years ago) link

Unlikely, as I don't think their collab got such fans into BT...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link

Now this is true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 November 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
who else has heard "mere pass," the "good luck" b-side?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

Is "Mere Pass" any good - describe it please.

Any idea whether Basement Jaxx plan to release a bsides/remix compilation for Kish Kash after all the singles have been released - like they did for Rooty and Remedy - it's one of the many things I love the Jaxx for.

jedmond, Friday, 23 January 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link


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