Defend Phil Collins

oh damn lmao xp

Blames Everything On Illegal Aliens

lol

Billy, Don't Lose Dignitas' Number

Jesus, I Knew Him

Duke's Retirement

Man of Old Times

You Can't Hurry

A Gravely Kind Of Laugh

Dawdle into the Light

hee hee

Turn It (My Pacemaker) On Again

Second Nursing Home By The Sea

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain)

You're No Son of Mine (Dementia Remix)

He seems to have that visible gut, yeah

Something Happened on the Way to the Buffet

The “dance into the light” cover eradicated my ability to enjoy his earlier work

First, he's not dead. Second, this rules:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnZD4mMRDY

(ruling starts around 1:18)

It does.

That whole album... Esp Firth Of Fifth.

Original mix is back in-print thanks to Analogue Productions. Kind of pricey though

Thought for second there was like a trending TikTok cover version of longtime CVS Jam "Dance Into The Light"...

I keep reading this thread title as "Defund Phil Collins"

ABACAB

Defun Phil Collins

Prog Phil is just too much for me to process, can’t enjoy it

Hello, I Must Be Gnoming

In sum, it doesn't appear that Phil Collins needs much defending.

He's no stranger to you and me

EPIC TOM FILL

Heard "Invisible Touch" in the car yesterday: embarrassed pleasure at the time, still sounds good (the grain of the voice and all that). I started thinking about the recent photos of Collins that occasionally pop up on my FB wall: a kindly old British gentleman surrounded by his grandchildren. That got me to doing that timeline game: we're as far from "Invisible Touch" today as "Invisible Touch" was from George Formby. That's how someone young would look at Phil Collins today, right? He's George Formby.

Well so is Nick Cave

I guess true of anybody from 1986, but doesn't Nick Cave still sort of try to look like he used to? (I looked at a few online photos.) He doesn't look very grandfatherly.

(And believe me, trying to look like you used to is not preferable.)

not to cause an existential crisis but yeah it's wild to think that the amount of time between Invisible Touch and say, Revolver is the same amount of time between now and "Float On" by Modest Mouse

Would any performer of Formby's generation have played to crowds in their 70s like those that saw Genesis a year or two ago?

The performers in their 70s, not the crowds (mostly).

These kinds of calculations always fascinate me. The thing they often lead me back to is that the music I loved as a kid, all the late '60s and early '70s pop, is still everywhere today. But I don't recall hearing Rudy Vallee and Harry Lauder and Fred Waring's Pennsylvanians when I was a kid. (I know--thanks, Boomer.)

(It was just a casual formulation, Halfway--I'm sure you can pick it apart a million ways.)

We're actually making the same point there.

I don't reject the formulation or calculation, but as you say it shows a change in how music lives on or is disposed of now.

The oldest music I remember from the "Adult Contemporary" AM radio in the 1970s was maybe the Andrews Sisters, less than 40 years old at that time, and maybe a handful of 50s leftovers.

They would have gotten a huge boost from Bette Midler's hit cover...I should clarify that if '20s music was being played in the early '70s, it would have passed me by anyway. All I listened to was CHUM on the AM dial.

Not sure what the radio format was where I heard "Invisible Touch" yesterday...FM dial, the kind of station that doesn't go earlier than the '80s, I think.

There has been that kind of thing before, as Dixieland trad Jazz was a fairly popular party music in the 50s and early 60s. In an interview I saw with bassist Steve Swallow he talked about playing with some early players who played with Bix etc doing some of these party’s in college.

Things definitely come back 50 years later that are clearly thought of as nostalgia or retro or whatever--thinking of that horrible Cherry Poppin' Daddies hit from the '90s. Not sure if something like "Invisible Touch" is heard or presented the same way. (Meaning, literally, I'm not sure.)

Which, if it isn't, contradicts my original post...this is just way too complicated.

Makes me think of when Lorde told Marc Maron how much she loved Phil Collins' music and he was incredulous.