Yomanda even, thx autocorrect
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 11 February 2023 10:08 (one year ago) link
I'll be third in this gang. I've long really liked his work but I developed an even stronger interest when a) an old friend declared my own beloved Synth & Strings her favourite track of all time, so it sort of become 'our' track for quite a while and b) I got really into hardbag as a thing in and of itself, which meant I gave more time of day to Candy Girls and Amen! UK than I had before.
xps I always think of Get a Move On as the first electro swing track, which I know isn't by any means accurate.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link
Between 'Doop' and 'Get A Move On' there is Apollo 440's 'Krupa'
― nashwan, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link
(and is just as amazing as either)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link
I never really thought of Get A Move On as electro swing, probably because the Moondog sample isn’t as obnoxiously retro as someone like Caravan Palace.Either way that whole scene sucked from my brief experiences with it - chancers throwing together incredibly slapdash electro-swing on Ableton mainly to get sets (and therefore free tickets) on the uk small festival circuit all summer. Seemed like a load of posh boys from money slumming it in wacky sequinned blazer and captains hat combo’s, kind of like an Eton lost vagueness. The live band Gypsy Swing side of things, while not my kind of thing definitely harboured a lot more talent./rant.Re: Recent TOTP, Dina Carroll’s ‘The Perfect Year’ is up there with Whitney ‘I Will Always Love You’ and Marian’s ‘I Can’t Live’. She doesn’t seem to have been remembered at all though?
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 11 February 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
The thing with Dina Carroll is that she had/has a stunning singing voice, but her singles always seemed to be dreary ballads with cloying, syrupy production. The album track she played on the show a couple of weeks ago was much better, so maybe there are other things to discover from her.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 11 February 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link
The one actual electro swing track that does anything for me is Gramophonedize's Why Don't You - which probably borrows more from Audio Bullys' Shot You Down.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 11 February 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link
Ah thanks, heard that in a Little Boots set at the time and never knew what it was until now.
― nashwan, Saturday, 11 February 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link
came across this podcast episode about “Synths & Strings” with Paul Masterson as a guest on Spotify:Soundcloud link
― i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Saturday, 11 February 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link
Thanks for the link. I first heard this only a short while ago but got distracted iirc so am listening again in full now.
To tie this to the TOTP chat, he has an anecdote around 20m that S&S was issued by Manifesto on the same day as Dina Carroll's Without Love, and the label were both wanting and expecting Dina to outchart Yomanda and were furious when it didn't happen. Dina's last top 20 hit, sadly.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 11 February 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link
Dina was MASSIVE in the early 90s wasn't she, seems to be on TOTP every other week.
― chap, Monday, 13 February 2023 09:36 (one year ago) link
Doop of course stole the idea from Cajemere - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwtCsg-NfRM
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 February 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CUYXzLm7WE
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 13 February 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link
The thing with Dina Carroll is that she had/has a stunning singing voice, but her singles always seemed to be dreary ballads with cloying, syrupy production.
Been thinking about how much of this was around in the 90's, and how you could view it as the return of pre-Rock Pop values. Ballads of the 70's and 80's tended to be in closer conversation with the Pop styles of the day, but there's nothing New Jack Swing or Acid House about any of this stuff, it is v self-conciously "classy" and aiming for a timeless feel where timeless means "sounds like a crooner". You can tie in career revivals for Tony Bennent and Nat King Cole (posthoumously) into this as well I guess.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 2 March 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link
1st episode tonight the worst in a long while.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 10 March 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link
It was tough going
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 10 March 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
I can imagine the ego salving conversation the producers had with Michael Bolton / Michael Bolton's "people" re him introducing the show: "OK so we'd like Michael, er, Mr Bolton to introduce the show and announce that Barbara Striesand is going to be on. But then he'll perform last for an unreasonably long time with a terrible cover version so really he's the most important act on the show, OK?"
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 11 March 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link
2nd episode was kind of rough as well.
the 1980 one though was hit after hit, all things you still hear, 42 years later.
― koogs, Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link
Janice and John presenting the 1985 one. both dead now.
― koogs, Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:12 (one year ago) link
Dismal last night - never in human history have so many session musicians displayed such gritted-teeth fake enthusiasm. The rest of it made a minor 2 Unlimited hit and sodding Stiltskin seem like the bleeding edge of musical innovation.
― chap, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
Carry Me Home is one of the best singles ever, but it wasn't the best performance of it. A bit too croaky and mixed a bit too high.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 18 March 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link
In 1994 I was living in a shared house where one of my housemates had cable TV. Among the channels was The Box - 'Music television you control' - in other words a fairly basic video request channel. People would phone a number and then dial a three digit number to select a particular video. For about a month in 1994 it seemed like the only two videos they played were Prodigy's 'No Good' and General Levy's 'Incredible'.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link
At some point we'll get to see the episode of TOTP where Levy gets the audience to chant "booyaka booyaka".
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link
Definitely better this week. Overall there was a lot to love tonight.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 24 March 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
Swamp Thing! In my memory I'd written it off as a slightly annoying novelty, turns out it was in fact an absolute tune.
― chap, Saturday, 25 March 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
I remember The Box well, but from a few years later than Snoball. Home of 'No Way No Way' by Vanilla.
― chap, Saturday, 25 March 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link
1994 episodes dire again.
1981 contained good things i haven't thought about since, well, 1981. the bad manners, the hazel o'connor. and i don't think i'd ever heard that version of John I'm Only Dancing. and teardrop explodes at #8 in the chart (not played but...)
― koogs, Saturday, 25 March 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link
Swamp Thing is really terrific. It also led a trend of (mostly bad) country Eurodance-y type things; although only Two Cowboys (in a week or two) and later Rednex did really well, there was also Bravado's Harmonica Man (37 in June) and 2 in a Tent's When I'm Cleaning Windows (25 in December), the latter of which, while not country obv, is still the most obvious ST descendant.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 25 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
strangely enough I loved Swamp Thing at the time and didn't care for it much last night.otoh there was 'Babies' which is still one of my favourite songs, really happy to see that.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 25 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
Enjoyed some bits of these even if it was mostly mediocre. Mariah's performance really stood out to me.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 26 March 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link
I associate Pulp too much with the dreary dominance of Britpop to fully love them, but realise that's unfair - Jarvis is/was an incredible performer and yes babies is a bit of a banger.
One of many odd minor editorial choices in this era is only giving the viewers the name of the EP rather than the song from it being performed, cf Babies.
― chap, Sunday, 26 March 2023 12:37 (one year ago) link
I think that whether or not you support Manchester United, or care about footy at all, we can all agree "Come On You Reds" is a gorgeous piece of music.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link
It's a race for the remote whenever that one pops up for me. Fingers in ears and lalala to drown it out. Visceral hatred. Granted I'm a Liverpool fan but I don't think it's entirely that
― or something, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link
and now you've got it stuck in my head again thanks
― or something, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 11:00 (one year ago) link
Schemiechel, Parker, PallisterIrwin, Sharpe, Bruce and InceHughes, McClair, Keane and CantonaRobson, Kanchelskis and Giggs...
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36msFlBRTI
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
I've always felt that Angus Deayton's presenting style is this washing machine advert and very little else.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 31 March 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
I liked him on it tbh. Overall first episode was far better. The second peaked in the opening three minutes (though, admittedly, so did the first) and bottomed out on the forever horrendous Cleopatra's Cat.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 31 March 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
hated Deayton, his snarky remarks about Robert Palmer were a low point
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 31 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
Just catching up on recent episodes - what was with the butchering of large chunks of the verses on ‘Babies’? Don’t remember that when it aired in the 90’s.
― Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Friday, 31 March 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
didn't notice that when it aired last week
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 31 March 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link
Oasis - what if Slade were knobheads?
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 7 April 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
I wonder why people bother covering Cameo's 'Word Up'? The original is perfect. Gun's version here is better than Mel B's attempt from 1999 but still it just sounds like a cover a band would throw into a live set to mix things up. Their cover version of Hot Chocolate's 'Every 1's A Winner' - which they also released as a single - is a similar mix of competency and head scratching "why would anyone do this?".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkBXas4YL4
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 14 April 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
I prefer Alan Vega's approach of ignoring the tune... and the words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA7z-rSYxjQ
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 14 April 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
the 1978 show was like punk never happened
― koogs, Saturday, 15 April 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
the Gun version is one of two covers I can think of that was later supplanted by a soundalike for a similar audience (Korn)
the other is how Tiesto shoved aside Orbit/Corsten's Adagio for Strings (not as much a soundalike as Korn to Gun admittedly, but definitely the same audience in theory).
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 April 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link
the Julian Cope was an odd thing, one for being a random album track and another for his performance (which the audience seemed to enjoy)
― koogs, Monday, 17 April 2023 06:33 (one year ago) link
What DID totp bloke think your dad would be saying about Julian Cope? I think my dad would have prob called him a poser.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 17 April 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link
Gun, weirdly, had among the most enthusiastic fans in the TOTP audience I've seen.
― chap, Monday, 17 April 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link