I'm just chuffed that Case/Lang/Veirs didn't get this hype
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 3 April 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
come on darlin, hear me darlinthis thread's a waste of time for me
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 April 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link
Three women harmonzing = Wilson Phillips? OK.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, April 3, 2023 9:44 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
You're right, that was an unfair comparison. I usually remember Wilson Phillips songs five minutes after I hear them
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link
TS a hypothetical band called Puny Tyrant who sound like zoomer Wilson Philips vs Boygenius
― soref, Monday, 3 April 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
Puny Tyrant consists of Amanda Palmer and two fans who paid their life savings for a spot in the group
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 3 April 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link
Case/Lang/Veirs = awesome/awesome/awesome
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
It's funny, I've also thought of that album as a comparison point... I should revisit it.
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
it's terrific.
i don't agree with "Zoomer Wilson Phillips" but that was a good line
― alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
i want to go to sleep forever inside "Blue Fires"
― alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
I'm just chuffed that Case/Lang/Veirs didn't get this hype― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, April 3, 2023 6:47 AM
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, April 3, 2023 6:47 AM
lol otm
(i have zero interest in the boygenius material, but only because i am a stick in the mud)
― ''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
The Rolling Stone cover story surprised me, but I see it as a combination of appealing biographies, good reputations for songwriting, and timing.
I like the album but recognize how smart, mostly acoustic tunes may not resonate in 2022, especially if like Paul you want "groundbreaking" (a quality dependent on the writer's attitude toward the music specifically and singularity generallly).
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
There are a lot of thoughtful ways to be critically write about the hype cycle without attacking artists personally for benefiting from it. I think weaker writers are less capable of avoiding the latter. It’s not like boygenius is pushing other ascendant artists down the stairs on the way to the top. It’s not like their feelings are false and their fans are lying because it doesn’t make others feel the same way.
― omar little, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
If boygenius did push anyone down some stairs I stand corrected.
― omar little, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
I had never heard of any of the people in boygenius until a friend posted a video in 2020 of slowly driving through Providence, listening to “Me & My Dog.” That track is unstoppable pathos for me, and at the height of the pandemic’s first year, it had some resonance with my own personal feelings. That is, I agree with imago about a certain element of what he’s saying— hearing these sorts of records organically assures my ears will be open and not in thrall to the expectations or exuberance of critics.
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
Blame the hypers not the hyped.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
“I think [hyped album] is very mid, sorry” is essentially “modern distro models allow me to find several more-obscure examples of the genre/style of [hyped album], however they reach my specific taste preferences more directly, thus I wish they got the hype instead of [hyped album artist]”.
I’m sure there are numerous pre-streaming-era examples, but Gen Xers who attended college in the mid-90s may recall being told “You think Alanis is good? You need to hear Ani DiFranco!”; with a more modern version being “Yeah, Big Thief is fine, but it would be great if the same critical love was thrown at (for me, anyway) Trace or Art School Girlfriend…”
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
Not to make too much of the comparison btw these acts, but I would quibble that Case & Lang, at least, aren't/weren't any more obscure than even the most famed Boygenius member (although granted didn't have the same "heat" at the time).
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Monday, 3 April 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
PB is capable of filling 5000+ cap amphitheaters across the country.
Neko has never been that big. (Love her, of course.) Lang, maybe ... but that was a long time ago.
Or maybe I'm reading what you're saying wrong? Entirely possible!
― alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link
Well fair enough!
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link
(Btw – I re-listened to Case/Lang/Viers today, and it is really good; although also the sort of album that seems destined to be less "buzzy" for aesthetic reasons. It happens to have received the exact same Pitchfork score as Boygenius's LP – though doesn't have a "Best New Music" tag, if they were doing that then.)
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
case/lang/veirs were all in their mid-40s or older when that record came out
perhaps not too unusual that it didn't generate buzz with the kids
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link
Perhaps, but isn’t that’s part of the “complaint”when it comes to certain artists being hyped(?) Nothing’s stopping RS from putting artists that age on the cover, etc.
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
Anyway I’ll stop “comparing” those two trios (as it feels icky and doesn’t make much sense anyway), but I agree it’s common to respond to hype by asking “why these particular artists and not others,” and the reasons may be good or bad or make sense or not, there are all sorts of factors involved.
― hypnic jerk (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
yeah not really apples to apples
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:06 (one year ago) link
I am once again calling for the Fiona Apple/Oranssi Pazuzu supergroup
― imago, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:18 (one year ago) link
sadly feel like Apple & Oranges is likelier to be her, Blood Orange and Rex Orange County
― imago, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:21 (one year ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Oranges?wprov=sfla1
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 04:32 (one year ago) link
I thought indie rock writ large was regressive music for lame dweebs when it was a misogynist boys club, and just because women play it now doesn't mean that it somehow transcends being regressive music for lame dweebs
― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
got 'em
― alpine static, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
Ouch. Lame Dweebs is the name of my Bright Eyes tribute band.
― she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
funny, my Puny Tyrant tribute band is called Dame Lweebs
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link
this made me lol, i'm sorryhttps://metal-digest.com/2022/10/26/harakiri-for-the-sky-harakiri-for-the-sky-mmxxii/
― StanM, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 10:56 (one year ago) link
"The meritorious wonders that are portrayed upon this re-recording can be viewed from the angle wherein a soul wrestles not with the currents of a river, for you should be within its flow rather than trying to control the inevitable.". And then:"But the question still remains unanswered…besides a length of 10 years, what separates the re-recorded version from the original?"I love it when you're not sure if the writer understands his own writing
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 12:24 (one year ago) link
I suppose it's all a tangential reference to Heraclitus
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link
Isn't everything, really?
― when you wish upon a tsar (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link
no one posts in the same thread twice
― mark s, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link
Coldplay just want their music to be heard in the correct context
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
Clearly AI generated & full of wrong mistakes & wrong takes: https://singersroom.com/w5/best-pavement-songs-of-all-time/
― BrianB, Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link
I like that they never tire in pointing out that these Pavement songs are by the band Pavement
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link
a wrong take AND a mistake
― mark s, Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link
Very important to start from first principles
― jmm, Thursday, 4 May 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link
That Edw@rd Toml1n is a very prolific writer
― symsymsym, Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link
Google proofing from an AI? I’d welcome his coming here to tell us more about 80s band the Smashing Pumpkins.
― Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 May 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
music criticism is the laziest, most formulaic, and least insightful form of writing, so it makes sense that they would replace music writers with AI
― budo jeru, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
omg google for Tomlin and find symsymsym
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
xpost helluva board to make that claim on :)
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
it's interesting that the positive/descriptive/bland house style of AI is at this point not just immediately recognisable but acutely annoying. have to wonder if there will be a reaction against this in regular non-AI writing, maybe this time next year everyone will be writing criticism like hunter s thompson. again.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link
CaAL, that will just inspire coders to develop a Gonzo module.
"I was wacked-out on peyote and household bleach when I listened to the latest Rihanna album. I took a loaded .45 and a bottle of Jose Cuervo and headed down I-80 while listening to it. Here are my impressions:"
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link
A Spike Jonze film about teaching an AI to be edgy
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link
AI having late night phone calls with a Lester Bangs hologram after losing virginity to an NFT
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link