I wonder if we’ll see bodycam footage of the arrest?
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 April 2023 11:55 (one year ago) link
Is there a way to find out what happened at yesterday's advisement hearing? Apparently that's when bond is set.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
Here is the Denver County Court case history, looks like bond was set for $500?
https://public.denvercountycourt.org/Case/CaseHistory?CaseNumber=23CR02253
― np (nphominoid), Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
Here's a GoFundMe for Neil's legal defence and mental health help: https://www.gofundme.com/f/suk3t-neil-hagerty-mental-health-legal-defense
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
Thx, just saw Jennifer tweet that (Gerald Cosloy, First donation).$500 bond seems reassuringly low.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 22 April 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
Looking through the names of folks donating, hard not to fantasize about what a kickass benefit EP they could record if they somehow got together in a studio.
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 22 April 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
Bummer revive, I know, but I've listened to more Royal Trux in the last couple days than I have in decades. Gotta come up w/ a POX...
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Sunday, 23 April 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link
really glad people are focusing on the legal defense/mental health support fundraising ... my instinct is that the bail was set so low because the charges are mostly bullshit, but we can save the ACAB discussion for another thread
― sarahell, Sunday, 23 April 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
couple of good things if y'all haven't seen them yet — three lobed is donating all proceeds from the (great) hagerty-toth band record to the gofundme: http://threelobed.com/tlr/tlr115.html
same goes for this killer hagerty / ryley walker / ryan jewell collab: https://ryleywalker.bandcamp.com/album/fried-in-denver
― tylerw, Monday, 24 April 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link
and yeah, that $500 bail got my hopes up that maybe it won't be quite as bad for NMH as those charges looked (though I really don't know much about how all this works)
― tylerw, Monday, 24 April 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link
thanks for sharing these Tyler, I've just picked up a copy of the Hagerty-Toth Band record, which I hadn't heard about, sounds like it should be great!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 24 April 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
That one is great, I’ve never heard of the other thing, gonna pick it up now…
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Monday, 24 April 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
Auction for Hagerty-Toth Band test pressing to raise funds for NH's GoFundMe:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166050120840
― High School Hospital, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link
Here’s a question for those in the know: is there much out there (ie formally released, not bootleg) of live Neil solo stuff from any era?
If not, putting out the best of that might be a good way to raise money for him if a label could swing it.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link
NMH is one of those totemic indie figures who I’ve just not gotten ‘round to in a meaningful way (including Pussy Galore and Royal Trux, and it’s embarrassing to admit that it’s only starting to happen now.
BUT:
That self-titled album of his from 2003 is the one I own and know inside and out. Brilliant and confounding, with tunes that pop up on the mental jukebox at random moments.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link
Raymond: you might be interested in this--
https://www.discogs.com/master/594330-Neil-Michael-Hagerty-The-Howling-Hex-The-Hildreth-Tapes
― High School Hospital, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 11:35 (one year ago) link
Sorry, this is the record I meant
https://www.discogs.com/master/316960-Neil-Michael-Hagerty-The-Howling-Hex-The-Howling-Hex
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link
Thanks HSH, will look into it!
I'm seeing a "campaign not found" msg re NMH from gofundme. Uh oh. I was wondering if this might happen given that gofundme "prohibits raising money for the legal defense of an alleged violent crime." I don't know if that's what is happening here — I hope not.
― jaywbabcock, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link
xxp Raymond that is the best one imho
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
xp Oh shit
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link
It was up to over $34K last night
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link
JH says on her FB post linking to the gofundme campaign: "The LINK is being updated..... PLEASE CHECK BACK LATER"
― jaywbabcock, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 22:58 (one year ago) link
oh phew... fingers crossed it's all good
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
speaking to the concerns abt the charges, as one of the seemingly few ppl itt who has dealt with cops/system in adversarial circumstances as an activist, it is v common for prosecutors to overcharge so that defendants plea out rather than go to trial, this is a cheat tactic to make their conviction rates look good, everybody does it
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
also $35K is very encouraging
JH says on FB: "Terri (Neil's wife) has to change some of the language.... The lawyers are looking it over and should have updated link sooner than later 🙂 Thanks to Everybody xxx"
― jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
good news!
another way to help out: https://www.ebay.com/itm/166050120840
― tylerw, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 15:06 (one year ago) link
That one jumped up out of my price range (a good thing!) but I did order a regular copy from Three Lobed to help out a little bit.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 15:08 (one year ago) link
― jaywbabcock, Wednesday, April 26, 2023 8:04 AM (one hour ago
what a relief!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
I attended Neil Hagerty's court hearing in Denver this morning. Not much info, but a few updates:- Neil was not present, but his wife+lawyers were- His attorneys say he is still not in a state to be advised/testify- Neil is still in custody- Preliminary trial is set for 5/8— Aaron Dooley (@Aye_Doolz) April 27, 2023
― tylerw, Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
Oh man, that's hard to hear
― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, 27 April 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
:(
welp, this sucks on the NMH front. pic.twitter.com/DSSqg5c3tB— QueenCityJamz (@QueenCityJamz) May 4, 2023
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
Damn, that sucks. Hoping they get a new one up soon that focuses on the mental health help, guessing this is a result of the issue with not being able to raise funds for legal defense of a "violent" crime.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
Shit yeah just saw that in my inbox as well
― omar little, Thursday, 4 May 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
New donation link: https://www.givesendgo.com/NeilHagertyAdditionally, Jennifer Herrema; Neil’s Royal Trux partner and family friend, has donated a free download of an audio track that combines 4 years of singular audio tracks Neil has posted to his Patreon subscribers. The combined tracks highlight Neil’s creativity while illuminating his disconnected mental state.
― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
(I haven’t seen my GoFundMe donation refunded yet…)
― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
FYI, I reached out to GoFundMe to ask about it; somewhat strangely, the chat agent asked me to confirm I wanted to refund my donation ("Keep in mind that if we issue a refund, this can not be reversed"). I said yes (so I can donate to the new fund)... not sure why some are being automatically refunded and not others.
― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
some went through before it got pulled, apparently
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link
from jennifer herrema on fbook
We want to thank everyone who donated to the GoFundMe for Neil. Unfortunately, the campaign has been removed by GoFundMe due to their term of service that prohibits raising funds for legal defense of certain ALLEGED crimes. The funds that were not transferred prior to the campaign being canceled will be reimbursed to those individuals. I want to thank everyone who donated and if you received a refund I want to apologize for the inconvenience. We are starting a new campaign with GiveSendGo to continue to raise money for Neil’s care. This is an extremely complicated case and raises many questions that will be addressed by the lawyers once Neil is safely at the hospital. We will keep you posted as much as we can but please understand that we are not at liberty to speak openly about the case. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR SUPPORTING & BELIEVING IN NEILLove & Kindness - T & JJ
― tylerw, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
(so i guess if you didn't get a refund, your money made it to Neil and his wife)
Oh nuts... well ok, I'll make up for it with the new fund.
― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
Update & Message from Neil
Hello to all of you and I thank you for supporting us in this difficult time. I can't comment on the situation itself now, except to say: I have been kept strong by this uncommon outpouring of charity and concern. I don't know how long it will take to see this through but I do hope to be able to thank all of you individually & personally some day.
Thanks-- from my heart-- and please keep those kind and good thoughts headed our way.In gratitude, Neil
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 30 June 2023 05:37 (eleven months ago) link
FYI, a substantial update was posted today. Sounds like Neil is doing well, and is hopeful that his legal situation will be resolved positively next year.
― In my Ram’s Horn era (morrisp), Saturday, 30 December 2023 19:21 (five months ago) link
Does seem like things are going in a (relatively) positive direction — hope it continues.
― tylerw, Saturday, 30 December 2023 20:15 (five months ago) link
New label for an “extensive reissue series” (beginning w/Twin Infinitives)
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Thursday, 8 February 2024 15:52 (four months ago) link
Huh. Fingers crossed, but wasn't Fat Possum allegedly going to do the same reissue campaign back in 2018? Or was that deal just for digital/streaming of the back catalog?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:02 (four months ago) link
Dud! But, also, get well soon!
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:13 (four months ago) link
xp Yeah, maybe that was just for streaming? In true Trux fashion, it all seems a little scattered (and not sure what they gained by "leaving" Drag City)...
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Thursday, 8 February 2024 16:42 (four months ago) link
I guess maybe DC wasn't streaming yet when they left