OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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haha, that's good inspiration, cheers! and its a reminder that i could ask my pal raub roy to write something. and you too! we shall see. sometimes i blab a lot and nothing happens. but sometimes things happen too! you never know. i definitely need a summer hobby. i'm going a little stir crazy, creatively. and if those texas winds start hitting massachusetts, i'll be inside for awhile. its been getting pretty brutal here in summer. we get some unlivable weeks.

scott seward, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

On the topic of lists, there's this week's "70 Best Alt-Country Albums" over at Paste:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/alt-country/the-50-best-alt-country-albums-of-all-time

Apparently it's repackaged from 2016, but they managed to leave in a sentence about how, if Justin Townes Earle can "manage his demons," he just might be one of the all-time greats.

jon_oh, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:46 (eleven months ago) link

is there a music site even worth looking at in 2023? i can't remember the last time i looked at music reviews online. its been years. i figured they would just make me sad. seems like a bygone era. i'm not going on tiktok...

(there must be brainy cool young writers out there somewhere. does anyone do cool zines anymore?)


Let me make a plug for a Marylander

http://pointofdeparture.org

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 23 June 2023 18:53 (eleven months ago) link

i've heard three of those! ingenue is alt-country? in what world? ingenue is tied with meantime for my fave album of 1992. i wore that knitters album OUT in high school. and obviously that mekons record is top ten of 1985 material. the rest i don't listen to. maybe by accident.

x-post

scott seward, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:56 (eleven months ago) link

i like to think that i listen to almost everything but i guess i've met my match with alt-country. i picked up about 50 CDrs of hillbilly and rockabilly and country swing comps and i've been playing them for weeks at the store. someone burned a ton of bear family and euro-reissue label discs of that stuff and they sound great. and they made photocopied inserts of the covers which i always appreciate.

scott seward, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

There are definitely still zines and zine shops.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 23 June 2023 21:53 (eleven months ago) link

it's so weird because listen I've worked in the content mines and do have sympathy for everyone who's gotta pull up their pants and, say, shit out Taylor Swift article to do numbers when the tour is going on but like who asked for this?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

please don't pull _up_ your pants to shit

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:02 (eleven months ago) link

writers shit through their fingers

ivy (BradNelson), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:04 (eleven months ago) link

have sympathy for everyone who's gotta pull up their pants and, say, shit out Taylor Swift article

generally yeah I would have sympathy for anyone who pulls up their pants to shit

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:05 (eleven months ago) link

writers shit through their fingers

― ivy (BradNelson)

fine but why you gotta wear pants to do it

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:09 (eleven months ago) link

first rule of content mine club is shit your pants

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 June 2023 22:15 (eleven months ago) link

I’ve said this many times but Neil McCormick is the *worst* music writer in the British media by a cunt-ry mile. For a start, every one of the Arctic Monkeys is a millennial. pic.twitter.com/ObVQ7pCwtE

— Mic Wright (@brokenbottleboy) June 24, 2023

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 June 2023 08:57 (eleven months ago) link

I'd say it isn't inaccurate to state that Gen X sometimes adopts bands from younger generations, especially ones that play real music with real instruments. Wet Leg are the newest Gen X house band, for example

imago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:05 (eleven months ago) link

or older, even.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:09 (eleven months ago) link

I have never used "utter" or "utterly" in any piece of published or unpublished writing.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:43 (eleven months ago) link

I do teach my students to not use absolutes if they can avoid it, true

imago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:58 (eleven months ago) link

markedly compelling Glastonbury performance

imago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 09:59 (eleven months ago) link

omg Kate I stole your joke and didn’t even realise, maximum apologies

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 24 June 2023 10:19 (eleven months ago) link

Neil McCormick, however, reinforced past complaints about the album, ranking it as the band's worst album in a 2014 retrospective on the band in The Daily Telegraph: "Muddy production, perky synths, jaunty pop rhythms and an orchestral ballad make these songs barely recognisable as the heaviest band in history."[21]

Perhaps muddy production aside (and I disagree), McCormick's 1/5 of In Through the Out Door reads closer to a 5/5 to me :)

This is the first thing that I always think of when he's mentioned. Not even U2.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 24 June 2023 10:24 (eleven months ago) link

"house band for a generation" is a very bad notion in general which will tend to lead to false and badly written statements.

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 June 2023 12:13 (eleven months ago) link

fine but why you gotta wear pants to do it

My future's so bright I gotta wear pants

pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 24 June 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link

omg Kate I stole your joke and didn’t even realise, maximum apologies

― assert (matttkkkk)

just don't use it in your standup set and we're cool

(haha nah you didn't "steal" it you came up with it independently, different thing)

I'd say it isn't inaccurate to state that Gen X sometimes adopts bands from younger generations, especially ones that play real music with real instruments. Wet Leg are the newest Gen X house band, for example

― imago

there is no "generation x", the entire thing about my supposed "generation" is that we don't matter and nobody cares. even the name ultimately derives from a 1964 book about... fucking boomers. to me, my generation are boomers lite. nowadays everybody younger than gen x just calls us boomers and to be _offended_ by that would be the most boomer thing ever. i'm a boomer? ok. fine. whatever.

yeah most of the new music i listen to is from "younger generations", i haven't _adopted_ it, it's just music i find good and relatable. most of the best bands of "my generation" are broken up, dead, or boring. i'm not going to be sitting in a retirement home listening to whatever the fuck the latest tortoise album is, you know?

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:06 (eleven months ago) link

*John McEntire weeps silently somewhere in Chicago*

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

judging by his girlfriend mcentire is very in touch with millennials

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:22 (eleven months ago) link

I'd say it isn't inaccurate to state that Gen X sometimes adopts bands from younger generations, especially ones that play real music with real instruments. Wet Leg are the newest Gen X house band, for example
― imago


not to be all the internet is real life, the amount of real world gen x people who even know who the fuck wet leg is is like 0.0000001 percent

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

maybe in the US!

imago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:32 (eleven months ago) link

In the US it’s Greta Van Fleet

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link

In the US it’s Greta Van Fleet

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link

I’ll say it again

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link

People keep changing the parameters of what Gen X is even … I have never been called or considered a boomer … “we” were basically the population trough kids that were born to be an insignificant demographic minority

sarahell, Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah GenXers were born in a baby bust, not a boom. Schools were closing and consolidating when I was a kid because of low enrollment. We’re the kids OF the boomers.

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 24 June 2023 18:57 (eleven months ago) link

They (we) were even called “Baby Busters” before the Coupland book provided the name that stuck.

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link

soon all generations will agree that Blue Oyster Cult was the only good rock band and peace will reign for a thousand years

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:08 (eleven months ago) link

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men...

BrianB, Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:15 (eleven months ago) link

Schools were closing and consolidating when I was a kid because of low enrollment.

yep. also budgets were being cut for public education and other social programs that benefited children (aka fuck you Reagan) ... and instead we had D.A.R.E. and Just Say No to Drugs and the Satanic Panic

sarahell, Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:31 (eleven months ago) link

to be fair, also fuck Nixon

sarahell, Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link

and this is why musical touchstones of this "generation" were Danzig-era Misfits and Iron Maiden lol

sarahell, Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:33 (eleven months ago) link

king wizard gizzard just sold out the hollywood bowl buncha wine drinking gen x-ers filled the place

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:11 (eleven months ago) link

there's definitely an annoying jam band adjacent fan base developing with them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:21 (eleven months ago) link

Also there's a weird old millennial hipster F1 racing thing that I don't like the vibe of

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:22 (eleven months ago) link

king gizz are core zoomer rock band too is the thing. i'm not into them but who knows, this could change

imago, Saturday, 24 June 2023 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

i used to feel like "gen x" meant anyone in the states who grew up with mass market shit like scooby doo and star wars but now "gen x" just makes me thing "white pavement fan". or even "white people who remember public enemy fondly". maybe it was always like that. the slacker thing. and marketers obviously go where the money is and try to appeal to white millennial/x/boomers in ways that appeal to them. ancient goth rock revival tours. limited edition scooby doo swatches. all that. but maybe i should ask people of color of a certain age if they feel like the term "gen x" or "millennial" speaks to them at all. or if it ever did. I realize its just a fake name that stuck... i feel like even "boomer" meant something different at first. howdy doody. hydrox cookies. still a white thing kinda but broader. and tied in with social justice and Vietnam and blah blah. now i just think of some annoying blowhard talking about seeing Grand Funk once in Springfield, Mass. But that's just an occupational hazard for me. all of this makes me wish i would remember to go to one of those awesome freestyle oldies shows at foxwoods. its right up the road! less than two hours and i could be serenaded by the cover girls and shannon! (i have no interest in most reunion/oldies/anniversary shows. i don't know why. they make me a little sad. i didn't even go see souls of mischief last week TWO DOORS from my store. i have a hard gen x heart. but i will be freestyle until i die.)

scott seward, Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:16 (eleven months ago) link

i used to feel like "gen x" meant anyone in the states who grew up with mass market shit like scooby doo and star wars but now "gen x" just makes me thing "white pavement fan". or even "white people who remember public enemy fondly".

I totally get this, but as a guy who had his head blown open by Einstürzende Neubauten, Sonic Youth, Big Black, Pussy Galore, Ice-T, Boogie Down Productions, Just-Ice and Eric B. & Rakim all at the same time in high school (and saw Public Enemy, Stetsasonic, EPMD and Big Daddy Kane in 1988) it hurts my heart. Like, my interest in the output of Matador Records ends with the first Unsane record, you know?

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:24 (eleven months ago) link

xp began as a reflection, grew into a credo

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link

i totally fit the hipster gen x stereotypes. it doesn't bother me. i just say whatevernevermind. i never read infinite jest though. or even the generation x book. i read less than zero though.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:40 (eleven months ago) link

I’m going to Freestyle Festival 2023 in a few weeks.

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:44 (eleven months ago) link

Have a rockin' time!

scott seward, Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:52 (eleven months ago) link

We are the sandwich generation. The shit sandwich generation.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 24 June 2023 22:56 (eleven months ago) link

Culturally, I find it more useful to split the generations... I recently learned the term Generation Jones, which is the tail end of Boomers... i.e., the cohort of folks like Morrissey and Micheal Stipe, who seem to have more in common with the oldest X'ers than they do, say, my dad. And long before the term "Xennial" existed, I felt like I was part of a "post-X" cohort, on the younger side of X'ers. I def feel like I have more in common with folks 10 years younger than me than ppl 10 years older.

Obv it's all BS to a certain degree; but if you're talking about very rough groupings of shared cultural experiences, these "micro-generations" seem to capture it better than the big categories spanning 15 or even 20 years.

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Sunday, 25 June 2023 01:24 (eleven months ago) link

Obv it's all BS

mookieproof, Sunday, 25 June 2023 01:26 (eleven months ago) link


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