I have Bob Mosley's solo record from '72 on vinyl (often used to be in delete bins). Don't remember a thing about it.
― clemenza, Friday, 14 July 2023 14:03 (eleven months ago) link
Matthew Katz, notoriously one of the most reprehensible and grossly dishonest managers in rock history, finally died at the age of 93 back on September 30th after spending much of his adult life destroying this band, taking every cent they earned and nearly litigating their back catalogue out of existence save for the shitty reissues he’d try to put out and the temporary workarounds Bob Irwin and Sony have come up with over the years (see “Vintage: The Very Best of Moby Grape.”
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 December 2023 05:47 (six months ago) link
Ugh.
― Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 December 2023 06:08 (six months ago) link
Seem to recall somebody…the Airplane, maybe?… advised them to stay away from him early on.
― Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 December 2023 06:09 (six months ago) link
All the sordid details can be found here:
https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-of-moby-grape-chaos-and-courtrooms-acid-and-white-witches
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 December 2023 06:15 (six months ago) link
Thanks. Once it’s in my head might just as well go back and (re)read all the gory details.
― Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 December 2023 06:33 (six months ago) link
Can’t remember if I mentioned Susan Schmidt Hornung’s recent piece about “Omaha” upthread.
― Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 December 2023 06:50 (six months ago) link
Not surprised this wasn't reported, who was going to mourn this horrible prick?
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 07:26 (six months ago) link
I don’t…but it could make their catalog, particularly their debut, available in complete and proper form again. (You can’t even stream the debut in its entirety on Apple Music.)
Would love it if Sundazed brought back their reissues - they were immediately pulled due to Katz’s litigation though pre-orders and other copies got out. That was the last attempt to properly release them in physical form.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 December 2023 07:40 (six months ago) link
I could have sworn we had discussed him already dying recently but it guess was just lots of posts on the surprised at still alive thread.
― Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:38 (six months ago) link
Yes, I think he was mentioned fairly recently, possibly musing on why horrors like him and Kissinger are still alive... oh hold on...
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:41 (six months ago) link
xpost yeah, I got the debut CD just ahead of HMV having to pull them out of stores.
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 December 2023 13:10 (six months ago) link
I have a 90s vinyl reissue of the debut bought in FOPP in the west end of Glasgow before they expanded UK wide. Man, that was a great shop.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 7 December 2023 14:20 (six months ago) link
Vintage was great, but suffers a bit (particularly in regards to the debut) from including all the studio chat and false starts on the individual songs themselves instead of indexing them separately or putting them in the between track countdowns.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 December 2023 14:38 (six months ago) link
Yes, not sure I agree with some of the choices on which songs to include (or exclude) either.
― Free Ass Ange (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2023 14:44 (six months ago) link
including all the studio chat and false starts
True, although I wonder if this was part of a subterfuge to create new masters that weren't under Katz's ownership.
which songs to include (or exclude)
I haven't heard any other songs from the records proper, I'd like to know your choices. I could live without some of the Bob Mosley stuff that made it on Vintage
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 December 2023 15:27 (six months ago) link
Finally listened to 20 Granite Creek, and first impression yow what a Saturday night! 1971, all five singing, playing, writing, rowdy and sharp and even more variety than primo The Band, without getting too fancy about it. Something barroom and outdoors about it, Cali all thee way--title and cover art provide that '71 roots touch, music not too much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA4FtjnmoV4
― dow, Sunday, 14 January 2024 00:34 (five months ago) link
i think i like learning about, and talking about, this band more than i actually like listening to them.
even though i do really enjoy listening to them sometimes.
― budo jeru, Sunday, 14 January 2024 01:21 (five months ago) link
I go through a couple days a year listening to those San Francisco bands. I will put together a play list loading up an album or two from a few bands then sort them around and give them a listen.
If you go from short songs to long songs, the Moby Grape stuff gets played and done pretty quick.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:55 (five months ago) link
I got the first one on LP. The record has been played to death, but it is cool to look at the cover.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:57 (five months ago) link
Mind you the LP was toasted long before I ever got it. Got a feeling a few joints were rolled off it in its heyday.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:58 (five months ago) link
And I have had the LP over 30 years now…
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 14 January 2024 05:59 (five months ago) link