Autechre: Classic or Dud?

i was not driving at anything rigorous! except that tv and radio static isn't really "noise" in the sense of "purely random noise" (that's more like the real atmospheric hum or a mains hum) it's actually more like the type of "noise" you might get looking at a van gogh through a really radically wrong set of prescription lenses plus a funhouse mirror too

in other words, it's not empty noise, it's actually chock full of meaningful information, you're just not processing it right (because you're between spots on the dial)

i am just sketching a rough analogy to "intense listening of electronic music", we often make a lot of assumptions about whether there's "meaningful information" there, but it's often assumptions and we're generally not in the right spot to hear that information (ie we're hearing a snapshot of the output, not looking at the actual process) ... i would argue we get entirely too much information about music these days but that's partly just consumerism / capitalism rounding out the process of trying to sell us things by teasing us with tantalizing facts about our prospective purchase

There are more beats on SIGN than I remembered! In my memory it was almost entirely drum-less and ambient.

I think it's odd, with all of the discussion of late-period Ae on ILX, that there (seems to be) little to 0 talk of the AE_LIVE material. The 2015 sets were a revelation (imo), especially in person.

It could be that I'm simply overlooking parts of threads where it is written about, but most of the things I read are about the NTS stuff, or the proper album releases. Of course, the 2022 material was just barely released. It just seems odd because I'd been so floored by the 2015 live sets, and the subsequent, official release of them. I apologize for the drive-by whinging, or 'wtf, people!' sentiment. Just sayin', is all

There's 28 hours of it!

*seems odd, or makes me feel nuts (overreacting and or out of touch) for feeling so thrilled by the mid '10s live sets

There's 28 hours of it!

― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten)

You’re right - it is weird, when it came out it was kind of like a clerical error had been corrected and I forgot to engage with the music. I listen quite often but they’re not something I’ve thought about (except for the section I always skip if it’s in the particular set).

the 2015 sets are incredible. so much variety and such immediate impact. the 16/18 or 22 ones might benefit from close listening but the 2015 ones are just bangers. the later sets (of the 2015 ones) are probably better, they squeeze even more elements in.

I think there was just a metric ton of live records, many of them coming at once. An album (or even NTS) is a slightly more manageable meal for most of us.

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I mean I don't just listen to an album once, especially not an Autechre album where you often need 5-6 listens to know what the hell is going on. the live sets are cool because you can just put on a different one each time, because they're similar enough that you start to recognize the different bits but different enough to make it interesting. no doubt Rob and Sean have had the thought of making albums where the algos actually do are a little different each time you hear it, to me the NTS Sessions hinted at that sort of thing, but obviously there are no widely adopted protocols to make that possible. having 7 versions of the same live set is kind of the same idea though

I would love for them to put out an "album" where each "song" is actually a generative algorithm that spits out a track with slight variances each time; with or without potential parameter inputs. Seems on brand for them. Key snag here would be the legal ramifications of such a release, and how might they retain IP/copyright ownership over the generated track and how they'd be able to tell which ones in the wild were "theirs".

yeah people talked about that when the random minidisc came out, and someone said unclear IP rights was exactly what stopped Autechre from doing it. reliability of that statement unknown obv

Listening to London set B from the latest drop and it's really gorgeous. Love how rounded this set sounds, the different elements aren't jaggedly cutting into each other, it all has a lush organic and silky flow/mix to it. Making me even more pissed I am missing the Australia shows by literally a week. Hope they hit up North America soon. Haven't seen them since 2014

> I would love for them to put out an "album" where each "song" is actually a generative algorithm that spits out a track with slight variances each time; with or without potential parameter inputs.

sounds a lot like what eno did with his koan thing...

https://intermorphic.com/archive/sseyo/koan/generativemusic1/

I tried London A and Bergen, wasn't really into either, but London B still seems fantastic to me.

2015 live fans - where should I start?

nagano - though I realise now I've never actually listened to any of the US ones, rectifying now.

nagano grafenhainichen - this has the most going on towards the end, of the first seven anyway. according to a lol spreadsheet i made at the time.

> have only downloaded the mp3s, they're 140-190mb each.
...
> 700mb for all mp3s,

i think one of these things was true but even 140 x 6 is not 700 (1.1GB it quoted me)

but took no time at all using work's under-utilised wifi!

use ansi-standard dates, you dweebs

limited edition print on sale, how much of a sucker fan am i? https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live

my 2016/2018 download only came with one image but i see the individual files there each have their own

fucking in the fucking venue row fucking 3 rn

\m/

Magical set from Actress in support

fucking in the fucking venue row fucking 3 rn

― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:40 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

3? how extravagant

I asked to switch seats because of a bass rattle and am now sitting above the stage

Excessive bass can be an issue. Almost ruined my Helsinki '22 gig, as the concert hall made primarily for acoustic classical music performances was definitely not suited for booming bass.

The set was radically, transcendently new. Grimy, oily beats, brutal sonics, overwhelming, huge rushes, complete 180 from the abstraction of the last decade. Positively evil, pummelling, wow.

thanks to a kind person

https://we.tl/t-nptWp9F7Ex

Thanks, I will make this my first time listening to live AE!

complete 180 from the abstraction of the last decade

I don't believe you but I'm happy you had such a good time!

(downloading now)

you weren't lying

heh
I think I made an immortalised WOO around the 22 minute mark

Loving the emphasis on hip hop beats on the Sydney set. Damn. Will be in Sydney next week so maybe I can hear some faint echoes of the show reverberating off random buildings in the CBD or something while I'm there.

Whoever posted that 2023 set, thank you, finally listened to it today and it is bleakly gorgeous

There is a lossless version on archive.org now by the way

https://archive.org/details/Autechre2023-08-27

I don't know if anyone ever mentioned these (I was surprised to find them) - here's two shows from 94 & 95 :

https://www.mixcloud.com/oscillate_sound_system/autechre-live-oscillate-1494/

https://www.mixcloud.com/oscillate_sound_system/autechre-oscillate-21295/

noice

The 95 set is superb.

it really is

https://nialler9.com/autechre-conversation-about-music-art-funk-and-emotion-interview/

what i'm getting from that is that they only really like people called Mark.

Autechre actually popped up in the novel i'm reading at the moment, Ian Rankin's 'A Question Of Blood' (2003):

'You're going to tell me you've never smoked or had a drink?'

But of course he wasn't going to say that. Doctors had higher stress levels than cops. One thing she had done - her own initiative - was trying to get into ambient music. Lemon Jelly, Oldsolar, Boards of Canada. Some hadn't worked - Aphex Twin and Autechre; not enough meat on their bones.

I enjoyed that interview, some interesting links/tracks to check out later.

lmao

Sean: Yeah, I mean, Rae was written in a really emotional state as well. I remember exactly what I was doing, where I was and everything when I did that

Droid: It’s funereal, it’s just absolutely stunning.

Sean: Yeah, it was a hangover (laughs) It wasn’t even real sadness, I wasn’t even going through anything. I was just, I was just feeling really fragile that day.

I love these guys so much

OMG "Rae" confirmed Sean solo track??