Crying watching Tay like the end of Cinema Paradiso
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 1 September 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
In Her Glory
is this thing going to be three hours long, like the entire set?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 1 September 2023 03:20 (one year ago) link
Guess we’ll find out!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link
Three and a half hours, apparently.
― erasingclouds, Friday, 1 September 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link
https://deadline.com/2023/09/taylor-swift-eras-tour-movie-ticket-presales-box-office-1235533199/
― Stoned Wheat Thing (morrisp), Friday, 1 September 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
I am coming around on Midnights, especially from “Bejeweled” on.
― Indexed, Saturday, 2 September 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link
It's like Taylor Swift was watching this scene in "To Live and Die in L.A." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q6VsR_4PuQAnd said to herself, hmm, I know a faster way.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 September 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link
Cineplex's website says 2 hours 45 mins
anyway I'm curious about the Venn diagram of people who are going to this and people who regularly whine when a movie is over 2 hrs long
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 2 September 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
hi i’m the problem its me i am that venn diagram
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 September 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
Pretty long concertDoes she have monologues about not getting drafted to Vietnam?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 2 September 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
Has this been shared?https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-weekend-essay/listening-to-taylor-swift-in-prison
― Indexed, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
Yes
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
in the worst music writing thread
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
Taylor Swift performing in prison, is there nothing she won't steal from Johnny Cash
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
Boo - I like it! It's sweet and affecting. How often does a personal essay about music challenge assumptions as much as this?
― Indexed, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
idk why it was posted in that thread, it's a good piece
― ivy., Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
Does she have monologues about not getting drafted to Vietnam?
"I used to go out at night and drive. It didn't matter where, I would just drive all night, as long as I could keep my eyes open, even until the gaslight went on. But even then, I would sometimes just keep driving, further and further, as far as I could get from my worries, the childish things that bothered me, the darker, more grown-up things that scared me, kept me up at night. And no matter what time I came home, I'd find my dad sitting there in the kitchen, alone, in the dark, smoking a cigarette. Usually he wouldn't say a word, he would just stare at me, his face tired, the cigarette dangling between his calloused fingers, thick from the long hours he put in as a stockbroker. My eyes would meet his and, without a word, I would just turn around and head back out to the car and drive and drive some more, drive all night, until the sun came up, or the car just stopped. I can still remember my dad's eyes staring back in the dark. When I was younger, I used to think they were filled with anger, or sadness. Now that I'm older, I know they were filled with love.
This is for you, dad. It's called 'Getaway Car.'"
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
― Indexed, Thursday, September 7, 2023 1:42 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
to be honest I seem to be the only one on earth who found the whole thing a bit distasteful and that’s probably for me to sit with
― k3vin k., Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link
what was it that you found distasteful, out of curiosity? not asking out of judgment, but having read it myself, just curious to compare notes
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link
I also found it a bit distasteful
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link
ok if this is a safe space…
the guy killed someone and lied about it for years. I looked up some of his other writing and it’s…not really professional level. I’m glad hes going to be up for parole, 20 years is enough…but I’m not sure that if I were editing the new yorker I’d be using my limited resources editing college-level essays for a guy who’s trying to build his CV for a parole hearing
― k3vin k., Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
Yeah that pretty much nails it for me. The writing is fine but not really at the level I associate with The New Yorker (not that I read it regularly), and it felt a little weird reading it without knowing anything about the guy's particular case (I didn't look it up). I didn't think it shed much light on why he has a particular connection to Swift's music – beyond a few rote-seeming lyric references and clichés. Its most interesting through-line (and all I really took away from it) was the logistics of owning/listening to music in prison.
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Thursday, 7 September 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link
yeah I mean it’s benefited from some good editing for sure
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link
where'd you find info on the dude's case? xpost
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link
xp The ghost of Harold Ross nixed a reference to Antonoff by jotting "Who he?" in the margin (that's a gag for all you Eustace Tilley charm-bracelet wearers).
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, September 7, 2023 8:22 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
google lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
I mean look like any good left wing dude I’m all for leniency from the legal system. the court of public opinion imo reserves the right to judge
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:31 (one year ago) link
Taylor Swift's power reaches even those who are imprisoned -- especially those who have some romantic woes going on in their lives.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link
Google doesn’t help much with a name like his
yeah you gotta search the state and year etc iirc
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link
fwiw the NYer publishes a lot of stuff online that they probably wouldn't consider for print, this essay included
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link
yeah I mean again…it’s pretty sophomoric stuff imo, it’s not gramsci or letter from a birmingham mail or anything. though I do agree the detailing of the mechanics of finding records in prison was interesting
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link
Yeah something come up for California in 2007 but the killer was 22, so he would not be 53 now
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
https://casetext.com/case/people-v-garcia-1641
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link
I guess it’s tough to say if that’s him idk, murderer cum mediocre journalist writes essay for the new yorker either way
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link
Yeah that’s who I mean. He would be around 40 now.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link
IIRC, he doesn’t even mention any albums btw 1989 and Lover…
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:47 (one year ago) link
(Oh sorry that’s just one. I mean he mentions 1989, Lover, and then Midnights. What’d he think of FolkMore?)
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
i mean who cares, it is not even music writing really. i’m sure he was tapped into the pandemic era
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
so what is it exactly…?
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
Yeah, his fandom was the entire hook. Like when he mentioned arguing with another Swiftie about her best albums… like, tell me more. Those are the details I wanted; something to make it feel concrete from a “fan” perspective.
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
xxxxpost I think this is his actual case: https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/shots-fired-call-leads-officers-to-dead-body/
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link
idk i think a guy in prison detailing the specific ways he obtained and engaged with the music he likes is not exactly "music writing" and it's probably way closer to something like idk the obscure genre of writing known as the "personal essay" (which, sure, can also be music writing)
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link
xp Yeah, that's consistent with his brief account of the crime in a 2019 piece: https://archive.ph/UZ96g
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link
Well it’s not a very interesting or illuminating personal essay (IMO), and almost perhaps seems to put the New Yorker (Online) reader in an uncomfortably condescending position of marveling that a person in prison has an inner life and can express it in a serviceably written but basic essay. Just IMO
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link
*blinks* ok
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
i think you’ve projected a whole attitude onto this essay that literally no one will ever approach it with bc you’re angry he didn’t mention folklore
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
willing to drop this entire convo tho. i learned the specifics of how difficult it is to obtain music in prison, and how much more precious this can make like the experience of fandom itself. never encountered an essay that offered me that info before. it’s not beautifully written but it didn’t need to be. i’m not googling this guy also sorry
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link