JUst found this was up on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNH51SmyoU
― Stevo, Monday, 4 September 2023 09:47 (nine months ago) link
I saw them at Brooklyn Steel last night. They had me when they opened with Elevate Me Later, possibly my favorite Pavement song. We also got a bunch of WZ favs (Black Out, Father to a Sister, Half a Canyon, Fight this Generation). A beautiful Here closed the first set.
I think what we're seeing with this one, too, is kinda like a high school reunion ... at 10 years, you're happy to see people but really not far enough away from graduation to think of it as a big, special deal and you've not aged enough to really have the perspective that life doesn't last forever, it's the people and relationships that matter, etc. Then at 20 years, you're starting to understand that more and so you start to appreciate seeing old friends, recounting the memories, etc.i think this is well said ...And hey, they sounded great, seemed to be having fun at the show I saw. Very good vibes.― tylerw, Friday, October 7, 2022 3:36 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink
i think this is well said ...
And hey, they sounded great, seemed to be having fun at the show I saw. Very good vibes.
― tylerw, Friday, October 7, 2022 3:36 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink
I endorse this view. It was the best show of theirs I've seen (2x in '99 and 2x in 2010). The band seemed into performing in a way they hadn't any of the other times I had seen them. Appreciative. Generous. (Maybe this was all in my head). All the young people being into it was really nice as well.
I mean the way they jammed out certain songs, they should just keep touring. Get a little of that Wilco jam-adjacent money. Hacky sack in the parking lot.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:47 (nine months ago) link
Ah man, that setlist looks amazing. "Half a Canyon" is the song I'd most like to see them do live.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 15 September 2023 17:44 (nine months ago) link
I’d like Malkmus to be able to return to his solo career, but if they did another round of touring in ‘24 I might have to catch them again
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:35 (nine months ago) link
stephen going the neil route with pavement as his crazy horse would be my vote
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:56 (nine months ago) link
^^^ yes
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:59 (nine months ago) link
really jealous I wasn't able to see them on this tour but absolutely loved them in 2010 so if I don't see them again I still have my "saw them one more time" feeling to get me past the pretty bad terror twilight show I saw in New York at the end of the 90s (indeed that show in some sense *was* the end of *my* 90s)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 15 September 2023 21:39 (nine months ago) link
I was at one of those (Irving Plaza) shows…
― my brain goes aahhhh (morrisp), Friday, 15 September 2023 22:08 (nine months ago) link
Seeing them in fall ‘22 was especially big for me because I missed the 2010 tour entirely
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 September 2023 22:11 (nine months ago) link
I caught last night's Brooklyn Steel show, and as I was standing in line, I was pretty amazed that everyone around me seemed to be in their early or mid-20's, and at least one person mentioned they were too young to make the first reunion in 2010. My first Pavement show was in 2010, and likewise, it seemed like I was surrounded by college kids or 20-somethings. It seemed to be a sign that their audience doesn't really age the way other acts have - for example, when I saw Beck's solo one-off in 2021 at Irving Plaza, I got the feeling most of the people there had been listening to him in the '90s.
And yes, it was a great show, and perfectly complemented that 2010 show I saw, which was kind of the perfect show for new fans if you could only see one show - a virtual "best of" setlist, and incredibly the few popular favorites that weren't played at that show were played last night. ("Here" was most welcome.)
― birdistheword, Friday, 15 September 2023 23:13 (nine months ago) link
opened with Elevate Me Later, possibly my favorite Pavement song. We also got a bunch of WZ favs (Black Out, Father to a Sister, Half a Canyon, Fight this Generation). A beautiful Here closed the first set.
jealous!
― k3vin k., Monday, 18 September 2023 01:47 (eight months ago) link
I know there’s probably no money to be made in it, but I’d love the band to cobble together some sort of composite commemorate live LP - maybe the best of the best style.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 September 2023 16:51 (eight months ago) link
Or pick two of the best shows and issue them as a double album (or whatever). Yes, I know most of these shows have surfaced as fan bootlegs, but surely Pavement were doing their own higher fidelity recordings here and there.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 September 2023 16:56 (eight months ago) link
would be cool! i think they should take a page from Sonic Youth and start digging into their live archives, put some good shows up on Bandcamp, etc. When I interviewed Spiral late last year he said they had a bunch of stuff lying around.
― tylerw, Monday, 18 September 2023 17:13 (eight months ago) link
Just saw this while looking up a Podcast Mike Stax mentioned on his own Ugly Things onehttps://open.spotify.com/episode/4AVvPthXIIL2SVshBdkZyl?si=b9c145731669491a
― Stevo, Thursday, 21 September 2023 09:34 (eight months ago) link
I caught them 5 or 6 times on the 2010 tour, and was pretty bored by the time I got to the last few (didn't help I worked 4 nights of shows at Brixton in a row so some obvious burnout on my part). But putting that aside the 2 shows I saw last year were far far better than any of the 2010 ones and I'm so glad I got to see them.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:24 (eight months ago) link
I went to a show at a tiny venue last night (The Kilowatt SF) and recalled it was the last place I'd seen Pavement prior to last year's reunion shows, maybe 100 people fit in there. So I had a 25 year gap between that show and the latest reunion.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 21 September 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link
35 years ago today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slay_Tracks:_1933%E2%80%931969
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:31 (five months ago) link
<3
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:37 (five months ago) link
Thanks Steve, I needed a reason to feel old today.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:38 (five months ago) link
35 years?!
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:38 (five months ago) link
it can run for president now
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 19:51 (five months ago) link
christ
― truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 20:01 (five months ago) link
steve. . . you're killing me
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 21:05 (five months ago) link
The Wedding Present's bass player bought a copy in New York, brought it back to Leeds and within a year the Weddoes recorded (with Steve Albini!) a cover of "Box Elder" as a b-side to "Brassneck". That's somewhat amazing in retrospect.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 January 2024 02:28 (four months ago) link
Pavement never got credited for that on 'Bizarro' either iirc
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:44 (four months ago) link
Covered by The Wedding Present was definitely something that popped up in every early mention of Pavement I saw in the music press.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:07 (four months ago) link
is it is good as their Steve Harley cover?
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:39 (four months ago) link
Definitely not.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:57 (four months ago) link
7” box set announced: https://store.matadorrecords.com/cautionary-tales-jukebox-classiques
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:02 (three months ago) link
I keep saying this, but if they want my money they’ll release select live shows as physical media
Some of other things they’ve done (like this) kinda baffle me
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:34 (three months ago) link
standalone repro of og swirl grey vinyl Demolition Plot w/ racecar tire stamp on inner sleeve or gtfo
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:53 (three months ago) link
xpost i dunno, i think things like this and the Godrich tracklist TT and the S+E demo tape they made are *relatively* clever ideas.
i am kind of starting to wonder if Scott finally figured out that they can just repackage the same stuff in different ways, add old flyers and art and stuff, put it on vinyl and people will buy it. no reason they can't / shouldn't fill in the gaps between anniversary years with 2 LP live sets.
until the color vinyl bubble bursts, a band like this can just milk that market forever, i think.
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:44 (three months ago) link
I think it’s v cool (luv that it has Haunt You Down / Jam Kids), tho I have most of em. Never heard of the Black Out 7”.
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:58 (three months ago) link
Wish they had somehow included Dancing With the Elders (split w/Medusa Cyclone)
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:59 (three months ago) link
no idea why someone would buy this, but i'm fine with them getting paid
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2024 05:05 (three months ago) link
how about: they don't have any of the band's 7"s?
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 05:45 (three months ago) link
still don't understand tbh, but i am (clearly) not a collector
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2024 06:05 (three months ago) link
Do people who buy these things know about Spotify? It's much cheaper
― H.P, Thursday, 14 March 2024 06:17 (three months ago) link
I’m fine with Pavement getting paid! I’m just being a jerk. Get them checks!
I think the TT reissue (even with the changed tracklist) seems more immediately logical - they’d done the prior studio albums, and this was them finally ending the cycle.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:10 (three months ago) link
"easily fooled" and "strings of nashville" are great
thassa lotta money tho
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:15 (three months ago) link
That box is cool but I'd rather Drag City or whoever just keep Perfect Sound Forever in print on its own.
― city worker, Thursday, 14 March 2024 11:44 (three months ago) link
Absolutely this. Feel like Sonic Youth starting to release physical editions of old archival shows has been successful, I'm sure they'd sell tons!
And I get why they'd release this box, there are plenty who will snap this up and they'll get paid, but... I can't imagine any Pavement thing I'd want less.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:46 (three months ago) link
<q>Do people who buy these things know about Spotify? It's much cheaper
― H.P, Wednesday, March 13, 2024 11:17 PM</q>
this is certainly one way to look at the music you love
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:23 (three months ago) link
god dammit
Never heard of the Black Out 7”.
This was a limited release available with pre-orders of the expanded WZ in 2006.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:49 (three months ago) link
New 7" records typically cost between $7-$15, so considering that this set is 17 records, the price isn't really outrageous by current standards.I've got a few of the originals between Summer Babe and Pacific Trim, and probably own just about everything else between Westing and the deluxe cds.The set does look pretty cool, graphics/packaging-wise, so I might do it.
― Mike Dixn, Thursday, 14 March 2024 21:56 (three months ago) link
You got what you deserved there alpine(This boxset does look vry cool and would be nice to have)
― H.P, Thursday, 14 March 2024 22:11 (three months ago) link
when i interviewed Spiral last year, this is what he said about future archival stuff:
Spiral Stairs: We did a big deal with Matador a few years ago to do the catalog worldwide, so we came up with a few ideas. The movie thing was one of them, reissuing Terror Twilight and Westing was another. We’re probably gonna do like a singles box. And I really want to do a proper box set. We’ve got a lot of live stuff that we’ve recorded over the years that we’ve never done anything with and there’s some very early stuff that I’ve unearthed. There’s really cool archival stuff that people would probably be interested in. Having it all in one nice box set would be great. The older I get, these box sets are all I buy now. [Laughs].
― tylerw, Thursday, 14 March 2024 22:19 (three months ago) link
true enough, HP.
good info, tylerw. sounds about like i imagined. i suspect Spiral wants to flush out the archives and pay his mortgage, and SM wants little to do with it but isn't going to stand in the way. no surprise the relationship with Matador changed a bit ... someone has to push them to keep the faucet dripping.
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link