xp The ghost of Harold Ross nixed a reference to Antonoff by jotting "Who he?" in the margin (that's a gag for all you Eustace Tilley charm-bracelet wearers).
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:26 (nine months ago) link
where'd you find info on the dude's case? xpost
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Thursday, September 7, 2023 8:22 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
google lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:29 (nine months ago) link
I mean look like any good left wing dude I’m all for leniency from the legal system. the court of public opinion imo reserves the right to judge
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:31 (nine months ago) link
Taylor Swift's power reaches even those who are imprisoned -- especially those who have some romantic woes going on in their lives.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:32 (nine months ago) link
Google doesn’t help much with a name like his
yeah you gotta search the state and year etc iirc
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:33 (nine months ago) link
fwiw the NYer publishes a lot of stuff online that they probably wouldn't consider for print, this essay included
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 00:36 (nine months ago) link
yeah I mean again…it’s pretty sophomoric stuff imo, it’s not gramsci or letter from a birmingham mail or anything. though I do agree the detailing of the mechanics of finding records in prison was interesting
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 00:39 (nine months ago) link
Yeah something come up for California in 2007 but the killer was 22, so he would not be 53 now
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 00:41 (nine months ago) link
https://casetext.com/case/people-v-garcia-1641
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:13 (nine months ago) link
I guess it’s tough to say if that’s him idk, murderer cum mediocre journalist writes essay for the new yorker either way
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:23 (nine months ago) link
Yeah that’s who I mean. He would be around 40 now.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:31 (nine months ago) link
IIRC, he doesn’t even mention any albums btw 1989 and Lover…
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:47 (nine months ago) link
(Oh sorry that’s just one. I mean he mentions 1989, Lover, and then Midnights. What’d he think of FolkMore?)
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:49 (nine months ago) link
i mean who cares, it is not even music writing really. i’m sure he was tapped into the pandemic era
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:49 (nine months ago) link
so what is it exactly…?
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, his fandom was the entire hook. Like when he mentioned arguing with another Swiftie about her best albums… like, tell me more. Those are the details I wanted; something to make it feel concrete from a “fan” perspective.
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (nine months ago) link
xxxxpost I think this is his actual case: https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/shots-fired-call-leads-officers-to-dead-body/
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:17 (nine months ago) link
idk i think a guy in prison detailing the specific ways he obtained and engaged with the music he likes is not exactly "music writing" and it's probably way closer to something like idk the obscure genre of writing known as the "personal essay" (which, sure, can also be music writing)
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 02:31 (nine months ago) link
xp Yeah, that's consistent with his brief account of the crime in a 2019 piece: https://archive.ph/UZ96g
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 02:38 (nine months ago) link
Well it’s not a very interesting or illuminating personal essay (IMO), and almost perhaps seems to put the New Yorker (Online) reader in an uncomfortably condescending position of marveling that a person in prison has an inner life and can express it in a serviceably written but basic essay. Just IMO
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:40 (nine months ago) link
*blinks* ok
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:02 (nine months ago) link
i think you’ve projected a whole attitude onto this essay that literally no one will ever approach it with bc you’re angry he didn’t mention folklore
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:07 (nine months ago) link
willing to drop this entire convo tho. i learned the specifics of how difficult it is to obtain music in prison, and how much more precious this can make like the experience of fandom itself. never encountered an essay that offered me that info before. it’s not beautifully written but it didn’t need to be. i’m not googling this guy also sorry
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:10 (nine months ago) link
Well that’s all fair. If anything, I’m probably projecting a certain attitude toward The New Yorker. (My request for more Swift specificity just comes from the desire to actually understand why he connects so strongly to Swift, which is the whole reason they published it – let’s be honest, they would not have if it were about Maroon 5 – and which I don’t feel it conveyed.)
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 03:26 (nine months ago) link
xp That's fair. I first heard about this essay from my dad, who has only heard one Taylor Swift song (the 10-minute All Too Well) but is sort of a Taylor Swift fan in theory - he thinks she's a wonderful human being and always lets me know whenever she does something nice for someone. What he got out of it was the part about starting out a closet Taylor Swift fan and then realizing that prison is full of Swifties, which he found surprising and endearing. And really I think this essay is aimed more at someone like my dad than at people writing about Taylor Swift on a music board.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 8 September 2023 03:30 (nine months ago) link
yes! she’s got jams! loved that part
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:52 (nine months ago) link
I understand the impulse to do so but I find googling the guy way more "distasteful" than the essay itself
― Murgatroid, Friday, 8 September 2023 03:58 (nine months ago) link
sorry my curiosity got the best of me after the link to the wrong case was posted
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 04:08 (nine months ago) link
yeah googling the thing he admitted to doing in detail in several articles and is actually public record is 'distasteful'
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 04:12 (nine months ago) link
(in my case, it was mere curiosity since he hinted at it in the Swift article and my brain doesn't like loose ends)
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 04:13 (nine months ago) link
I don't even think it's that distasteful in the grand scheme of things that are as such and I only pretty much said what I said because I still don't know what's so distasteful about the article but you do know that something being in the public sphere doesn't exclude it from being distasteful, right
― Murgatroid, Friday, 8 September 2023 04:21 (nine months ago) link
I don't get this whole thing about not being able to figure out what he liked about Swift - I thought he made it pretty clear several times. He liked that she gave him a connection to the outside world. He liked how excited she was to talk about songwriting. He liked that it gave him a way to connect to his fellow inmates. He liked that her lyrics mirrored his own experiences with relationships and coming to terms with his own mistakes.
sure it's not written in the most articulate way but surprise, writing about music is hard. and a lot harder for people who don't read pitchfork reviews and ilm posts regularly
and i'm personally glad that the new yorker is publishing and editing writing by prison inmates, they should do that more often instead of agnes callard or whoever
― Roz, Friday, 8 September 2023 05:14 (nine months ago) link
lol Gannett is hiring an actual "Taylor Swift Reporter" — https://us231.dayforcehcm.com/CandidatePortal/en-US/gannett/Posting/View/63544.
Taylor Swift Reporter
USA TODAY and The Tennessean/tennessean.com, part of the USA TODAY NETWORK, seeking an experienced, video-forward journalist to capture the music and cultural impact of Taylor Swift.
Swift's fanbase has grown to unprecedented heights, and so has the significance of her music and growing legacy. We are looking for an energetic writer, photographer and social media pro who can quench an undeniable thirst for all things Taylor Swift with a steady stream of content across multiple platforms. Seeing both the facts and the fury, the Taylor Swift reporter will identify why the pop star’s influence only expands, what her fanbase stands for in pop culture, and the effect she has across the music and business worlds.
The successful candidate is a driven, creative and energetic journalist able to capture the excitement around Swift's ongoing tour and upcoming album release, while also providing thoughtful analysis of her music and career.
We are looking for a journalist with a voice — but not a bias — able to quickly cultivate a national audience through smart content designed to meet readers on their terms. This reporter will chronicle the biggest moments on the next portions of Taylor Swift’s tour, offering readers of USA TODAY, The Tennessean and more than 200 local news sources an inside view.
This journalist must be willing (and legally allowed) to travel internationally.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:38 (nine months ago) link
lol I came here to post that and hoo boy
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:42 (nine months ago) link
Wake me once the New Yorker hires a Taylor Swift correspondent
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:04 (nine months ago) link
what happens if she gets cancelled and becomes a pariah overnight
does the reporter lose their job too or gets transferred to another dept
"you were the Taylor Swift Reporter, now you are the City Hall Reporter"
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:08 (nine months ago) link
Reassigned to Jason Aldean
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:13 (nine months ago) link
“You’re on the Greta Van Fleet beat”
― Taylor Swift Reporter (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:16 (nine months ago) link
https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*IyI3t6Ol93-ahdRN9nBQFw.jpeg
“I was at a party once, and, uh, Taylor put her hand over a candle, and she kept it there. she kept it right in the flame until her flesh was burned. Somebody said, "What's the trick?" And Taylor said, "The trick is not minding."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 02:06 (nine months ago) link
Imagine dealing with the Swifties, yowza.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 02:26 (nine months ago) link
They're predicting a $100-$125 million dollar opening for the movie. That's essentially just printing money.
Also, for voter registration day, which might have been Tuesday, a post by Swift drove some 13,000 users every 30 minutes to vote.org, reportedly netting (so far) 35,000 new voter registrations.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:45 (nine months ago) link
Everything helps, and 35k is a huge number, but you can’t help but wonder how many more she could have signed up (especially in TX, GA, TN, PA) if she had partnered with Headcount to set up booths at her concerts as other artists do. Not to cast shade on a good thing! But some folks are taking like she’s single-handedly leading a youth voter wave, and, well… hopefully she’ll do more over the next year!
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Friday, 22 September 2023 03:50 (nine months ago) link
If I had her power (but was still me) you better believe I'd be working to destroy the right / Republican party permanently.
― alpine static, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:54 (nine months ago) link
Did you know these flags are apparently a popular thing(?) IMO, this is going a little far...
https://i.etsystatic.com/30929088/r/il/12f5e0/5010714171/il_794xN.5010714171_k4ou.jpg
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Saturday, 23 September 2023 12:18 (nine months ago) link
Again?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 23 September 2023 13:20 (nine months ago) link
she is the one who voted illegally in 50 states to get Biden the victory
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:18 (nine months ago) link
Must be exhausting always writing-in the anti-hero
― Vinnie, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:29 (nine months ago) link
I've honestly wondered why more artists don't do this. A @taylorswift13 tour to swing states shortly before voter registration deadlines and/or prior to the election could honestly swing the election. Just need to limit ticket sales to people with an in-state zip code. https://t.co/DCSThbXyIP— Secrets and Laws (@secretsandlaws) September 27, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:07 (eight months ago) link