i mean who cares, it is not even music writing really. i’m sure he was tapped into the pandemic era
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
so what is it exactly…?
― k3vin k., Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
Yeah, his fandom was the entire hook. Like when he mentioned arguing with another Swiftie about her best albums… like, tell me more. Those are the details I wanted; something to make it feel concrete from a “fan” perspective.
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
xxxxpost I think this is his actual case: https://www.lapdonline.org/newsroom/shots-fired-call-leads-officers-to-dead-body/
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link
idk i think a guy in prison detailing the specific ways he obtained and engaged with the music he likes is not exactly "music writing" and it's probably way closer to something like idk the obscure genre of writing known as the "personal essay" (which, sure, can also be music writing)
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link
xp Yeah, that's consistent with his brief account of the crime in a 2019 piece: https://archive.ph/UZ96g
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 02:38 (one year ago) link
Well it’s not a very interesting or illuminating personal essay (IMO), and almost perhaps seems to put the New Yorker (Online) reader in an uncomfortably condescending position of marveling that a person in prison has an inner life and can express it in a serviceably written but basic essay. Just IMO
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link
*blinks* ok
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
i think you’ve projected a whole attitude onto this essay that literally no one will ever approach it with bc you’re angry he didn’t mention folklore
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
willing to drop this entire convo tho. i learned the specifics of how difficult it is to obtain music in prison, and how much more precious this can make like the experience of fandom itself. never encountered an essay that offered me that info before. it’s not beautifully written but it didn’t need to be. i’m not googling this guy also sorry
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link
Well that’s all fair. If anything, I’m probably projecting a certain attitude toward The New Yorker. (My request for more Swift specificity just comes from the desire to actually understand why he connects so strongly to Swift, which is the whole reason they published it – let’s be honest, they would not have if it were about Maroon 5 – and which I don’t feel it conveyed.)
― Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Friday, 8 September 2023 03:26 (one year ago) link
xp That's fair. I first heard about this essay from my dad, who has only heard one Taylor Swift song (the 10-minute All Too Well) but is sort of a Taylor Swift fan in theory - he thinks she's a wonderful human being and always lets me know whenever she does something nice for someone. What he got out of it was the part about starting out a closet Taylor Swift fan and then realizing that prison is full of Swifties, which he found surprising and endearing. And really I think this essay is aimed more at someone like my dad than at people writing about Taylor Swift on a music board.
― Lily Dale, Friday, 8 September 2023 03:30 (one year ago) link
yes! she’s got jams! loved that part
― ivy., Friday, 8 September 2023 03:52 (one year ago) link
I understand the impulse to do so but I find googling the guy way more "distasteful" than the essay itself
― Murgatroid, Friday, 8 September 2023 03:58 (one year ago) link
sorry my curiosity got the best of me after the link to the wrong case was posted
― jaymc, Friday, 8 September 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link
yeah googling the thing he admitted to doing in detail in several articles and is actually public record is 'distasteful'
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 04:12 (one year ago) link
(in my case, it was mere curiosity since he hinted at it in the Swift article and my brain doesn't like loose ends)
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 September 2023 04:13 (one year ago) link
I don't even think it's that distasteful in the grand scheme of things that are as such and I only pretty much said what I said because I still don't know what's so distasteful about the article but you do know that something being in the public sphere doesn't exclude it from being distasteful, right
― Murgatroid, Friday, 8 September 2023 04:21 (one year ago) link
I don't get this whole thing about not being able to figure out what he liked about Swift - I thought he made it pretty clear several times. He liked that she gave him a connection to the outside world. He liked how excited she was to talk about songwriting. He liked that it gave him a way to connect to his fellow inmates. He liked that her lyrics mirrored his own experiences with relationships and coming to terms with his own mistakes.
sure it's not written in the most articulate way but surprise, writing about music is hard. and a lot harder for people who don't read pitchfork reviews and ilm posts regularly
and i'm personally glad that the new yorker is publishing and editing writing by prison inmates, they should do that more often instead of agnes callard or whoever
― Roz, Friday, 8 September 2023 05:14 (one year ago) link
lol Gannett is hiring an actual "Taylor Swift Reporter" — https://us231.dayforcehcm.com/CandidatePortal/en-US/gannett/Posting/View/63544.
Taylor Swift Reporter
USA TODAY and The Tennessean/tennessean.com, part of the USA TODAY NETWORK, seeking an experienced, video-forward journalist to capture the music and cultural impact of Taylor Swift.
Swift's fanbase has grown to unprecedented heights, and so has the significance of her music and growing legacy. We are looking for an energetic writer, photographer and social media pro who can quench an undeniable thirst for all things Taylor Swift with a steady stream of content across multiple platforms. Seeing both the facts and the fury, the Taylor Swift reporter will identify why the pop star’s influence only expands, what her fanbase stands for in pop culture, and the effect she has across the music and business worlds.
The successful candidate is a driven, creative and energetic journalist able to capture the excitement around Swift's ongoing tour and upcoming album release, while also providing thoughtful analysis of her music and career.
We are looking for a journalist with a voice — but not a bias — able to quickly cultivate a national audience through smart content designed to meet readers on their terms. This reporter will chronicle the biggest moments on the next portions of Taylor Swift’s tour, offering readers of USA TODAY, The Tennessean and more than 200 local news sources an inside view.
This journalist must be willing (and legally allowed) to travel internationally.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link
lol I came here to post that and hoo boy
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
Wake me once the New Yorker hires a Taylor Swift correspondent
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
what happens if she gets cancelled and becomes a pariah overnight
does the reporter lose their job too or gets transferred to another dept
"you were the Taylor Swift Reporter, now you are the City Hall Reporter"
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
Reassigned to Jason Aldean
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
“You’re on the Greta Van Fleet beat”
― Taylor Swift Reporter (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link
https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*IyI3t6Ol93-ahdRN9nBQFw.jpeg
“I was at a party once, and, uh, Taylor put her hand over a candle, and she kept it there. she kept it right in the flame until her flesh was burned. Somebody said, "What's the trick?" And Taylor said, "The trick is not minding."
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link
Imagine dealing with the Swifties, yowza.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 02:26 (one year ago) link
They're predicting a $100-$125 million dollar opening for the movie. That's essentially just printing money.
Also, for voter registration day, which might have been Tuesday, a post by Swift drove some 13,000 users every 30 minutes to vote.org, reportedly netting (so far) 35,000 new voter registrations.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
Everything helps, and 35k is a huge number, but you can’t help but wonder how many more she could have signed up (especially in TX, GA, TN, PA) if she had partnered with Headcount to set up booths at her concerts as other artists do. Not to cast shade on a good thing! But some folks are taking like she’s single-handedly leading a youth voter wave, and, well… hopefully she’ll do more over the next year!
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Friday, 22 September 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link
If I had her power (but was still me) you better believe I'd be working to destroy the right / Republican party permanently.
― alpine static, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:54 (one year ago) link
Did you know these flags are apparently a popular thing(?) IMO, this is going a little far...
https://i.etsystatic.com/30929088/r/il/12f5e0/5010714171/il_794xN.5010714171_k4ou.jpg
― stylized in all lowercase (morrisp), Saturday, 23 September 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link
Again?
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 23 September 2023 13:20 (one year ago) link
she is the one who voted illegally in 50 states to get Biden the victory
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
Must be exhausting always writing-in the anti-hero
― Vinnie, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
I've honestly wondered why more artists don't do this. A @taylorswift13 tour to swing states shortly before voter registration deadlines and/or prior to the election could honestly swing the election. Just need to limit ticket sales to people with an in-state zip code. https://t.co/DCSThbXyIP— Secrets and Laws (@secretsandlaws) September 27, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
SwiftVote Veterans for Truth
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link
Last time I remember anyone doing anything like this was the Vote for Change tour, with Springsteen, Fogerty, Dixie Chicks, Pearl Jam, REM, Death Cab, Bright Eyes, a few others. Didn't move the needle much, but the shows I saw were great! I stood next to Michael Stipe for some of the show, there was a mini set of Bruce et al. backing Fogerty ... and Kerry lost.
Anyway, I wish she did this, it could make a difference.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
2004 was the first election I really followed from start-to-finish because at the time it seemed like the stakes were so much higher than anything else in my lifetime. I also remember not getting my hopes up that Bruce et al would change anything because quite a few articles suggested that the country was too polarized to have that many swing voters (i.e. it would be a close election, which it was) and that most people attending those shows were already likely to vote Kerry. Wish I had seen those shows, just to have seen some of them at a reasonable peak rather than wait until they were audibly much older. (Fogerty especially, also Mellencamp)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
It is a little hard to imagine Swift going on a full-on pro-Biden tour, considering that she didn't even endorse a candidate in 2016.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
Springsteen never endorsed a candidate until 2004.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
My daughter told me that it's a running joke among Swift fans that her 1989 World Tour concert film features too much frenetic editing. So hilariously, someone posted on Tik Tok (I assume?) a version of "Blank Space" that accelerates every time there's a cut, starting normal before quickly careening out of control like a runaway merry go round.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR7rMHSV/
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
Snagged some of the just-announced early Eras tickets for tomorrow afternoon. Finally my procrastination pays off!
― Indexed, Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:50 (eleven months ago) link
And having seen said film -- that was very good, I thought.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 October 2023 21:31 (eleven months ago) link
Has any other act released a big-budget tour film while the big-budget tour is still touring?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:10 (eleven months ago) link
Justin Beiber: Never Say Never
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link
Good for him. Bieber is one of those acts that may as well be touring all the time, I have no idea, lol.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 October 2023 22:25 (eleven months ago) link
Film was very good indeed. Had a really good time with my kid. Our showtime was during school hours, so we were maybe 12 in the entire theater? Judging by the tik toks, it was a much different experience than what most got this weekend, but it was still joyful and loads of fun to sing along and dance in our seats together.
As a film, I most appreciated its simplicity: it is literally just the show, in its near entirety, with some modest FX introducing each era. The show itself has been well documented, but despite knowing many people who went, none seemed aware of just how much performing the dancers were doing. One in particular stole a couple scenes and was a riot.
― Indexed, Monday, 16 October 2023 17:41 (eleven months ago) link
I wonder if the “concert film” is about to become A THING, the way super hero movies were.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:07 (eleven months ago) link
I would think there are only a handful of artists who can bring in big enough crowds to make it profitable?
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Monday, 16 October 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link