Still seemingly loads of tickets left for her gig tonight in a 275 person capacity pub in Guildford (they just opened up a tickets only option where originally you had to buy a copy of the album to get in). Bit ignominious, maybe she needs to take Babybird up on that offer after all
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:44 (nine months ago) link
Just to update the .xls, these are the superstars of popular music that have stepped up to the plate for her so far afaicr:
BabybirdRebecca FergussonCarol Decker from T'Pau
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:49 (nine months ago) link
Dave Haslam, professional Hacienda nostalgist, can also be added
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:54 (nine months ago) link
Not Decker!!!
― droid, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:58 (nine months ago) link
her twitter is an absolute horrorshow, think we can all guess what the T stands for now
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:05 (nine months ago) link
The whole 'fortunately I never liked her anyway / what a relief the record is bad' thing is really tiresome.
i really quite liked her and so am weirdly relieved that the album is a disappointment
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:38 (nine months ago) link
Surprised Right Said Fred haven't piped up xps
― groovypanda, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:00 (nine months ago) link
Noooo not Decker
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:07 (nine months ago) link
It's not even that I'm a fan it's just that my dad apparently used to go out with her pre-fame and it's hitherto been a fun thing to bring up.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:08 (nine months ago) link
Noticed that Billy Bragg was trending the other day as he was berating Murphy for her stance.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:09 (nine months ago) link
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:14 (nine months ago) link
as for an actually substantive post to respond to, yeah, Daniel Rf, the money thing is the big element, but I still mention the noxious views of certain writers when I teach them.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:17 (nine months ago) link
wow someone's touchy (like, even more than me)
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:30 (nine months ago) link
She’s a book from the 80s trying to convince you that it’s reasonable to cook eggs in a microwave.
lol
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:52 (nine months ago) link
that thing where you can't find anyone that wants to come to the pub with you
Join me TONIGHT for an up close and personal, stripped back set @recordcorneruk in Guildford. EVERY ALBUM SOLD AT THE EVENT WILL BE SIGNED. Limited tickets are available 🖤 https://t.co/LFEWq9AQdE pic.twitter.com/4eaZj0cNF5— Róisín Murphy (@roisinmurphy) September 14, 2023
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:40 (nine months ago) link
Terfs HATE Billy Bragg because he speaks up for trans people.
Anyway RM actually used ‘TRA’ in her initial post, which is not a TLA used by anyone outside gender critical circles. That’s how trans people and their allies knew she’d been wormholed.
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:41 (nine months ago) link
Terfs hate Owen Jones too. I think that's part of how 'centrist dads' get wormholed.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:43 (nine months ago) link
just assume that under every soi-disant centrist there's a raving fash straining to be unleashed and you'll almost always be right
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:45 (nine months ago) link
Tom D has already cited the relevant Spinal Tap bit to cover Murphy's new gig strategy
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:46 (nine months ago) link
loads of terfs have changed their display names on twitter to Billy Bragg for some reason, when I see one I report them for impersonation, just on the off-chance that I can make their day slightly worse.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:52 (nine months ago) link
iirc it's some asinine point about how they're 'identifying' as him
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 13:07 (nine months ago) link
great fans, beautiful fans
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 14 September 2023 13:11 (nine months ago) link
What are some other good DJ Koze albums?
― piscesx, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:07 (nine months ago) link
He does great work most of the time, but he may have been trending yesterday because a TERF was complaining about being harassed somewhere and he posted "here's a picture of you from a different angle, you don't seem harassed, you're smiling" and that ... didn't go well.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:09 (nine months ago) link
(Billy Bragg that is, not Koze)
xp I like Kosi Comes Around a bunch. And how can it be that it came out, gulp, 18 years ago?!
― henry s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:19 (nine months ago) link
I mean maybe those people genuinely like music you don't like? I think Murphy is a toxic fool and would be glad to see this record disappear but are you genuinely surprised that there are writers who like a record you think is awful and sucks? how old are you?
It’s not “it’s awful and it sucks”, it’s “it’s unbelievably inept and it’s so poorly made and performed that it’s a joke without a punchline”. Yes, I am surprised that writers misjudged a record that is bad from any angle, in any context; it’s not a question of taste, this album is dogshit with bleach sauce.
What is even more tiresome? reading endless ink about a problematic artist and then investigating to find out their music is entirely ignorable badly made garbage, see also Ariel Pink
Excluding an allegedly Irish woman from Irishness was a deliberate acknowledgement of the fact that the rise of TERFdom seems to be primarily a UK phenomenon, and is being heavily resisted in Ireland, because Irish people aren’t assholes. My regrets abt last nights “raisin” posts are not because I have any anti-Irish sentiment in me but because there’s an overtone of ageism that is unnecessary, and for that I apologize
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:49 (nine months ago) link
any take which implies the person writing it is the ultimate arbiter of what's good and what's bad is arrogant and annoying
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:54 (nine months ago) link
I dont know who DJ Koze is but has he made a statement one way or the other in the wake of this?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
This absurd vitriol about the album is making me want to hear it more and that's a bad thing.
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
I think these debates always end up focusing so much on "fandom" and "ok to like" to the exclusion of the main reason I think of when I decide to no longer support an artist - money. A recently deceased outsider Jazz artist and dead anti-semitic poets are a bad fit for Murphy, who is an artist with a new album to promote. I'd never buy a ticket for a new Polanski film, but am happy to watch The Tenant or Rosemary's Baby because he's unlikely to benefit from that in any way (specially if I pirate it). I don't want Murphy to benefit financially from her bigotry right now, if 80 years some ppl dig up this record and decide it rules that's fine.
― Daniel_Rf
I agree with this. Supporting her at the moment is giving her a voice and a platform for a bunch of twitter transphobes to hop on.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table)
This is the correct way to approach decades old content imho. I think history and art shouldn’t be erased or censored. Guiding students on how certain views or immoral people/content were normalized and laureated even when they had hurtful things in them is an important part of forming criteria.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:58 (nine months ago) link
Excluding an allegedly Irish woman from Irishness was a deliberate acknowledgement of the fact that the rise of TERFdom seems to be primarily a UK phenomenon, and is being heavily resisted in Ireland, because Irish people aren’t assholes.
There's as many assholes in Ireland as anywhere. I have no idea where you're getting the idea that Ireland is gallantly resisting the rise of TERFdom either.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:00 (nine months ago) link
Everywhere shines compared to the UK at the moment
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:01 (nine months ago) link
Probably but let's leave the green tinted spectacles to one side for a moment.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:04 (nine months ago) link
Having been to Boston, I can confirm that the Irish are the most tolerant people on Earth
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:05 (nine months ago) link
Russia just passed a bill banning all gender-affirming healthcare, so probably up there with the UK
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:05 (nine months ago) link
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
Russian Murphy
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:07 (nine months ago) link
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:09 (nine months ago) link
Yes, I am surprised that writers misjudged a record that is bad from any angle, in any context; it’s not a question of taste, this album is dogshit with bleach sauce.
I mean I guess ultimately I don't believe that any piece of art can objectively be good or bad, or that there are any objective facts over the quality of art, that an opinion is by definition subjective and that anyone who suggests otherwise is either a fool or a charlatan, but I have no wish whatsoever to hear this record so I'll peace out of this argument tbh
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:09 (nine months ago) link
Well, to you gyac, and other Irish posters and readers, I offer my apologies! I hoped my own part-Irish genetics and general enthusiasm for the country and it’s culture would give me a pass, but it was a stupid assumption on my end and I am sorry.
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
Thank you.
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
Dj Koze is a fantastic oddball producer, his solo and remix work is definitely worth a listen. He’s not very active on social media iirc, I think he has an ig account but he mostly posts new releases. He doesn’t do much interviews either… I’m not aware of his current stance about this but wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t say anything. He worked on-off this album for years and he should be proud about his work. I’d be angry and frustrated at the whole situation since it was so easily avoidable and fixable.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:16 (nine months ago) link
As someone of Irish descent I hereby give fgti permission to mock the Irish
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:18 (nine months ago) link
Roisin has some classic songs, this album is a creative flop, it kind of sucks to feel like people can only be honest about this stuff when the person is Problematic in some fatally flawed way
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:19 (nine months ago) link
Here’s an interview for the Guardian. It confirms he doesn’t like social media much and it’s his first interview in five years. It was done before this shitshow:
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2023/aug/02/demons-dj-koze-summer-anthem-genius-bangermeister
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:20 (nine months ago) link
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:22 (nine months ago) link
I’ve returned your permission slip to you D-40, unredeemed, with appreciation.
Generally in life and on this board I reserve my enthusiasm for “things that are great” and I’m myself jarred at reading my own responses regarding “something that is bad”, I’m gonna put the hater gloves back in the shed
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:23 (nine months ago) link
If that's in reference to my post may I clarify you are welcome and indeed encouraged to hate on a piece of music as hard as you like, it's healthy, but I do believe that the opposing opinion can be just as valid for those who hold it.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:29 (nine months ago) link
honestly I think questions of "is this good" or not are irrelevant right now. I've enjoyed her work in the past and I can't listen to it now because she's chosen evil
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:30 (nine months ago) link