I can assure you it isn’t
― ydkb (gyac), Thursday, September 14, 2023 10:51 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yes save the patronizing for “the diaspora”
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 14 September 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
think she actually spends more time living in Ibiza than anywhere elseThe Sherburne piece says she moved to Brigante’s villa in Ibiza about three and a half years ago, to escape lockdown. Whether this has any bearing on her now exhibiting facebook brainworms is an exercise for the armchair speculator.
― vashti funyuns (sic), Thursday, 14 September 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
the art/artist debate is tired and has been used to prop up the worst people in entertainment for decades so I have no patience for it xp
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 14 September 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
*xps
Big Bren, giddy like a schoolboy.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/14/roisin-murphy-olivia-rodrigo-no1-album-after-trans-row/
Fans have rushed to buy the record, urged on by comedy writer and gender-critical campaigner Graham Linehan and Brendan O’Neill, the author and free-speech advocate, who have enjoined their online followers to support Murphy.O’Neill told The Telegraph: “It looks like cancel culture has finally met its match.“The digital inquisition thought it could drag Murphy down but they’ve had a rude awakening.“Loads of people are buying her album, firstly because it’s brilliant, and secondly because they want to show solidarity with a woman who was so ruthlessly and unfairly demonised by woke loons."
O’Neill told The Telegraph: “It looks like cancel culture has finally met its match.
“The digital inquisition thought it could drag Murphy down but they’ve had a rude awakening.
“Loads of people are buying her album, firstly because it’s brilliant, and secondly because they want to show solidarity with a woman who was so ruthlessly and unfairly demonised by woke loons."
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:05 (one year ago) link
do we have to post all this shit we already know how it goes
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link
Is it interfering with the clear-eyed assessment of the album that you bookmarked this thread for?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:16 (one year ago) link
Interestingly the one post that she's liked pertaining to this whole saga is this one...
You've just given an apology to Glinner. It undermines your claims to be against people exploiting LGBT people for their own ends.You also have most of the press to back you up, so hardly some voice in the wilderness. All you're doing is making the world worse for LGBT people.— Bjerkley (@Bjerkeley) September 5, 2023
― NickB, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link
According to the BBC yesterday, Rodrigo has sold more than the rest of the top ten combined
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:19 (one year ago) link
hey Andrew stfu
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:26 (one year ago) link
well what do you suggest we use the Roisin Murphy thread for
I agree that it's all very depressing and predictable but venting about that is p much all there is at the moment imo
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link
idk kill it
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:29 (one year ago) link
or just post whatever and let me be pissy about it
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link
Apologies, I forgot you're in charge of the thread.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link
That sounds about right.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link
maybe worth considering why some people might be more invested than others xp
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link
You more than anyone else, of course.
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:42 (one year ago) link
I was never more than a casual fan so rejecting the music was easy for me but now I have to hear about her terf baby steps every fucking day for some reason whereas before this I could go months without thinking of her (even though I liked who I imagined her to be)
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link
and fuck you too tom
OK, you win, I won't post in the thread again. Happy?
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link
of course not
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link
It's quite easy, Left. You just don't need to click on this thread if you don't want to read about it.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link
fuck you too
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:52 (one year ago) link
I often get exhausted and depressed by ppl eagerly documenting every step of some person's assholeishness, have one friend in particular who does this a lot and it's a very pernicious variation on doomscrolling imo
that being said if I click on a thread about said asshole that's on me
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:53 (one year ago) link
no need to be depressed, it's fuck you Friday
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link
if that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world
that said if it's just standard UK media autopilot bullshit with no new content I don't know why we need to see it xp
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:01 (one year ago) link
have sympathy for Left here given their rights are what's at stake in the UK rn, although I'm not sure how much RM has done to materially affect them other than stir the blood of the transphobes for a few fleeting weeks. these vampires fasten onto any perceived validation, but it feels like she'd rather this all went away rather than joining their coven. temporary damage done. potential for amends in the longer run? for now, fuck her ofc, but fuck this government and journalist class harder
― imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:05 (one year ago) link
every one of these things has material effects, every celebrity transphobe comment and every UK press article is accompanied by real world violence that gets no coverage
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link
not even getting into the psychological and physiological effects all this stuff which seems pretty material to me
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:09 (one year ago) link
*of all this stuff
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link
oh doubtless the climate of hatred which is maintained at all turns by these ghouls is an ongoing crime against humanity. if you say that RM's words have led to an uptick in transphobic violence you and those you know have experienced then fair enough
― imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:11 (one year ago) link
OK do I need to have proof that this is linked to that because that's what terfs say all the time - it's a movement based on simultaneously inciting and disavowing (mostly) male violence so nothing sticks to them by design
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 11:25 (one year ago) link
I said 'fair enough'! it isn't for me to contradict your lived experience, and the ongoing foregrounding of a transphobic discourse is a major reason for the emboldened violence
― imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link
anyway she's now posting on her Instagram (which I have yet to click unfollow on, more fool me) "Hit Parade is a critical success because it's brilliant" which if ever there was a sign someone needs an intervention
― boxedjoy, Friday, 15 September 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link
I have to hear
Learning this is not true is one of the great experiences of getting older.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link
how nice for you
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:58 (one year ago) link
idk, maybe it would help to make your very valid point land a little better if every response wasn't a "fuck you" or snide sarcasm
(i know, i know.. fuck me too, i'll save you some typing on my way out of this thread)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 September 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
if this is just going to be a tabloid gawk fest repeating hate speech, I totally see left’s point. “If that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world”^^^^^^^
― brimstead, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
I'm really at a loss here. Articles like the Torgraph one posted DO have effects, they contribute to the climate of hatred and violence just as Left themselves said here. But if that's not what's meant by effects that trans people need to protect themselves from, what is, within the context of a thread about a musician?
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link
idk I'm not sure who's helped by hearing brendan o'neill say exactly what you expect him to say it's not even really about her is it it's like plug in the name here
post whatever you want though and if it upsets me I'll ignore it or take issue with it depending on my mood / your luck
― die cis scum (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
there is a significant portion of the internet devoted to "look at this bigot being a bigot," it's one of the reasons i left twitter
― ivy., Friday, 15 September 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link
even if it's in the spirit of ridicule, i was better off not knowing about it
I don't think anyone's helped by that either, aside perhaps from the positive feedback loop of telling each other that yes these people are scum and there's others who feel the same way about that. But as said before I am very sympathetic to not wanting to have to hear about that shit, and regularly avoid various threads about bigots for that reason.
I also take your point that you might need to hear about these people for reasons of personal safety, but if the Torygraph piece doesn't qualify as something that you need to know about by that rationale...I just don't know what Roisin Murphy-related activity would be. But whatever, not my place to do a taxonomy of that.
xposts
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
What a cast iron wanker
https://x.com/petepaphides/status/1702746847645680127?s=46&t=bJOqpCuQneT7ju08y55VSA
― piscesx, Friday, 15 September 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link
Can BBC Verify or the @bbcpress verify or deny that singer Roisin Murphy has been cancelled by the BBC after criticising puberty blockers?Five hours of Ms Murphy's songs, interviews and highlights of her concerts were put together for a programme called the 6 Music Artist…— Andrew Neil (@afneil) September 13, 2023
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/ZGmSCQp/IMG-3815.jpg
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:39 (one year ago) link
Thought he'd be too busy defending Brand for this
― nashwan, Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link
That was from last week, so it was a day or two before the Brand story took off iirc
― NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link
Long time fan of Roisin Murphy, of course.....
― I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link
cool to see the guy who steered a national newspaper into printing a series of stories about how hiv didn't cause aids has learned absolutely fucking nothing about shutting up on matters best left to medical professionals
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link