I agree about "Star AD", but the song has grown on me over the years. "Take This Bottle" less so.
I love the guitar work, and solo, in "The Last to Know" so much.
― beard papa, Friday, 22 September 2023 16:45 (eight months ago) link
I like Star AD a fair bit. Take This Bottle is... a kind of dull and overlong attempt at doomy country balladeering, yeah not essential
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:02 (eight months ago) link
It makes me wonder really where FNM sit between themselves and Mr Bungle. Most of us, it's safe to say, come to Bungle for the madcap genre-fucking spectacle of it all, which is part of the appeal of Angel Dust it seems. So where does that leave Patton's FNM other than a more trad version of Bungle?
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:04 (eight months ago) link
They're two different bands
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 September 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link
They are, but don't you think Patton's fascinations had a huge influence on both bands (not to mention his other projects)?
― beard papa, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:53 (eight months ago) link
I think there's the manic Naked City/Zorny every-song/sound-is-different side of Patton, but he's also into prolonged genre exercises (as is Zorn, sometimes, too). Exotica, Morricone soundtracks, lounge music, etc. It's been a while since I listened to many of his albums, but iirc the prolonged exercises often lacked the zip I wanted from him. "King for a Day," imo, sounds more akin to that stuff, less unhinged, more steady/disciplined, maybe.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:02 (eight months ago) link
I think Bungle was a bunch of friends from nowhere California growing up on the same influences and molding them into a sound, and FNM was 4 or 5 guys throwing their own unique backgrounds and obsessions into a bowl and seeing what comes out
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:53 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, Bungle always seemed more like a team/gang. FNM, I don't know much about the individual dudes, how divergent were their tastes and backgrounds?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 September 2023 18:55 (eight months ago) link
Like iirc when I talked to Billy, he told me that he basically sent the "Another Body Murdered" recording to Mike to do his thing on it and got back all those screams and was like "You sure this is what you want to do?" and obviously that's the version we hear today
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:55 (eight months ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 22, 2023 2:55 PM (nineteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
I mean, Billy and Roddy were teenage punx who grew into post-punk, Puff liked Ozzy but all three of them were intrigued by rap and electro emerging in the early '80s, Jim was obviously a metal dude who was buddies with Metallica, Mike came from Bungleland which was basically bizarro thrash metal then Boingo ska then Zorn kitchen sink nuttiness and then he spent the Angel Dust press cycle basically trying to get people to listen to Hanatarash and Kids of Widney High
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
The disparateness is what makes them such a unique and special band
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 September 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link
i think of patton as having a bigger creative force in bungle than he does in FNM.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 22 September 2023 19:07 (eight months ago) link
Another Body Murdered is so savage.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 22 September 2023 22:40 (eight months ago) link
Roddy and Billy went to high school together in LA
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 September 2023 23:00 (eight months ago) link
Xp it really is. 30 years on and it still sounds genuinely dangerous
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:31 (eight months ago) link
Patton's ooohh-ah-oohhh bassline is the perfect stage-setter for the boo-yaa voices, he absolutely shouldn't have come up with a verse
― vashti funyuns (sic), Saturday, 23 September 2023 19:50 (eight months ago) link