steve. . . you're killing me
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 21:05 (eight months ago) link
The Wedding Present's bass player bought a copy in New York, brought it back to Leeds and within a year the Weddoes recorded (with Steve Albini!) a cover of "Box Elder" as a b-side to "Brassneck". That's somewhat amazing in retrospect.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 January 2024 02:28 (eight months ago) link
Pavement never got credited for that on 'Bizarro' either iirc
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Thursday, 18 January 2024 14:44 (eight months ago) link
Covered by The Wedding Present was definitely something that popped up in every early mention of Pavement I saw in the music press.
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:07 (eight months ago) link
is it is good as their Steve Harley cover?
― Pictish in the Woods (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 January 2024 15:39 (eight months ago) link
Definitely not.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 January 2024 17:57 (eight months ago) link
7” box set announced: https://store.matadorrecords.com/cautionary-tales-jukebox-classiques
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:02 (six months ago) link
I keep saying this, but if they want my money they’ll release select live shows as physical media
Some of other things they’ve done (like this) kinda baffle me
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:34 (six months ago) link
standalone repro of og swirl grey vinyl Demolition Plot w/ racecar tire stamp on inner sleeve or gtfo
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 14 March 2024 00:53 (six months ago) link
xpost i dunno, i think things like this and the Godrich tracklist TT and the S+E demo tape they made are *relatively* clever ideas.
i am kind of starting to wonder if Scott finally figured out that they can just repackage the same stuff in different ways, add old flyers and art and stuff, put it on vinyl and people will buy it. no reason they can't / shouldn't fill in the gaps between anniversary years with 2 LP live sets.
until the color vinyl bubble bursts, a band like this can just milk that market forever, i think.
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:44 (six months ago) link
I think it’s v cool (luv that it has Haunt You Down / Jam Kids), tho I have most of em. Never heard of the Black Out 7”.
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:58 (six months ago) link
Wish they had somehow included Dancing With the Elders (split w/Medusa Cyclone)
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Thursday, 14 March 2024 03:59 (six months ago) link
no idea why someone would buy this, but i'm fine with them getting paid
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2024 05:05 (six months ago) link
how about: they don't have any of the band's 7"s?
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 05:45 (six months ago) link
still don't understand tbh, but i am (clearly) not a collector
― mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2024 06:05 (six months ago) link
Do people who buy these things know about Spotify? It's much cheaper
― H.P, Thursday, 14 March 2024 06:17 (six months ago) link
I’m fine with Pavement getting paid! I’m just being a jerk. Get them checks!
I think the TT reissue (even with the changed tracklist) seems more immediately logical - they’d done the prior studio albums, and this was them finally ending the cycle.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:10 (six months ago) link
"easily fooled" and "strings of nashville" are great
thassa lotta money tho
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 March 2024 10:15 (six months ago) link
That box is cool but I'd rather Drag City or whoever just keep Perfect Sound Forever in print on its own.
― city worker, Thursday, 14 March 2024 11:44 (six months ago) link
Absolutely this. Feel like Sonic Youth starting to release physical editions of old archival shows has been successful, I'm sure they'd sell tons!
And I get why they'd release this box, there are plenty who will snap this up and they'll get paid, but... I can't imagine any Pavement thing I'd want less.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 March 2024 13:46 (six months ago) link
<q>Do people who buy these things know about Spotify? It's much cheaper
― H.P, Wednesday, March 13, 2024 11:17 PM</q>
this is certainly one way to look at the music you love
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:23 (six months ago) link
god dammit
Never heard of the Black Out 7”.
This was a limited release available with pre-orders of the expanded WZ in 2006.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 14 March 2024 15:49 (six months ago) link
New 7" records typically cost between $7-$15, so considering that this set is 17 records, the price isn't really outrageous by current standards.I've got a few of the originals between Summer Babe and Pacific Trim, and probably own just about everything else between Westing and the deluxe cds.The set does look pretty cool, graphics/packaging-wise, so I might do it.
― Mike Dixn, Thursday, 14 March 2024 21:56 (six months ago) link
You got what you deserved there alpine(This boxset does look vry cool and would be nice to have)
― H.P, Thursday, 14 March 2024 22:11 (six months ago) link
when i interviewed Spiral last year, this is what he said about future archival stuff:
Spiral Stairs: We did a big deal with Matador a few years ago to do the catalog worldwide, so we came up with a few ideas. The movie thing was one of them, reissuing Terror Twilight and Westing was another. We’re probably gonna do like a singles box. And I really want to do a proper box set. We’ve got a lot of live stuff that we’ve recorded over the years that we’ve never done anything with and there’s some very early stuff that I’ve unearthed. There’s really cool archival stuff that people would probably be interested in. Having it all in one nice box set would be great. The older I get, these box sets are all I buy now. [Laughs].
― tylerw, Thursday, 14 March 2024 22:19 (six months ago) link
true enough, HP.
good info, tylerw. sounds about like i imagined. i suspect Spiral wants to flush out the archives and pay his mortgage, and SM wants little to do with it but isn't going to stand in the way. no surprise the relationship with Matador changed a bit ... someone has to push them to keep the faucet dripping.
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 March 2024 23:36 (six months ago) link
Oh cool, the box set is streaming(!)
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:59 (six months ago) link
...but there's nothing new on these?
I thought it was just the Westing comp and the album reissue b-sides* repackaged in their original form...?
*(which were already all available on streaming)
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:53 (six months ago) link
correct, nothing new.
although i will say it is kind of nice to have this stuff separated from the proper albums. reminds me of my 2CD homemade compilation of their b-sides that i made in, like, 1998ish - "Four Channel Destiny"
granted, this is soemthing you can easily do with streaming playlists, but i don't make playlists.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:03 (six months ago) link
I think those alt versions of "Black Out" "Extradition" weren't streaming before(?)
But otherwise, yeah, I agree with alpine static – while you could recreate the track list, I still think it's cool that they made it available as a standalone thing.
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:12 (six months ago) link
Huh – the alt "Black Out" has "Gonna haunt you down, haunt you down..." lyrics
"Extradition" sounds pretty close to the album track
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:14 (six months ago) link
Also, I guess you still need to dial up the Westing... comp to hear the "Perfect Sound Forever" tracks (so Drag City Incorporated get their $0.0000002)
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:17 (six months ago) link
...and ftr, that's exactly what I'm doing now. I've never known most of these songs by title, but damn... "Internal K-Dart" and "Perfect Depth" are such anthems. After hearing those, you kinda have to play the final EP, and close out the trilogy.
― let’s get intertwined (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:50 (six months ago) link
Pavement have finally gone Gold:https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2024-05-21/pavement-steven-malkmus-a-new-gold-record-tik-tok-harness-your-hopes
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 00:25 (four months ago) link
On May 16, the song (Harness Your Hopes) hit the RIAA’s classification for Gold status, meaning it hit the sales equivalent for 500,000 units across platforms. Malkmus was just as confused as the public by the song’s ascent — “I heard it was on a playlist or something,” he told Stereogum. “I’m not an expert on Spotify but, you know, one of those ‘Monday Moods’ or whatever the f— they do.”
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 00:28 (four months ago) link
lol SM
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 00:49 (four months ago) link
“Im pushing 60 i dont care”
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:48 (four months ago) link
Pretty wild that this is Pavement's top 10 on Spotify:
1. Harness Your Hopes 148M2. Cut Your Hair 42M3. Range Life 32M4. Gold Soundz 27M5. Spit on a Stranger 16M6. Stereo 11.9M7. Zurich Is Stained 11.3M8. Shady Lane 10.8M9. Grounded 10.1M10. Father to a Sister of Thought 9.2M
― jaymc, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:15 (four months ago) link
Zurich is Stained 11.3M is the actual title
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:41 (four months ago) link
40M daggers
― Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:54 (four months ago) link
Here's the long version of how this song has exploded and a great read. Glenn McDonald is a hero too.
https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 05:19 (four months ago) link
How cleanly the top 10 divides into tiers: S = "Harness Your Hopes", A = the three big radio-friendly songs from Crooked Rain, B = a career spanning selection of wistful tunez (+weird outlier "Stereo")
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:21 (four months ago) link
Stereo is an iconic Pavement song not a weird outlier
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:33 (four months ago) link
Yeah always felt that was a breakthrough single of sorts
― a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:50 (four months ago) link
What about the voice of Geddy Lee etc
an esteemed ilxor even took their name from it!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:11 (four months ago) link
yeah, Stereo was a single at their commercial (until recently) peak, no?
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:15 (four months ago) link
that's enough fact checkin for now
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:16 (four months ago) link
Why is Zurich Is Stained up there now. This makes no obvious sense
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:16 (four months ago) link