Haruomi Hosono

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Hosono's post-YMO '80s are absolutely insane... SFX and the Apogee & Perigee record from '84 rule, and I'm just now realizing that the Making of Non-Standard Music EP is top-notch too, a preview of what's to come with Monad (at least, on the B-side). The Monad records -- I can't even comprehend... Nokto is beyond beautiful, most of us know that already, so let me emphasize how generously Paradise View starts rewarding close, careful listens. Sounded samey and hard-to-fathom on first several listens, but just give it time. The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets. Sex, Energy and Star from '86 is more of a production job than a Hosono solo album, but it's fantastic all the same: it's very much the spirit of SFX carried forward into still more sublime realms of the insane. I had no idea digital drums could sound so good, so massive. Hosono did always know how to choose his collaborators. Echo de Miharu is a wonderfully nuts crossover between Koshi's chanson leanings and Hosono's deep ambient stuff. The Tale of Genji blows me away every time I listen, now -- the melodies are so slow and patient it can be hard to tell they're there. But they are, ohhh how they are. 1988 has the Marginal soundtrack which I'm still pretty new to (up on YT! It isn't all Hosono, but the other guy's tracks are great too). And then you get 1989 and Omni fuckin Sight Seeing. Comments on this thread got me pretty hyped for Omni and it *still* managed to exceed expectations. I haven't even got to the 20th Century Pops stuff from these years, there's probably a bunch of incredible stuff tucked away in there too...

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:36 (two months ago) link

at one point a bunch of those were going to get reissued! look:

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:50 (two months ago) link

oops, I Jimmed it. this is what i meant to post:

https://lightintheattic.net/products/mercuric-dance

https://lightintheattic.net/products/the-endless-talking

and so on. I think just the Monad records though.

luckily I have a copy of Coincidental Music. the others I really want. there were times when I thought I might win one from eBay at a not terrible price, alas they always get sniped at the last second.

The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets

it's genuinely bizarre. part of the reason I want a reissue is because sometimes they come with interviews and I'd really like to know what he was thinking with some of this. amusingly there are so many vaporwave artists who go for this unplaceable nightmare vibe using just synths and samplers but somehow Haruomi Hosono is the one who captured it better than any of them. probably before any of them were born too.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link

yes, i too would love reissues of the Monad releaes for notes / insights into what he was thinking when making them. i was lucky to pick up the originals when they were still affordable but would happily replace them with reissues.

The Tale of Genji is my favourite.

Apogee & Perigee isn't a Hosono release is it? I thought it was Jun Togawa, though my favourite track, Hope is by the mighty Testpattern.

stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (two months ago) link

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stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (two months ago) link

There's two Hosono compositions on Apogee & Perigee (both sung by Jun), I don't know whether he actually plays on anything -- but surely the arrangements are 90% his own? And it must have been him picking the people involved. Who else do Jun Togawa, Miharu Koshi, and Takashi Matsumoto have in common? (Hosono as puppetmaster!)

The lack of context is bewildering, yes, and sometimes I get really curious... but other times, it can feel liberating too. When music so amazing seems to rise up out of absolutely nowhere, it makes me feel like anything is possible.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link

I'll have to give that one another listen - I do think HH's production style is pretty easy to identify. when "Scandal Night" came up on Pacific Breeze 3 I could instantly tell there was Hosono involvement despite not actually knowing what the track was

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (two months ago) link

Coincidental Music is a huge favorite too. I'm not sure any other Hosono record has quite so many catchy things in one place. And even though everything on there was commissioned, and spans four years, I find it goes down real smooth as a start-to-finish listen. I guess when your creative spirit is burning as bright as Hosono's was at the time, it doesn't matter what you're doing stylistically, everything you do will sound of a piece.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (two months ago) link

God that's weird, I could've sworn I saw the production credit for Apogee & Perigee go to Hosono, but now that I actually look it up again, I'm wrong, it's Kazusuke Obi (who was apparently involved with EVERYTHING YMO-family from BGM on to Wild and Moody... after which he crossed over into the VGM world and was involved with, for example, the soundtrack to Super Marip Brothers 3?! Who is this guy?!

Apogee & Perigee seems to be shrouded in even more mystery than most YMO-adjacent stuff. Discogs notes that the releases had no songwriting credits until some many-decades-later reissue identified *some* of them. So it could still be that Hosono did arrangements for everything but Queen Glacier. It sounds to me exactly like a sister record to Parallelisme, just poppier.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:38 (two months ago) link

Oh yeah, there it is!

https://galapagos-rec0rds.com/products/apogee-perigee-アポジー-ペリジー-超時空コロダスタン旅行記?variant=33050887553127

Other Japanese-language sites/blogs credit Hosono as producer too, and mention he drafted the storyline.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:53 (two months ago) link

I don't think that link came out right. Here's the English-language blurb on that site:

"Nikka Whisky's commercial project by YEN all-star lineup including Yuji Miyake, Test Pattern, Yoichiro Yoshikawa, Miharu Koshi, Jun Togawa, under Haruomi Hosono's production. A gorgeous techno-pop album consisting of an A-side incorporated into a story that goes to the moon. It is a total conceptual album including inserts."

And "細野晴臣 プロデュース" comes up a lot. Seems only Discogs has Obi credited with the production.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:55 (two months ago) link

‘Translation changes the original meaning’: how 70s psych rockers Happy End ended the ‘Japanese rock controversy’

In 1969, Takasshi Matsumoto and Haruomi Hosono opted to defy rock trends by singing in Japanese, not English – paving the way for ‘city pop’ and J-pop

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link

Thanks! Great detail about Hosono jotting down new band names on his commute. Somewhere I read/watched Hosono say that breaking up bands is a hobby of his.

And: "...and at 76 he continues to create, saying he’s hoping to start work on a new solo collection soon." Good news, but hasn't he been saying he's about to start work on a new solo collection for years now? Hosono, you magical old man, write us some new songs dammit!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:33 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Man, I'm seriously digging Eating Pleasure, the 1980 Sandii (and Makoto Kubota) record produced by Hosono. It's got five Hosono originals and a version of Drip Dry Eyes that predates Neuromantic. On first however many listens it sounded like there was too much bland of-the-era pop between the summits of Hosono's Idol Era and Zoot Kook. I am here to tell you this is NOT TRUE. They wove the atmosphere real thick on this one. A much weirder and vibey-er record than it pretends to be!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:57 (one month ago) link

It's one of those sneaky actually-it's-YMO albums, with YT on drums and Sakamoto credited with keyboards, Matsutake on computer...

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:06 (one month ago) link

that Drip Dry Eyes is so smooth. I didn't realize it predated Takahashi's own.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:10 (one month ago) link

surprised it hasn't been repressed yet. admittedly I haven't heard the whole thing but I will have to rectify that soon.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:25 (one month ago) link

Its a real favourite of mine. I managed to pick up a cheap copy of the 2nd edition in Tokyo about 10 years ago.

mmmm, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:48 (one month ago) link

okay I've got it on now, definitely wilder than I was expecting. "Alive" is such a cool song

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:22 (one month ago) link

Artists with similar names that you get mixed up

Sandii & the Sunsetz
Sheena & the Rokkets

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:48 (one month ago) link

so good. 'zoot kook' still sounds like it was beamed in from the future.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:25 (one month ago) link

Zoot Kook feels like it launched a whole genre -- Yoko Kanno did a lot more good work within it in the '00s (and specifically sought out Chris Mosdell to help). Alive is wonderful.

mmmm, that's awesome -- not the greatest cover art, but I'm all for great albums in unassuming sleeves.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link

the thing about the cover art is it just looks like all those 50s and 60 exotica albums with a hot girl on the sleeve. its not like say the Miharu Koshi albums which hint at the oddness of the music. wonder how many people bought it for that reason, put it on and were like what the hell am I listening to.

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:05 (one month ago) link

zoot kook: song of the week

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:53 (one month ago) link

i haven't heard Yoko Kanno - will be checking that out today i hope

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:54 (one month ago) link

damn, there's too much music. artists should only release one album, preferably just one song

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link

apparently this is getting a reissue? never heard of this, apparently it's just a demo album but with songs written by a bunch of familiar names. Hosono produced it, apparently there are just a couple test pressings out there (one of which sold for 2 grand!)

https://www.discogs.com/release/9974042-Linda-Carriere-Haruomi-Hosono-Produced-%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3-%E8%A3%BD%E4%BD%9C-%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB

some of the tracks are available on YouTube, but not the Hosono-penned ones (unless I just can't find it). here's one...sounds great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMSAfGPdbM

frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:08 (one month ago) link

oh, that's funny that this is getting a reissue. I listened to some of the stuff on YT a while ago and thought, "pretty cool, guess I'll never hear it all tho." guess again!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:37 (one month ago) link

1977! That's the year of Our Connection, isn't it? -- for me, one of the peaks of Hosono's songwriting discography. I had no idea he'd done another five songs for someone else that year.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:58 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIyZn2UbU4I

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:31 (one month ago) link

popped up in my feed - not sure exactly what it is but John Carroll Kirby is involved

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:33 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

The World Standard record that Harry produced in 1985 is melodic bliss. Tonally it reminds me of Memphis, Milano but with the landscape covered in snow. At first everything just sounds like the same bright, major-chord, new-agey song. Then I find myself blissing out to some riff that only appears right before a fade-out. Or I notice the crazy celestial section in the back half of the opener. Or I realize that there is a long, sad, dramatic song (like an ambient Mass!) tucked away towards the end of the album. There's even a sermon in Esperanto! And this came out in 1985, the height of Hosono's Monad period.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

and it's recently been reissued! pricey though. I kinda forgot about it until now, I love Hosono lending his weird touch to other musicians like this, you can tell his production style right off the bat. track #8 pops into my head a lot, its like one of those upbeat Penguin Cafe Orchestra tunes that always lifts your mood up

Country Gazette is also worth a listen, I don't think Hosono is involved but the concept of it (ambient musician who's never been to America makes an instrumental country album based on 50's Americana) very much sounds like something he would do

frogbs, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

I was just reading about the other World Standard records today and, he was! Country Gazette is one of the three with Hosono production. He even put a new original song on it.

Are the Interior and Inoyama Land records this good?

It's one of the relentlessly fun things about the Hosono catalogue: every time I get wise to one of these epic production jobs, I think, "The hell! My idea of his body of work has been woefully insufficient!! And I call him my favorite artist?!"

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 24 May 2024 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

I really like both those Interior and Inoyama Land albums. They're up on YT if curious.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 May 2024 15:48 (two weeks ago) link

yeah both are great, as good as the World Standard album in my view. if you like those I'd also get the album re.sort by Sora - this time I know for a fact that Hosono wasn't involved, but it's exactly the sort of thing he would've produced in 2003 I think

here are, in my view, the best tracks from each:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cONpVBAv8E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRKd9-m1YM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqijOpJwhsY

frogbs, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:52 (two weeks ago) link

all those yen records box sets have lots of cool stuff in them, highly recommended

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LwA7I6Vs8M

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2024 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

i've got that on my phone, along with the six disc set of songs he wrote/produced for others, such an incredible amount of good shit in there, always fun when something you haven't heard yet comes up on shuffle

frogbs, Friday, 24 May 2024 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

BIG rec for inoyamaland if you're into that cluster/harmonia sound

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

yeah mr nununu might as well do yourself a favor now and get both those Harmonia albums, you're bound to stumble on them eventually

frogbs, Friday, 24 May 2024 18:33 (two weeks ago) link

I love the Cluster & Eno record -- I gather the Harmonia stuff is along those lines? Will look into that soon. (Incidentally, I was reading a recent Inoyama Land interview and one of the guys says Cluster & Eno is his favorite album of all time.) (And another by the way, I appreciate all the Kraftwerk suggestions above. Got three songs lined up to hear when the time is right.) (Also ripped all four YT videos above and slotted them onto my almost-broken walkman, so those'll get heard real soon.) (A Japanese comment on the Hosono song: "If you're from abroad and listening to this... you're some enthusiast!")

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 26 May 2024 14:12 (two weeks ago) link

its better

frogbs, Sunday, 26 May 2024 16:45 (two weeks ago) link


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