why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

"records that are accidentally sui generis, for better or worse" RFD

Haven’t heard this tomato version that is lately spoken of

And I probably won’t, there’s been too much “yes” irl recently

I've only ever had the remaster and I never really noticed a problem with its sound.

When I ask myself,
“how much yes is too much yes?”
I see that boxed set and think
“that’s too much yes.”

But if you love YES this boxset is not nearly enough. Seriously, though, it's a great listen.

goldilocks option: thus entire box set except cut out all the wakeman solo spots = JUST RIGHT

the dolby issue: according to brian kehew (an actual genius) eddie offord recorded the original tormato sessions in dolby-A, they fired him and overdubbed the rest not in dolby-A cuz they are dumb. when brian went the tapes later on he knew eddie liked to record in dolby A and went to playback the tapes and they sounded WAY BETTER except for the over dubs which still sounded like shit. so there's no saving the sessions.

huh, maybe that explains it, I always thought Tormato sounded weird but could never articulate why. I knew Wakeman's Birotron had something to do with it (is this the only album that actually uses it?) but like what I got a vinyl copy and played it on a good system I remember thinking I needed a new stylus because something was just off about it. it's got such a narrow soundstage, everything is kind of in a line...when Wakeman is playing you can't really hear anything else, ditto for a lot of Anderson's vocals, while Howe and White just kinda languish in the background surrounded by pillows. I can't really remember a single Howe guitar line on the album, outside of the more straightforward rock n' roll ones.

but also the songs aren't quite as good as they were, I mean yeah it's kinda interesting to hear them try disco and power pop but it's not really their strong suit, also they don't really have any of the cool jam sections that Yes excelled at. they come close sometimes but you can tell "no epics" was sort of their M.O. here. it does have some tracks I like though - the opening and closing track are both great, and I'll defend "Arriving UFO" just on the grounds that its really odd, I just wish they had the courage to get even weirder with it

there's a demo of the Birotron here, if you're interested. apparently Wakeman financed the development of it and there were only ever 2 working units.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URR7l-uI6JA

I recommend reading the description, its pretty insane:

Life is short. The Birotron is in danger of disappearing and both positive vibes and hard work are now required to save it. 'Trolls' harassing anyone, 'internet beggars' demanding free sounds, 'sound poachers/criminals' sampling this video to exploit it, and pushers of any political agendas will be:
a) Permanently banned from this page / other related Birotron pages.
b) Permanently blacklisted from buying, owning or using these sounds if and when they become available commercially.
c) Prosecuted for any crimes or offenses committed in relation to the above. (This page is being monitored by a Private Investigation Agency 24/7)
Protecting this instrument, and all of you visiting here deeply matters to us, especially when this is your only source for it.

I think it's cool people are trying to 'restore' the sound of the thing, but it kinda sounds shitty doesn't it? my understanding with the mellotron is the machine itself is pretty faulty and doesn't really reproduce the sound of the tapes well but it distorts it in a way that gives it this ethereal and mystical quality. that's a pretty tricky thing to reproduce. the Birotron just sounds cheap to me.

leon theremin meet robert moog meet dave biro (actual name)

The version of "Days" on Tormato bonus tracks is really lovely, I prefer it to the version that ended up on Song Of Seven, it's just vocals and works really well

I could not take it oh so seriously really
When you called and said you'd seen a UFO

- noted skeptic and debunker Jon Anderson

Don't know Borstlap but nice to have these collections
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/bruford-borstlap-sheer-reckless-abandon-3cd1dvd-edition
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/patrick-moraz-bill-bruford-temples-of-joy-3cd-edition

https://shop.spotify.com/en/artist/7AC976RDJzL2asmZuz7qil/product/yes-incense

Along with several other Ilxors, I was born during the brief period known as the Gerald Ford era, meaning that nearly all of my memories of that decade are of the "Long '70s" variety that ran through '83 (wood-panel basements and weird swirly lights as room decor, leaded gas, classic rock's last stand on MTV before the Prince/Lauper/MJ era, malls with massive plants near the Miller's Outpost, you get the idea). Tormato, especially "On The Silent Wings of Freedom" (which might be the most 'Yes' song title ever), makes me 'remember' the late-70s, as if they are teleporting me to an era where I get to experience borrowed nostalgia, whether I actually experienced it or not.

Joni Mitchell played the Birotron on one of her best late songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOfJ7S9f2LM

That's a misnomer - the actual credit on Night Ride Home is "Billatron", which is a keyboard sample of the guitarist Bill Dillon.

The bonus tracks on Tormato show that they still had a lot of ideas, but no-one was capitulating to fit those ideas together. Anderson wants to get soft, Howe wants to get hard, Bootsy Squire's Mutron pedal whose sound doesn't fit in with what anyone else is doing, and Wakeman's assortment of shrill keyboards covering everything like a tinsel explosion. I like most of the record in spite of its flaws.

Waksman’s baroque solo on the Birotron on Don’t Kill the Whale rules so hard.

lmao what is this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9FZncV3JKQ

oh my god, cover art of the year

https://talkshop.live/product/ns2KJur9I7WN/jon-anderson-true-cd-autographed

Go Jon

someone made an entire AI-generated Yes album (not my dropbox, but it was pulled off YouTube)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/tkmxohq87hrfrtagwi8au/AKw0cOzBz6eZk9FsVEBPTsQ?dl=0&e=1&preview=To+The+Future++-+Yes.mp4&rlkey=7x83koqr5pobqvdxo2ahufkgm

it does sound incredibly shitty but I find it kinda impressive anyway. maybe there was a ton of specific prompting but it's neat how many individual pieces of their sound it gets right. on the other hand it really sucks, there's not a single memorable part here, and it kind of makes me feel like I'm going crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahKn84JaGiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4R5k8l6KOw

that's really good! better than anything out of this current Yes incarnation

can one of you please find the post where an ilxor saw Anderson at a gear show and watched him burst into song? anyone remember that? I can paraphrase more if needed

whoa! those songs sound really promising -- best YES since fly from here and jon music since the ladder?

There was another song played but it was a kinda limp sounding ballad, maybe it'll be better on the rekkid

"you don't understand, I want to make the microphone SIIIIIIIIIIINNNNGGG" was the gist of the post, as "some elfin-looking guy" interrogated a microphone salesperson

yeah hoping the whole album is like those two songs - what I really wanted is for the Band Geeks to be involved, because Jon on his own is fine but when he pairs up with talented prog dudes it's already great. even Roine Stolt (who I'm generally not a huge fan of) made a pretty great LP with him.

That Roine Stolt record (Invention of Knowledge, from 2016) is great, but I've been afraid to check out anything else he's been involved with.

Kaipa is not all golden but totally worth diving into if you have time to kill, especially the original '70s run. let's say Flower Kings though depends on how much patience you have for the vocals on Allan Holdsworth solo albums. Transatlantic is even more so about tolerance for Neal Morse's prog/pop-punk nasal vocals

every Flower Kings record has like 2-5 minutes of stuff I really like but overall they're just boring. maybe one day they'll click with me. I feel like you can only really have room for one weirdly-prolific prog revival band in your life. for me it used to be Glass Hammer but now it's The Tangent.

all of that stuff glass hammer, tangent, transatlantic, flower kings, is so incredibly dull and boring to me. I just can't listen to any of it. Or I can, it just makes zero impression when it's over.

I liked The Tangent's In Earnest but that's the only song of theirs that's stuck with me

that's def true of the latter two in my view

Glass Hammer are so over the top sometimes that I can't help but dig them, also I think the Jon Davison albums really do sound like something Yes could've cranked out post-GFTO. those aren't necessarily my favorite though. I haven't really liked their recent ones though. also hard to deal with overtly religious bands these days

The Tangent definitely have their dull spots and every album they do is way too long but they always grow on me. if nothing else Andy Tillison is probably the one prog dude who should be allowed to write political lyrics.

can one of you please find the post where an ilxor saw Anderson at a gear show and watched him burst into song? anyone remember that? I can paraphrase more if needed

― I painted my teeth (sleeve)

Drew posted this:
here's [Wobbly's] story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

THANK YOU

This AI generated "Yes" album is pretty fun.

I take that back. It's awful sludge. Scary. too.

lol my exact reaction, after 2 or 3 minutes it started making me uncomfortable but I listened to the whole album anyway just to see if any part of it would stick with me. nothing really did except for that weird Sega Genesis style bass noise

I love Squire's weird clipped accent he sings in on the first section, I wonder what that was all about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUI1GHuT1jk

she would coil her said amazement asking only interest could be laid upon the children of her domain

Do Yesheads rate "City of Love" from the 90125 album? I'm quite into that tune lately

Love that one, my 90125 shame is behind me nowadays

I liked that one back in the day. I don't think I've heard it in 25 years.

no woman, don't cry

we'll be waiting for the night
we'll be waiting for the night to come

hell yeah Jon!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-kFz5ibGA