https://i.imgur.com/e70QNTR.jpeg3. Pretty Hate MachineHalo 2, released 1989222 points, 17 voters, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 14:59 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/jP9LpD0.jpeg2. The FragileHalo 14, released 1999230 points, 15 voters, 4 #1 votes
https://i.imgur.com/U6t1JZI.jpeg1. The Downward SpiralHalo 8, released 1994306 points, 17 voters, 7 #1 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:24 (five months ago) link
not really a surprise to have the downward spiral so far ahead of everything else
I’m really happy Further Down The Spiral is getting so much love in this poll
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:49 (five months ago) link
(I wouldn’t have imagine Fragile at #2 - wow!)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:50 (five months ago) link
i didn't expect it either, but the total points was close. the #1 vote difference is what put Fragile ahead.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (five months ago) link
I guess I can understand being the only #1 for Pretty Hate Machine. It's not without its flaws, but I do think it's the most charming NIN album with the most memorable highs.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:54 (five months ago) link
Every time I play PHM I’m somehow surprised anew at how gripping it is.
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 15:56 (five months ago) link
I wasn't sure which I was going to put first - I hadn't listened to either in a decade or more. phm may (arguably) have the 'best' (catchiest, most melodic. whatever) songs but the arrangement/production/sound palette on tds is in an absolute league of its own.
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link
It was hard to work out where to rank PHM, it's probably the NIN release I've played the most in my life because I bought it (on tape) at a point when I only owned a handful of albums but I think it's been surpassed many times over (I had it at #8 in the end I think). Hesitation Marks kept creeping up my ballot, glad to see it so high.
I prefer the international Further Down the Spiral although I realised my favourite tracks are mostly the ones that appear on both versions.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:28 (five months ago) link
MAYBE I'M ALL MESSED UP
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 16:30 (five months ago) link
Really happy to see the Fennesz remix of In This Twilight top the remix poll. It's truly a marvel and one of the best things musically that Trent's been involved with imho.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:38 (five months ago) link
Surprised The Fragile: Deviations 1 and Ghosts didn't place on the releases poll! Excited for the tracks now.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:39 (five months ago) link
do people want top 60 tracks or top 50? i can do either but only have images for top 50
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 21:59 (five months ago) link
i'll try to get through these quickly
60. In This TwilightReleased on Year Zero, 200788 points, 5 votersStudio versionLive 2008
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:12 (five months ago) link
59. The Only TimeReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198996 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:22 (five months ago) link
58. Kinda I Want ToReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198998 points, 2 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:32 (five months ago) link
this one was a surprise to see, it always seemed like a lesser track on phm to me
57. Dead SoulsReleased on The Crow soundtrack, 1994102 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:41 (five months ago) link
i love Dead Souls so much
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:48 (five months ago) link
56. RunningReleased on Hesitation Marks, 2013106 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:54 (five months ago) link
53. This Isn't the PlaceReleased on Add Violence, 2017110 points, 5 votersStudio version
53. SuckReleased on Broken, 1992110 points, 6 votersStudio version
53. Less ThanReleased on Add Violence, 2017110 points, 6 votersStudio version/music video
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:04 (five months ago) link
51. Even DeeperReleased on The Fragile, 1999112 points, 3 votersStudio versionLive 2013
51. Leaving HopeReleased on Still, 2002112 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:14 (five months ago) link
i really recommend the live version of "even deeper" there
https://i.imgur.com/mRHVhiA.jpeg49. The Great DestroyerReleased on Year Zero, 2007116 points, 6 votersStudio versionLive 2007Live 2014
https://i.imgur.com/qi3irH7.jpeg49. Shit MirrorReleased on Bad Witch, 2018116 points, 3 votersStudio version
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:27 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/7KL0Xt6.jpeg48. SanctifiedReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989124 points, 4 votersStudio versionLive 2013
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:37 (five months ago) link
even deeper wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too low
― ivy., Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:46 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/lyRY0lC.jpeg47. The Hand That FeedsReleased on With Teeth, 2005134 points, 6 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2006Live 2008Live 2013
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:51 (five months ago) link
i really regret not managing to fit "even deeper" on my ballot after hearing that live version
i'm surprised "the hand that feeds" was this low, it's quite good at what it does really
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:52 (five months ago) link
Me too! Figured it for top 25 at least
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 23:57 (five months ago) link
same. expect WAAYYYYY higher
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:01 (five months ago) link
last one for now:
https://i.imgur.com/yDumcC4.jpeg46. I Do Not Want ThisReleased on The Downward Spiral, 1994136 points, 5 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:01 (five months ago) link
58. Kinda I Want ToReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 198998 points, 2 votersStudio version― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkthis one was a surprise to see, it always seemed like a lesser track on phm to me― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ufo, Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:32 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I had it at #3, which pushed it over the edge. During voting, I got kinda obsessed with a minor similarity to Genesis's Tonight Tonight Tonight. In retrospect, I might have had it a little high. :)
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:02 (five months ago) link
it didn't make my ballot, but this was one of my favs off PHM in my peak NIN fandom.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:04 (five months ago) link
I’m going to go ahead and predict “Only” in the top 20
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:06 (five months ago) link
I have a notion about that song that I’ll share as soon as we get to it
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:07 (five months ago) link
summary so far:
46. I Do Not Want This - 136 points, 5 voters47. The Hand That Feeds - 134 points, 6 voters48. Sanctified - 124 points, 4 voters49. The Great Destroyer - 116 points, 6 voters49. Shit Mirror - 116 points, 3 voters51. Even Deeper - 112 points, 3 voters51. Leaving Hope - 112 points, 4 voters53. This Isn't the Place - 110 points, 5 voters53. Suck - 110 points, 6 voters53. Less Than - 110 points, 6 voters56. Running - 106 points, 3 voters57. Dead Souls - 102 points, 3 voters58. Kinda I Want To - 98 points, 2 voters59. The Only Time - 96 points, 3 voters60. In This Twilight - 88 points, 5 voters
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:07 (five months ago) link
and full albums results:
1. The Downward Spiral - 306 points, 17 voters, 7 #1 votes2. The Fragile - 230 points, 15 voters, 4 #1 votes3. Pretty Hate Machine - 222 points, 17 voters, 1 #1 vote4. Broken - 196 points, 15 voters, 1 #1 vote5. Hesitation Marks - 148 points, 13 voters6. Further Down the Spiral - 98 points, 9 voters, 2 #1 votes7. With Teeth - 96 points, 12 voters8. Still - 92 points, 8 voters9. Bad Witch - 76 points, 8 voters10. Add Violence - 72 points, 7 voters11. Fixed - 58 points, 5 voters, 2 #1 votes12. Not the Actual Events - 56 points, 7 voters13. Year Zero - 52 points, 6 voters14. Closer to God - 22 points, 2 voters15. March Of The Pigs - 16 points, 1 voter15. The Fragile: Deviations 1 - 16 points, 1 voter17. Ghosts V: Together - 14 points, 3 voters18. The Slip - 12 points, 2 voters19. Y34RZ3r0r3mix3d - 10 points, 2 voters19. Ghosts I-IV - 10 points, 2 voters21. Watchmen: Volume 1 (Music from the HBO Series) - 6 points, 1 voter21. Quake - 6 points, 1 voter23. Ghosts VI: Locusts - 4 points, 2 voters23. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (Original Soundtrack) - 4 points, 1 voter23. "The Perfect Drug" Versions - 4 points, 1 voter23. Broken (film) - 4 points, 1 voter27. Watchmen: Volume 3 (Music from the HBO Series) - 2 points, 1 voter27. Closure - 2 points, 1 voter, #1 votes27. The Vietnam War (Original Score) - 2 points, 1 voter, #1 votes
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 00:08 (five months ago) link
I voted for both “kinda I want to” and “the only time” - love how the back end of PHM basically gives up on the angst and just becomes about illicit sex.
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 April 2024 01:38 (five months ago) link
going to do 5 more now
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 10:33 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/P1iFwa2.jpeg45. RingfingerReleased on Pretty Hate Machine, 1989138 points, 4 voters, 1 #1 voteStudio version
https://i.imgur.com/Ev7nqP4.jpeg43. BurnReleased on Natural Born Killers soundtrack, 1994140 points, 5 votersStudio versionMusic videoLive 2009
https://i.imgur.com/ZMABIEK.jpeg43. Every Day Is Exactly The SameReleased on With Teeth, 2005140 points, 4 votersStudio version
― ufo, Thursday, 25 April 2024 10:55 (five months ago) link
actually need to leave it there
aaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MOTHERFUCKER!
Ringfinger was my #1! Unlike yesterday's entry from my list, Ringfinger is a decades-long, deeply held #1 NIN song for me. Verse one feels almost like a 60s or 70s soul song, like some Al Green or something. Verse two is, I admit, pretty stupid. Crap about Jesus on a cross that is not unlike the lyrics I tried to write in 7th grade. In revisiting Pretty Hate Machine, I found that to be the case with most of the songs on the album - moments of sublime beauty and transcendent emotion juxtaposed against "I can't believe I wrote that when I was 13" juvenalia. It doesn't matter to me - I'm fine with it and accept it
The intro does a lot to lure me in: the sparse 4/4 kick drum underneath the alternating synth and bass lines is so hypnotic, made doubly so by letting you sit through 8 repetitions of the riff lasting 30 seconds. I think a lot of artists would have probably just left it at 4. And then, pulling the same trick, the awesome, cathartic outro bassline lasts for almost 2 minutes!
Anyway, glad enough other people voted for it that it made it to the rollout.
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:24 (five months ago) link
I thought I voted for it but apparently not! It was very hard and somewhat arbitary to decide which to pick and which to leave, especially from phm. The intro is good and the outro is great but musically the verse isn't so strong. At least be thankful he rewrote the chorus lyrics from the demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROYVYVPqj34
(Literally the first time I've listened to that in 30 years, after hearing it coming out of someone's tent at a music festival in 1994)
― ledge, Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:33 (five months ago) link
I’m convinced that if “Less Than” had come out during the imperial period it would have been a huge hit.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Thursday, 25 April 2024 12:39 (five months ago) link
xp: yeah, I listened to the demo for the first time during this poll. Definitely glad he worked on it a little longer.
― peace, man, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:02 (five months ago) link
in the chorus of Ringfinger does anyone hear the sounds of someone tapping an incandescent light bulbs 3x repeatedly?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:16 (five months ago) link
Ringfinger remains one of my favorite tracks from PHM. Its production is singular. I have long been a bit of a lyrical apologist for that album, most of the songs on it exhibit some form of "juvenalia".
― octobeard, Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:49 (five months ago) link