Rolling Stones: Classic or Dud

some encores just wanna be played all night

I don't have that much time to jam

The thought of 80 year old Keith singing “her 80 year old tits and ass” is *vomits*

well, he has been married, by all accounts, happily since 1983, so congrats to him loving his wife like this.

Patti was so great in They All Laughed!

^On MAX now, for the curious.

Anita Pallenberg docu "Catching Fire" is really good for the anecdotes and old footage. We never really get a hold of what made her click, though. Seems the children in the 70s Stones' circle were the ones who really suffered.

Watching the DVD of their tour closing Leeds show from 1982, it's fun and amusing to watch. They sound great - I really wish I could've seen Keith like this, he's in top form - but the clothes are kind of ridiculous, in a way that seems partly intentional. First time you see Mick, his first name is in big letters on his red and white jacket with the puffed up sleeves. Wyman looks like they caught him in the middle of a jog and he was like, "oh, we go on NOW?" and then he just jogs directly to the stage and plays as is 'cause at this point it's just a job so whatever. Seeing Wood open the show with a cigarette in his mouth (where it will stay) is hilarious to me - like I've seen musicians quickly put one out or spit out their gum before kicking off a show, but no, not Wood.

I think this whole show is in broad daylight - when's the last time the Stones have done a show completely in the day? You'd think they'd be more inclined to do that now in their golden years.

^^^
Wyman joggin’

yeah the stage looks are so fun because they make so little sense

Bill just thinkin baout his next cup of tea
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lol

Mick is wearing white Capezios? with knee socks?
go off king

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“This bass looks easier to play…”

Seeing Wood open the show with a cigarette in his mouth (where it will stay) is hilarious to me - like I've seen musicians quickly put one out or spit out their gum before kicking off a show, but no, not Wood.

Have you seen the Some Girls '78 live show? He keeps dropping cigs every time he sings back up. He must have gone through a few packs that night.

Bill Wyman is simultaneously the least and most rock n’ roll figure the business has ever seen

“It’s one of those things that’s best left unexplained”

“The authorities said … just leave it alone”

xxpost explain the “most” part to me lol

The most part is detailed in his memoir Stone Alone. That, and things like him finding ancient Roman coins in his back yard and making a song called "Je Suis un Rockstar" which is the best of all solo Stones singles.

Wyman reminds me of Lurch or something

you rang

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Have you seen the Some Girls '78 live show? He keeps dropping cigs every time he sings back up. He must have gone through a few packs that night.

LOL, I forgot about that! (I have a copy of it) It's a bit late for this but I hope he's stopped smoking - it's pretty crazy that he got lung cancer, refused chemo because of his hair, and yet by the looks of everything is now in remission.

je suis un little teapot

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methinks he is the least essential member of the major brit rock acts of the 1960s: like, maybe he's at the level of Pete Quaife or Chris Dreja or Jim McCarty, or Keith Relf (I don't think Relf was very good)… it doesn't matter that he's on or not on any particular Stones record, or probly Keith Richards contributes better bass parts… but y'know who disagrees? Dylan said that they lost a step too many when he left after Steel Wheels… like, really, Bob? you think they sounded like sleepy John estes in 1990, and then Wyman left and they might as well have sounded like Dangerous Toys?

they sounded great last night! really -- tempos were good, support musicians including drums, bass, keys were more locked in than in recent years, mick sounded great, and that guitar "weave" is inimitable. when the big screen focused on keith's poor gnarled arthritic fingers it seemed a wonder he could do anything up there, but they make it work. and during the stage bows, when the support folks peel away to leave the three of them standing there, anyone not moved by that has no heart.

I can always tell when Wyman plays on those '70s records as opposed to Wood, Taylor, or Keef.

I think this whole show is in broad daylight - when's the last time the Stones have done a show completely in the day?

three weeks ago!

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-rolling-stones/2024/fair-grounds-race-course-new-orleans-la-babb9fe.html

“I was dreamin last nigbt / I was crying’ like a child”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyFg_iWZedM

It looks like Keith's playing the opening riff real hard - and after that it's a loop of what he just played because he's just miming after that as he softens up his strokes, even missing the beat occasionally. Am I seeing that right? He doesn't have any pedals by his feet so I guess someone's doing it offstage? (I'm not a guitarist so I have a very shaky familiarity with this.) Not complaining though, Keith's arthritis will only get worse and it probably makes sense to save his joints for a solo rather than wear them down from repeating the same figure over and over again. You see the same thing play out when the riff changes.

i think that's all live, bird.

It looks like Ron is playing the same riff? ie. covering where Keith looks like he's missing it.

Yeah, I was about to post what visiting saw, but when I went back to those spots, I think I was hearing really Ronnie off-camera playing those notes when Keith was sort of relaxing or softening up his strokes.

Like at 0:30, look how vigorous Keith plays on the downstroke - that's pretty much how I picture Keith all the time, but I'm not sure anyone with arthritis can really sustain that without getting a sore wrist. And just seconds later, like at 0:35 or 0:36, he's relaxes a lot more, to the point where he isn't dead on the beat like before. But then the camera eventually moves left and you see Ronnie's playing the same notes.

Great performance though, I'm glad they brought this song back. It was the highlight when I saw them in 2019 and it was one of the few numbers where the massive echo heard in the nosebleed section worked in its favor - it sounded like a ghost train out of hell with with Charlie's drums rumbling forward and Mick's harmonica wailing the whole way.

oh yeah no doubt he plays this song differently than the 60s/70s when he was chomping down on the rhythm all the time. back then there was a simpler division of labor. now they call it the "weave" where they're constantly and intuitively trading voices. keith's arthritis has taken away a lot of dexterity, and the larger ensemble does a lot of gap-filling, but at the same time there is something even more primal going on where they use rhythm and volume and timing. because of their age it sometimes doesn't *look* like they're doing it. gosh i just love this band.

i went both nights at metlife -- one of them (ironically the one with the much better seats) i made use of their "lucky dip" web option for fast-fingered fans who want to save some bucks and don't care where they wind up sitting. they pulled out a whole bunch of songs they hadn't played the previous night. some were tour "firsts." i never thought i'd hear "rambler" though. i thought it had gone the way of "brown sugar."

you can kind of tell from ron wood's expression at the end they're just as surprised they pulled it off as anyone else.